Talk:Tancred of Hauteville

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Should the crusading Tancred be known by this name? He was not of the Hauteville male line - his mother was a daughter of Robert Guiscard, I believe. I'm not sure what his father's family name was. john k 06:42, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

That is what he is always called though...maybe he actually ruled a place called Hauteville. I'll see if I can find any info on that. Adam Bishop 07:11, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Hauteville was the place in Normandy that Robert Guiscard et al's father ruled. I don't think Tancred had even ever been in Normandy. john k 08:07, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

That's true, and a quick search through the indexes of the various books I have here list him as simply "Tancred," "Tancred of Taranto," or "Tancred of Antioch." It's been on Wikipedia so long that Google is difficult to use here, but I think the Hauteville part may come from Britannica (and now I have no idea where I got it from!). What should we use instead? Adam Bishop 16:34, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

His title in the Holy Land was "Prince of Galilee" or "Prince of Tiberias," I think...Something like that might work... He was never actually Prince of Antioch - just regent for Bohemond I and Bohemond II. john k 20:25, 1 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Okay, contrary to my claim that he is "always" called that (which I seem to have made up entirely), I found that in books about the First Crusade he most often just called "Tancred," or "Tancred, nephew of Bohemund." Calling him "of Hauteville" seems to be popular in French books, although not consistently. Contemporary works just call him "Tancred" or sometimes use one of his later titles like "lord of Galilee." So your suggestion is good - that also fits the naming conventions (as far as I understand) where we use the title at the time of death, which was Prince of Galilee in this case. I'll move him to a new page. Adam Bishop 19:34, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)

so if this is the same Tancred as the Prince of Galilee, then why the seperate pages? this should be almagamated.

They're not the same. Adam Bishop 17:40, 7 January 2006 (UTC)