Talk:Ted Kulongoski

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Added more recent information about the 2006 Gubernatorial election, adding candidates Ron Saxton and Jim Hill. Rewrote sentences to flow a bit better with additional candidates. It could be necessary at some point to refigure the section, especially if more candidates are added. Davidpdx 11:52, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Contents 1 Tag 2 Conflict of Interest 3 April 30th edit by Humanbean 4 AIPAC 5 Ben Westlund 6 Deletion of term-end date

[edit] Tag

There is someone watching this article as well as the others that are associated with the Oregon Gubernatorial Race. Please be advised, if I see PR edits being made I will revert them. Davidpdx 08:53, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Conflict of Interest

I urge those who are part of a campaign not to edit on Wikipedia. This is a conflict of interest and against the NPOV guidelines of Wikipedia. Any POV edits will be reverted by myself or other editors. Davidpdx 21:31, March 21, 2006

[edit] April 30th edit by Humanbean

While I believe this edit was probably done to fix something, I believe this person may not understand the functional form of Wikipedia articles. Therefore, I reverted the changes back to before this particular edit. I urge you to read and study diffrent articles to better understand the structure. Davidpdx 18:49, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AIPAC

The section on AIPAC is an unimportant non-sequiter and should be deleted.--rtaycher1987 20:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree, given the fact he is only a governor. I'll remove it. Davidpdx 04:02, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be inserted. I have reworded to a neutral form. Connections to special interest groups should not be hidden or concealed. --shirbil 04:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I disagree that the fact that Kulongoski is currently "only a governor" makes his position on national or international issues unimportant. After all, most recent Presidents were governors and governors obviously have an important influence on their state parties. Lobby groups attempt to influence governors on national and international issues for obvious reasons and all of this activity should be part of their public record. Peteskitoo 05:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

I can live with it in there, but I will insist on a reference be added in terms of the both of the quotes. If this is done, I'll go along with it. However, if the references aren't added they should be removed.Also I'd recommend being specific on which Palastinan groups are being critical. I would venture a guess that there are many Palastinan groups.Davidpdx 11:12, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

The original references to Kulongoski's speeches were restored and an Oregon human rights group (AUPHR) was specified. Peteskitoo 14:43, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that's better. Now readers can at least understand the meaning behind the quotes. I can't believe he'd say such a thing. It seems pretty careless in my opinion. Davidpdx 01:12, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ben Westlund

The sentence on Ben Westlund needs to be edited or removed.

[edit] Deletion of term-end date

OMG, I'm raising my first objection. Thank goodness it's not one I feel passionately about, so here I go...

As a political activist, I find the listing of the full term to which an office holder has been elected to be useful information. The ending date was removed from a field clearly labelled "Term of Office," and indeed, the Governor was elected to a six year term with a specific ending date. It should be obvious that death in office, or resignation could result in his not serving that full term, but that does not in any way change the fact that it is the term.

This is obviously not the same as death dates, which are indeterminate. So, an inconsistency between the two styles should be irrelevant.

Since I'm an Oregonian, I happen to know that Oregon Governors have a four year term of office. I don't know whether that's universal, so it might be handy for others to have an "at a glance" view which includes end of term. I notice that some reference materials put such future dates in parentheses, presumably so that the reader will know that the author is not so stupid as to think that a future date has already happened.

And speaking of stupid, even though I know that U.S. Senators, for example, serve six year terms, it sometimes takes me a while to puzzle out when a particular rascal is going to be up for reelection. Math was never my strong suit. And sometimes the beginning date is from an off-year special election, utterly confusing me.

Bottom line... I'd like to see term ending dates included in the infoboxes of incumbent politicians. It makes the infobox more useful for me, and I think probably for others. However, I don't care so much about it that I am willing to get into a pie throwing contest over it... so, I'll just back away now slowly, if y'all don't mind. J-MJgilhousen 06:36, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree. I think it should be left in. --Liface 08:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)