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This is an archive page. Please do not edit this page. Leave new messages on my current talk page. My archives: October 2005 | November 2005 | December 2005 | January 2006 | February 2006 | March 2006 | April 2006 | May 2006 | June 2006 | July 2006 | August 2006 | September 2006 | October 2006 | November 2006 | December 2006 (current)

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Contents 1 New user box 2 User:Kate 3 Feel Free To Copy It! 4 = Mason Dixon line 5 Featured article candidacy for an Hugo Chavez subarticle 6 Thanks! 7 Thanks 8 Thanks for the Barnstar 9 Thanks! 10 Jewish Defense League - Attempted corrections 11 Socialist 12 Thanks for the welcome 13 *lol* 14 Frustrated User 15 Depravity 16 Missing Wikipedians 17 Re: Mark Martin 18 Welcome template 19 WikiProject Numismatics 20 thx 21 Esperanza elections 22 Thank you 23 "apparent newbie mistake" vs. "vandalism" 24 i r admin plx plx plx 25 Welcome 26 Thanks 27 UserboxDesign 28 Howcheng's RfA 29 RfA thanks from Deathphoenix 30 Wiki-Vacation 31 Good idea. 32 re:georgereevesproject@yahoo.com 33 Catholic Church of Wikipedia 34 Three revert rule 35 James Gregory (mineralogist) 36 Esperanza elections 37 Esperanza Elections 38 Thanks

[edit] New user box

Hello TantalumTelluride, Im SWD316. Im giving you the template for your user page called Template:User Member. It's a user box that says your a member of the AWWDMBJ.... Hope you like it! SWD316 03:30, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I have enthusiastically implemented the template on my user page! --TantalumTelluride 05:33, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] User:Kate

What happened to kate? Who the heck would want to bother her? --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 15:26, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I suppose you're referring to my message on Kate's talk page. I've only been contributing to Wikipedia for about a month now, and I've never worked with Kate. But from her talk page, I inferred that she was fed up with the Wikipedia community and stayed as long as she did only because she was interested in the technical side of the project. Her edit counter contributed significantly to the editcountitis epidemic that has caused a sort of controversy at RfA (and possibly at other places). However, she always reminded other users that edit counting is not the sole means of determining experience or trustworthiness. Surely the constant bickering about editcountitis and complaints about her edit counter played a role in her decision to go on "indefinite" wikibreak. After reading some of her archived tallk pages, it seems to me that she resented the community because of the lack of appreciation we showed her. (Several user said "Thanks. I love your edit-counting tool!" But generally they turned around and said "What's wrong with you! Your tool has been broken for seventeen minutes! What's taking you so long to fix it?!?") Oh well, hopefully she will come back. --TantalumTelluride 17:10, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

I suffer from same symptoms. Is this an epidemic? :/ --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:52, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

It is indeed. Several admins have not survived it. Unfortnately, there is no cure at this time. Some have suggested that the community's only hope is fundamental policy change. However, you can seek treatment from Esperanza, or you can review the latest BJAODN for a humorous distraction. You could have sought a blessing from the WikiPope, but he has recently fallen victim to the epidemic himself. --TantalumTelluride 22:10, 1 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Feel Free To Copy It!

Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery i've heard. Who knows? Maybe we'll be able to improve each other's welcome pages.

Also, while i'm here, do you mind helping my friend here? If not, i'll understand, but he's great bureaucrat material and we definately need more bureaucrats, particularly in his time zone.

Oh yeah, one more thing. If you get a chance, please feel free to participate in my user sub project, i'm trying to see if there's a trend on the political views of Wikipedians. karmafist 06:30, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] = Mason Dixon line

TantalumTelluride -8.63 -7.74

Somehow I think Alabama must be even harder on you than the comparatively progressive Massachusetts is on me :-) (I spent a year in South Carolina... ouch). Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 01:33, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

I don't know. Sometimes I feel like no one else understands me. Other times, I feel like there are a lot of democratic socialists around here who just don't realize what they are. When I'm feeling lonely, I just remember that "sanity is not statistical." --TantalumTelluride 05:32, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

Heh, sorry for reminding you. Anyway, thanks for trying to keep me from leaving. karmafist 05:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured article candidacy for an Hugo Chavez subarticle

I noticed you have listed yourself in Category:Socialist Wikipedians. That said, you will probably be interested in an Hugo Chávez Featured Article Candidacy (FAC). Chavez himself happens to be a socialist politician. As usual, please use your own higher judgment in deciding how to vote on this FAC, if you should decide to devote a few seconds to the matter. Regards, ← SARAVASK — 01:51, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I'll pass. I don't contribute to Wikipedia to express any political views. In fact, I try to stay away from articles related to politics (except to revert vandalism, of course). I've indicated my self-categorization as a democratic socialist, but I think I need to avoid editing political articles at this time. Thanks for the notice, though. --TantalumTelluride 05:44, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for your comment. I knew from the beginning it would be an uphill battle to have the article kept - actually, I myself would favor deletion were it not for my strange and thorough interest in FRNs - but it is great to see a civil and productive AFD. Paul 00:25, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar. :) My counter tool has a couple of bugs that need to be squashed, and your comments give me the boost I need to fix them. It really is a temporary tool though (it's a needless waste of bandwidth for Wikipedia and for me), so hopefully some other alternative will appear. I'm not sure my shell account can bear the full strength of all Wikipedian's editcountitis combined. --Interiot 02:07, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks as well! It was greatly appreciated. As with Interiot's counter, I still need to fix out a few kinks, and I hope to add more improvements and statistics so that it can be more than an edit counter. I'll add a more descriptive and detailed instruction on how to use the tool soon. Thanks a lot! Flcelloguy (A note?) 03:16, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

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new login is whatthree16, thx. —the preceding unsigned comment is by 67.184.126.159 (talk • contribs) 07:20, 7 December 2005

Thanks for registering, whatthree16. You know where to find me if you ever need any wiki-help. --TantalumTelluride 18:05, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the Barnstar

Thanks for the barnstar! I appreciate it. --Nlu (talk) 02:11, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thank you - and I am indeed keeping the sig. Cheers! BD2412 T 03:53, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Jewish Defense League - Attempted corrections

I just read your post regarding the mess this has turned in to. I apologize for the rules violations. I trust that you will be fair in your determinations. I will not do any further editing this evening. My version of the page is below. I will check it again tomorrow. I appreciate your efforts to remain objective.

Bill Maniaci, <maccabee@charter.net>--Bill Maniaci 04:15, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Jewish Defense League (Revision as of 04:09, 8 December 2005)

Thanks for understanding. I've reduced your version of the article to a hyperlink to avoid confusion among others who try to use my talk page. (Remember, old revisions of articles are always retrievable from their respective history pages as well as your own contributions page.) I'm afraid my knowledge of the JDL is minimal, but I will be glad to help you if you have any problems with Wikipedia's policies. If the controversy cannot be resolved through discussion on talk pages, there are some appropriate measures for resolving conflict in Wikipedia. But first, let's try to handle this through collaborative discussion. After all, that's what Wikipedia is all about! And remember, always assume good faith with regard to other editors, and they will most likely do the same for you. --TantalumTelluride 04:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

FYI, someone has deleted the hyperlink that you made to my version. I want to resolve this matter post haste. I appreciate your assistance. Bill--Bill Maniaci 04:00, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

I've fixed the link. (That was my mistake. Sorry.) --TantalumTelluride 04:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Socialist

made this userbox thought you might like. template:User Socialist. Bartimaeus 11:48, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks --TantalumTelluride 18:39, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks for the welcome

Thanks for the welcome. I am indeed testing a new template in the sandboxes and such and I will get around to unleashing it in a week or so after I know I've found all the newbie friendly parts of WP (although I don't want to overwhelm them). It seems that a few people who I've greeted had the impression that I thought they were vandals. >.< --Landon 13:44, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, I set aside about 30 minutes and open ~20-30 tabs at a time and welcome. --Landon 20:02, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] *lol*

*laughing* thank you for welcoming me to the Welcoming Committee, that was very welcoming :-) take a look at User_talk:Stavos to see my welcoming format, i think you will approve of it. with kind regards Gryffindor 16:32, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

I didn't even know that template existed. looks rather bland to me. feel free to use anything from my format, this is wikipedia after all :-) Gryffindor

[edit] Frustrated User

hi there. i've been a Wiki user for ages although only register my account recently.

i've tried adding this site http://chinese-astrology.blogspot.com/ into the relevant topics in Wikipedia countless times, but each time it was removed by administrators. Yes it is a blog, and to allow blog links in Wiki is against the Wiki rules, yes i am finally aware... but is Wiki going to deny net-surfers the chance to access sites that have depth in relevant topics just because it is a blog?? Look around, there are countless links that are in fact commercial sites - sites that talk superficially about certain topics and require readers to pay for more detailed reports etc. .

i think Wiki administrators need a rethink on what to allow or disallow in the -=External Links=-. If all Wiki wants are just websites that talk about specific topics without depth - websites that are a dime a dozen on google search - then how does Wikipedia progress?

Before Wiki administrators removed Users-contributed links, do you actually surf the added-sites before you remove them? do you? does any administrator take the time to read through the sites before deciding whether the contents will add value to Wikipedia? Lastly, are ALL administrators so well-versed in all topics listed on Wiki that they could remove sites they deem irrelevant at a glance or revert deleted links as the bible of Wiki of which readers cannot do without?

Wikipedia is an asset of the internet community, but please do not let the bureaucratic few of administrative rights to screw it up or impede its progress. Commonsense 20:40, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Depravity

I have nothing to do with the State, but ever since I saw "Alabama State Constitution" on the DYK part of the Main Page (I think it was back the templates were editable!) I've been on and off cronicaling[sic] its depravity; I like to think I've added to WikimediAs info on it and made myself a minor authority on it. As to the governorate candidates, I can't find much bad about the Leut., the second one seems to be a corrupt fraudster (As per the new policy, "seems to be" since he hasn't been convicted), the current governor looks a littel suspiscious, especially with his comments about his "Christian" taxation system, and the last one, Yikes! 68.39.174.238 21:57, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Hmm, my State isn't quite that bad... 68.39.174.238 23:04, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

Jumbo lives in ALABAMA‽ OH THE WIKIHUMANITY!!!!!!! 68.39.174.238 02:28, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

OKok I get it. BTW, you may want to look @ Seal of Alabama v. Alabama, the images don't agree. 68.39.174.238 03:29, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Fixed your link, hope you don't mind --Landon 04:13, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

OK, whatever, I think... 68.39.174.238 05:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

I've fixed the problem at Seal of Alabama. The existing article was a copy-vio, and it wasn't even accurate. It was about the Alabama Coat of Arms! --TantalumTelluride 05:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

HeHe, since it hasn't been hauled to the Supreme Coort for violating III/4 I guess it can't be that bad. Any what's wrong with Mississippi (Besides the suspiscious/dangerous canton and name)? ;D 68.39.174.238 05:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Missing Wikipedians

I'd like to say a quick thanks for your very fair comments on SqueakBox's talk page regarding my entry on WP:MW. My final comment was indeed a way of saying why I left, and I'd happily shorten it or make it a little less inflammatory if you would so prefer (just ask kindly rather than removing me altogether!). It wasn't so much a case of returning as a troll; I had been away for a while, and on returning and getting going with some more editing I decided I couldn't be bothered for the reasons listed on MW. I might come back one day - we'll see. Thanks, --HighHopes 23:15, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Sounds good to me. Edit it as you please, and thanks for doing so. --HighHopes 00:15, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Re: Mark Martin

I've responded on the article's Talk Page. My apologies for the late reply. --Mrmiscellanious 06:44, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

Heh. Sorry, but I haven't heard of him (and after a few rounds of Google searches, I can't find anything on him). --Mrmiscellanious 19:43, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Welcome template

Thanks, but a major disadvantage is that it transcludes all the qif code into the talk page when you use subst. There's probably no way to evaluate the if's and then have it transclude only text. For now I'm using my own template...sometimes it's better to keep it simple. —Bmdavll _talk 23:26, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WikiProject Numismatics

Dear WikiProject Numismatics member:

You may have noticed the edits made by user:mom2jandk, and you may have also noticed that I have reverted most of them. I would like to leave this note as an explanation.

mom2jandk is a new user and a clearly enthusiastic member of WikiProject:Numismatics. However, he/she has made several changes (specifically to the categorization scheme) that I reverted for various reasons. Among them, he/she:

• Moved most of the articles in Category:United States Mint to Category:United States mints. This seems to serve no purpose; the United States Mint is the proper name of a government agency (that you are all no doubt familiar with) and its category was created as a home for articles relating to it.

• Created Category:United States currency designers. At the moment there does not seem to be anyone in this category who does not already fit into Category:United States Mint engravers, therefore making it a redundant category.

• Created Category:United States Mint officers. This is problematic for several reasons. Firstly, while any number of persons employed by the Mint might be correctly referred to as "officers," I've never seen the term used. Secondly, virtually all of the articles in the category would fit under Category:United States Mint engravers or Category:Directors of the United States Mint. Thirdly, even if there are articles about persons who were neither engravers or directors, there would likely not be enough to warrant a subcategory, and therefore such an article should be placed in Category:United States Mint.

• Created several other categories that either do not fit or fit awkwardly into the categorization scheme.

• Nominated several categories for deletion, including United States Mint, United States Mint engravers, and others.
  • On the deletion vote for Cat:United States Mint, he seems to be confused as to the purpose of the category; it is, as I said, for articles relating to the government agency known as the United States Mint. There are mints in the United States that are not part of the United States Mint (i.e. the Franklin Mint) and his confusion over this fact seems to be the impetus for the nomination.
  • You might also notice that he nominated cat:Directors of the United States Mint; his explanation is that he broadened the category to "United States Mint officers" so that a Superintendent could be included. The "superintendent of the Mint" to which he referred was Roswell K. Colcord, who was superintendent of the Carson City Mint; there is no such office as "superintendent" for the entire United States Mint (or, if there is, it is distinct from Director of the Mint.)

After reading this fairly lengthy message, you might get the impression that I am attacking either mom2jandk or his/her edits; this is not the case. I have a great deal of admiration for him/her as a new user who is not afraid to jump in and try to improve Wikipedia and the Numismatics project. I hope he/she continues to contribute, and I believe he/she has a great deal to offer. This message is quite long because I wanted to explain the specifics of the categories (many of which, incidentally, were created by me.)

Note that I placed merge tags on most of mom2jandk's categories.

It goes without saying that, if there are any categories that should be altered and/or deleted, by all means make such changes, regardless of whether I or anyone else created them; neither I nor my edits are perfect.

Apologies for using he/she; I assume mom2jandk's user name reflects her role as a mother but I wasn't completely certain.

Thank you all and I look forward to continued work with you in the future. Paul 06:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] thx

Thx for your welcome.Tony 12:05, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza elections

[edit] Thank you

Thank you for bringing me back to Wikipedia. I was going to leave, and was checking my last messages when I saw yours. I am glad that I am appreciated and you have made good contributions, too. Please respond. Pax Christi.--Anti-Anonymex2^{Come to my page! I've gone caliente loco!} 03:01, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] "apparent newbie mistake" vs. "vandalism"

You referred to this edit by 210.211.83.61 as an "apparent newbie mistake," but you referred to this edit by 68.190.51.99 as "vandalism."

What's the difference? Why was the edit by 68.190.51.99 not an "apparent newbie mistake"? 128.192.236.41 16:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

The edit to the Illiterate redirect page was committed by an anonymous user with a long record of blatant vandalism. (See his talk page.) The vandal is likely a fan of the University of Alabama or another rival of Auburn University, because he replaced the redirect from "Illiterate" to "Literacy" with a redirect to "Auburn University." User:210.211.83.61 found the vandalism before any experienced Wikipedians did, and he replaced the content of the Auburn University article with a request for someone to fix the redirect. He should have used the article's talk page to request help, but he was obviously not familiar with the Wikipedia system. I reverted both of the edits and I placed appropriate messages on each of the respective user talk pages. Then User:210.211.83.61, registered as User:MeanDean, left a message on my talk page (here), to which I responded on his new talk page. According to Wikipedia:Vandalism, mitakes by new users are not considered vandalism, and I apologized to MeanDean for the misunderstanding. He was satisfied with my explanation. Unfortunately, he has not made any further edits since then. --TantalumTelluride 20:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Speaking of vandalism, I received this message on my talk page:

An anonymous user, 65.96.95.126, with a history of vandalism has added your user name to the members list of the Catholic Church of Wikipedia and has edited your user page. I see that you have identified yourself as a Catholic, but many "real" Catholics are offended by the Wikipedia parody. If you want to be a member of the church, feel free to leave your name there. However, you might want to remove it. Thanks. --TantalumTelluride 21:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Let me explain.

That IP address is my school's IP address, which is hooked up to Comcast internet service. Most pages that require accounts (such as Hotmail) are blocked by the server. Thus, if I wanted to access pages such as Wikipedia, I can not use my user name of DanCBJMS (or my IP number for when I'm at home and not logged in, which occasionally does happen). I'm assuming other Wikipedians at my school would feel the same way. Thus, that IP address is used by a lot of people, students and teachers alike. Now, I don't know about the vandalism being committed on that IP address, and only then when I tried to edit an article with my knowledge of the local broadcasting system there that I encountered it (explained on my talk page). So I began to look at that IP address' contributions, and about half to three-quarters of those contributions I don't recognize. I recognize Daewoo Tosca, but Will Rogers? Who is Will Rogers anyway?

As for if I'm offended with the parody. I am not, and in fact it was actually me who posted myself onto the userlist, because of the reasons stated above. Do you want me to remove and repost my name? Why is it that bad things always seem to happen to me? -Daniel Blanchette 21:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] i r admin plx plx plx

Thank you for your nomination and support, and good luck to any other candidates you might nominate in the future. — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 05:46, Dec. 17, 2005

plx = leet/aol variant of "pls" or "plz" meaning "please", just as "thx" is "thank you". — FREAK OF NUR_xTURE (TALK) 05:30, Dec. 18, 2005

[edit] Welcome

Thanks for the info, I didn't know welcome had a subst template for it, will use from now on. Tufflaw 03:37, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks

Thanks, I appriciate your kind words. SWD316 ^{talk to me} 22:47, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] UserboxDesign

Do you think you could try a couple of Userbox categories above 5+, maybe some sort of insanity/compulsive disorder levels? I think I am a candidate, and I think a couple of wiki friends are sort of avoiding me now because of it.... Maybe I'll try to make my own, but I thought i'd contact you to let you know. vcxlor 08:15, 20 December 2005 (UTC) You might be interested to see my response to Cool cat (with many typos) in relation to user boxes as to my thoughts on the matter, I dont think self censorship on your or my part is necessarily going to stop the mania when it strikes, I guess we will need to set up a page of wiki policy on limits/usage/ by about Jan 6 is my guess. vcxlor 01:15, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

Inddeeddies they is Evil, but I might have got it wrong aabovre - they will probably become a separate wiki all on their own, grow some bizarre thing and become the next google type thing maybe (horrors)vcxlor 01:33, 23 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Howcheng's RfA

[edit] RfA thanks from Deathphoenix

Hi TantalumTelluride (I've used tantalum capacitors, but I'm certainly no chemist),

I just wanted to thank you for supporting me in my RfA. To tell you the truth, I was surprised by all the support I've gotten. I never saw myself as more than an occasional Wiki-hobbyist.

My wife sends her curses, as Wikipedia will likely suck up more of my time. She jokingly (I think) said she was tempted to log on to Wikipedia just to vote Oppose and let everyone know that she didn't want her husband to be an admin.

I'll make sure your trust in me is founded. --Deathphoenix 14:40, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Wiki-Vacation

Well, I told myself i'd "try" at least ;-)

Compared to the other days recently, this is a slowdown of sorts I guess. Hey, before I go, do you mind giving me you opinion on List of Cowboy Bebop Bountyheads? I think it can be featured, but nobody's responding to my peer review. karmafist 23:11, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Good idea.

I agree with you. I didn't think of the category, so I am glad you put it in there. Thanks. :-) Flarn 01:39, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] re:georgereevesproject@yahoo.com

Hi TantalumTelluride, I saw that you had agreed to get in touch with georgereevesproject@yahoo.com via email. I don't understand how he cannot read his talk page? He is able to edit articles, edit article talk pages, blank user pages, and he has edited some of his user pages and talk pages prior to his message. Perhaps he does not realize that he does already know how to do this? He seems very frustrated that he does not know to click on a blue user name to contact a user, and yet he HAS gone to user's pages (and blanked them, hopefully by accident, although he doesn't have that problem with articles). He goes under names Vesa, Gildyshow, one or two anon IPs, as well as Projects and perhaps others... I wish you good luck with this user! If there's anything I can do to help let me know. Herostratus 02:15, 29 December 2005 (UTC) --- Right. But poor LemonTwist only made that one edit... a single cry for help before disappearing back into the nameless void whence he came. User:Projects has made hundreds in just a few days. And they've all been reverted, but not all of them were without value, it's just that signal-to-noise ratio is so low... but can he not be broken to the plow, I wonder. He may be spitting fire, but calling for help too... I'm mulling whether to email him, but I'm a little afraid to... Herostratus 03:19, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Catholic Church of Wikipedia

I would still like to join Baxdogg 03:00, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Three revert rule

I did accept your compromise, but I have observed that you did not read here.

FLaRN2005 04:16, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] James Gregory (mineralogist)

I just wanted to let you know that I added some new information to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/James Gregory (mineralogist). Happy New Year! -- DS1953 ^talk 23:54, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

If you think the article should be kept now, I would suggest just changing your vote and letting the nomination sit on AfD. Someone else may come along and makes it a speedy keep, but Wiki etiquette dictates that neither you nor I should close a nomination on which we have commented. It could be a speedy keep, but even if the article is accurate, some people may feel Mr. Gregory is not notable (although I think his tie in to one of the most famous diamonds should be enough).

Thanks for taking the time to check my links. I actually find it kind of fun to try to find these types of articles on AfD (and have had at least one of my own nominations on AfD turned around on me). -- DS1953 ^talk 03:54, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza elections

Thanks for voting for me in the Esperanza elections. I've been appointed to the Advisory Committee, thanks to your show of confidence in me. I'll do my best to make you proud, but please feel free to ask me for help at any time or to give me tips as to what you would like to do. Thanks for being an active member of Esperanza! I'll see you around. Titoxd^{(?!? - help us)} 00:38, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Esperanza Elections

Thank you for your vote! Please let me know if I can help you as an advisory council member in the future. karmafist 00:59, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks