User talk:Tdempsey

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Contents 1 Gilbert Baker 2 Cat:Gay Wikipedians 3 LGBT-activist-stub 4 Categorizing 5 You helped choose {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} as this week's WP:AID winner 6 Category

[edit] Gilbert Baker

Hi there. I just came across your Gilbert Baker page, and I noticed that the content for it came almost directly from http://www.keywestcityofcolors.com/press/press_Gilbert.html. I looked around the site and couldn't find any information regarding it, but this might constitute a copyright violation. Instead of sending it to Wikipedia: Copyright problems where copyright violations go to die, I thought I'd appeal to you first to see if you wanted to fix it up and make it a bit more original. Let me know here or on the article talk page where I've copied this same comment. This is somebody I've never heard of, but I'd be interested in helping if you wanted. But I'll wait to hear from you. NymphadoraTonks 29 June 2005 04:36 (UTC)

Still not sure if this needs changing? tdempsey 03:03, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cat:Gay Wikipedians

I just recently formed Cat:Gay Wikipedians; before that I was put in Cat:LGBT Wikipedians after it was decided to eliminate the original Cat:Queer Wikipedians (which someone else started up again). I started the new category because I'm gay, not "LGBT". I'm hoping other gay Wikipedians will join the category in the future. --Angr (t·c) 05:15, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Why? Why do we all have to belong to the same category? I have nothing in common with transsexuals and little in common with lesbians and bisexuals. It's like grouping Cat:Buddhist Wikipedians, Cat:Hindu Wikipedians, Cat:Jewish Wikipedians, Cat:Muslim Wikipedians, etc. into Cat:Non-Christian Wikipedians. --Angr (t·c) 06:02, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

Good point - and I don't want a pissing match. I can agree to a Cat:Gay Wikipedians as a sub-category to Cat:LGBT Wikipedians and would hope you use both tags. I'm not for being so separate since there is much overlap in all the communities. Of course, there is specific information to communities, too.

But to have one person in a category? I would be interested in seeing how many people use it.

tdempsey 16:28, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

The point of subcategories is to be included only in the hierarchically lowest appropriate one. Ideally, IMO, Category:LGBT Wikipedians would have hardly any user pages in it at all, just four subcategories Category:Lesbian Wikipedians, Category:Gay Wikipedians, Category:Bisexual Wikipedians, and Category:Transsexual and transgendered Wikipedians (or the like). Anyone in the upper category would be there because they couldn't decide which lower cat they wanted to be in, or didn't like to say. As for being the only one in it, keep in mind, Category:Gay Wikipedians is only six days old, it takes time before people notice new categories and decide to add themselves to them. When I added Category:Anglican and Episcopalian Wikipedians in September I was the only one in it for almost four weeks; now it has twelve people. --Angr (t·c) 19:23, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I think you are missing the point. The purpose of Category:LGBT Wikipedians is to list people working on Category:LGBT and its sub-categories - the standard agreed upon on this website. I am a gay man and would not join Category:Gay Wikipedians since it is not descriptive or inclusive for our purposes. -- tdempsey 23:51, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't think that's the point of Category:LGBT Wikipedians at all. I think it's just a way for Wikipedians who consider themselves lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transsexual to identify themselves as such; it's no different from the categories of Wikipedians by location, religion, politics, profession, or any of the other subcategories of Category:Wikipedians. I'm not working on Category:LGBT or its subcategories, nor am I listed at Wikipedia:LGBT notice board#Active Wikipedians interested in LGBT issues. I'm just a gay Wikipedian. --Angr (t·c) 10:23, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] LGBT-activist-stub

I just noticed that you added both LGBT-stub and activist-stub to the Joe Solmonese article yesterday and I wished to make you aware that there is a recently created stub {{LGBT-activist-stub}} for activists who specialise in this one area of activism. Caerwine Caerwhine 04:06, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks! I recently asked a question about this and you cleared it up. - tdempsey 04:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categorizing

Hi there...just a couple of comments about some recent categorization you've done:

1. Wikipedia actually has a pretty explicit rule against filing articles in categories and subcategories of the first category at the same time; what this means is that if an article is already filed in Category:LGBT media or Category:Transgender and transsexual people, then it can't also be filed in the general Category:LGBT.
2. Pipetext after the category name is actually a filing scheme; you should only use a pipe followed by a space when you're applying the category to the absolute topmost defines-what-the-category-is article. So for Category:LGBT, the only article that should have [[:Category:LGBT| ]] on it is LGBT itself. Everything else should have either the category name with no pipetext at all if the appropriate filing letter is the first letter of the article title, or pipetext that defines how the article should be sorted alphabetically (e.g. [[:Category:Transgender and transsexual people|Araujo, Gwen]] or [[:Category:LGBT media|Body Politic, The]]) if the appropriate filing letter isn't the first letter of the article title.

Hope that helps a bit... Bearcat 02:14, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Bearcat!

I appreciate the tip. I am trying to get much more involved with Wikipedia and the LGBT category - and I was trying to figure out some of the finer points of categorizing. Let me know how I can be better in this area.

tdempsey 20:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] You helped choose {{subst:IDRIVEtopic article}} as this week's WP:AID winner

[edit] Category

Hello, I think you have put your User page into the wrong category. Your in the category for Wikipedians from Georgia, the country in Eastern Europe. If you are in fact from Georgia the US state, you need to move yourself to Category:Wikipedians in Georgia, USA. Thank you. Philip Stevens 19:59, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Fixed - thanks! tdempsey 06:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)