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[edit] Please help fill the needed articles for the PhilPres template

I ask to alll of those Filipino Wikipedians, and even foreign Wikipedians, out there to please help me fill the voids of the PhilPres template. Out of the 31 related-articles, we have successfully made 18 articles (15 newly-created articles and 3 already-there-before-the-template articles). We still need to create 13 more articles in order to complete it.

I wanted to set an exact deadline (December 31, 2006) so that it would create some pressure on us, but I think it would only create a chaos, so, I think, we should complete all of the 13 needed articles. If you want to set a deadline, please tell me and let's decide if it will reach a concensus. --- Kevin Ray 13:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I changed the color scheme into something not so eye-straining. I hope you don't mind. --Mithril Cloud 13:46, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
Thats Ok Mithril Cloud! Well, I have to thank also Men72194 for creating the List of Philippine Presidents who served one term or less. Thanks a lot! I have also finished the List of Philippine presidential inaugurations article. We have already successfully done 20 articles!!! 11 articles to go!!! Keep up the fighting spirit! --- Kevin Ray 10:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
UPDATE: 23 articles done, 8 articles to go! - Men72194 08:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Lastest Update: As of December 7, 2006, we have already created 24 articles and 6 articles left to be done! I had deleted Control of Congress because the infos about it is so hard to find and created List of Philippine Presidents by longevity. Maybe we'll return it later if we have enough datas for it. -- Kevin Ray 04:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Anong Latest sa PhilPres: As of December 14, 2006, I had finished 2 articles: Former Philippine Presidents who ran again and List of Philippine Presidents by time as former president. We have already 26 articles and 4 articles left. Please help us in completing this list. Please... -- Kevin Ray 04:38, 14 December 2006 (UTC)


Lists of Presidents and Vice Presidents of the Philippines
Presidential lists of order Order of service | Birth | Death | Age at assumption | Longevity | Post-presidency length | Term length
Presidential personal life lists First names | Middle names | Last names | Nicknames | College education | Province | Previous occupation | Religious affiliation
Presidential professional life lists Political affiliation | Political occupation | Inaugurations | Served one term or less | Served more than one term | Currency appearances
Vice President lists Order of service | Birth | Death | Term length
Succession Line of succession
Elections Election results
Candidates Tickets | Former presidents who ran again
Unsuccessful candidates Tickets

I would also like to thank those who helped me in creating and editing the PhilPres template related-articles :

[edit] For the love of LRT pictures!

A mass of Manila Light Rail Transit System pictures were deleted, and it's all because of the PD-PhilippinesGov license. Apparently, even two of the three pictures nominated to be kept per discussions here were deleted. Either we get free replacements now (urgency on the LRT map), or otherwise, I have to re-upload some of them per fair use rationales. --Sky Harbor 23:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Aguinaldo signature missing

Aguinaldo signature missing. Scorpion prinz 06:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism in LSQC School Article

hi guys. the Wiki page on Lourdes School of Quezon City (see page history) was recently vandalized by User:Lourdesian3404, who added a smattering of uh, pornographic words.

i've already reverted the edits; however, seeing that i'm quite inexperienced when it comes to these kinds of issues, can you advise me as to what step i'll take next? can this user be banned for the vandalism? any thoughts on this from the pinoy wiki admins?

thanks a lot guys. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Corsarius (talk • contribs).

See Wikipedia:Reverting. And the school hymn really has to go too. --Howard the Duck 10:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thanks, howard. i've removed the hymn. oh, and apologies for the unsigned post. forgot it! -- Corsarius 16:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Philippine Government

Something is wrong with this template: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Philippine_Government Whoever is responsible, please fix it. Thanks! Never mind! I already fixed it. It was vandalised. --Weekeejames 19:20, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On this week in the Philippines

Hope everyone can fill up the dates at Portal:Philippines/On this week/Anniversaries. Thanks. --Howard the Duck 04:48, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

i have some info for the DYK section. problem is, i don't know how to do it. and, there are already existing articles about those information. how do i go about doing this? --RebSkii 18:05, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I haven't done this myself, but I do remember that some information can be found here and here. This, on the other hand, is the guide. Hope these help. :) --- Tito Pao 21:04, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Men72194 (talk • contribs)

You guys might be interested in Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Emir214. – Chacor 05:34, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Very surprising indeed. This is why reconciliation is so hard. --Sky Harbor 00:28, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What to name our airports?

Okay, for the sake of standardization, what do you suggest should be the procedure for naming international airports in Tagalog and other Philippine languages? There are two possibilities:

  • Paliparang Pandaigdig and translations (Spanish word order)
  • Pandaigdigang Paliparan and translations (English word order)

The names are used interchangeably. Because of that, we need to choose which one we're going to adopt for all Philippine Wikipedias and for the Tagalog/Filipino names of the airports on the English Wikipedia. --Sky Harbor 14:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

We usually say "magandang babae" (as a standalone phrase) rather than "babae na maganda or babaeng maganda" although both are correct and the latter is used for emphasis and in complete sentences (eg. Ang babaeng maganda ay magnanakaw.). But this does not mean the former cannot be used (eg. Ang magandang babae ay magnanakaw.). Thus, the modifier, generally, comes before the noun in standalone phrases (payat na lalake, bilog na buwan, pulang kotse). In light of this, International Airport (as a standalone phrase) should be translated as "Pandaigdigang or Pangdaigdigang Paliparan". --Weekeejames 20:04, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

But in this case it will be used as let's say, Ninoy Aquino International Airport in Tagalog. --Sky Harbor 23:58, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
Again, the modifier should come before the noun and/or phrase. "Ninoy Aquino" acts as a modifier to the phrase "International Airport". Therefore, it should be translated as "Ninoy Aquino Pandaigdigang Paliparan" (incomplete phrase) or "Ang Ninoy Aquino Pandaigdigang Paliparan" (complete phrase). It would be akward and wrong to say "Ang Pandaigdigang Paliparan Ninoy Aquino" which implies the international airport is owned by Ninoy Aquino - "Ang Pandaigdigang Paliparan (ni) Ninoy Aquino" or worst, "Ang Paliparang pandaigdigan Ninoy Aquino". --Weekeejames 01:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

By the way there are cases like Zamboanga City International Airport which has to be translated as "(Ang) Pandaigdigang Paliparan ng Lungsod ng Zamboanga" because, indeed, the airport might be owned by the local government of the city of Zamboanga (if it were). --Weekeejames 01:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

But in this case, ni is not used because Ninoy does not own the airport. That's why the ligature used is ng, as in Paliparang Pandaigdig ng Ninoy Aquino or Pandaigdigang Paliparan ng Ninoy Aquino. --Sky Harbor 02:25, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I know they always refer to it as Paliparang Pandaigdig, whenever you are about to land right? This is the one in practice. Scorpion prinz 03:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
Which airlines use it though? Bluemask told me on the Tagalog Wikipedia that Cebu Pacific uses such, but how many other airlines do? I think PAL uses it also, but I'm not sure. --Sky Harbor 11:22, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
If I remember right, it is used by a Filipina flight attendant whatever the airline is. --Mithril Cloud 13:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
So Paliparang Pandaigdig it is? If it is, then we need translations to the other Philippine languages as part of standardization. --Sky Harbor 14:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
I agree with the 'Paliparang Pandaigdig'...heard it from both Cebu Pacific and PAL flight attendants just last September. -- Corsarius 12:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Go to google and type with the double quotation marks the words 'Paliparang Pandaigdig'; you will get only 15 results while you will get 83 results for 'Pandaigdigang Paliparan'. It's no surprise. It should really be translated as Pandaigdigang Paliparan Ng Ninoy Aquino. --Weekeejames 19:43, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Yes, but what might be Internet practice may be different from real-life practice. I might take a further investigation into it. --Sky Harbor 21:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't get it. If I had to follow your logic, then it follows that Wikipedia might not be a real-life practice thing because it's on the Internet? Then what's our use here? I tried to Google the words because some thought flight attendants were more credible (than perhaps writers on the web) or such usage is more in common "practice" than the other. But Google's data show the otherwise... --Weekeejames 23:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Well I tend to not question Google (thinking Windows 98 and others), but I would like to see more statistics on this. I might ask some of the Wikipedians working on Philippine airports, or I can call the airport offices and see what messages they use. --Sky Harbor 11:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Translations

I think I can come up with the following names (NAIA as an example):

  • English: Ninoy Aquino International Airport
  • Tagalog: Paliparang Pandaigdig ng Ninoy Aquino
  • Cebuano: Tugpahanang International sa Ninoy Aquino (rough translation)
  • Kapampangan: Sulapawang Pangmabilug a Yatu ning Ninoy Aquino (rough translation)
  • Chabacano/Spanish: Aeropuerto Internacional Ninoy Aquino

For Cebuano and Kapampangan, I had to use dictionaries to compile the proper forms of the names.

Please fill in as you go (and correct if necessary). --Sky Harbor 14:56, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I read your reasons for using ng over ni above. But it doesn't sound right to me. For one thing, being genitive markers (not ligatures) ng and ni are synonymous with the latter being used for names of people. Basically, you are saying "International Airport of Ninoy Aquino" either way. Another alternative would be to use the ligature na - Paliparang Pandaigdig na Ninoy Aquino. Sounds odd, but technically "Ninoy Aquino" is modifying Paliparang Pandaigdig.

Also, is there an official Tagalog term used by the airport? If not, then I'd go with the English translation despite being in those foreign Wikipedias.

Also, the Spanish translation would be Aeropuerto Internacional Ninoy Aquino judging from the Spanish version of Charles de Gaulle International Airport which is es:Aeropuerto Charles de Gaulle. --Chris S.

I still don't get why it's 'Paliparang Pandaigdig' over 'Pandaigdigang Paliparan' ^_^. The original edit was for Chabacano (Somehow, someone inserted Spanish) that was translated from Tagalog, not from English. Hence, from 'ng' came 'de' and I agree, 'de' should be taken out of which would still be correct for Spanish (I'm taking 'de' out). Also, indeed Ninoy Aquino is a modifier for the International Airport. Hence, If I go back to my original contention, Ninoy Aquino Pandaigdigang Paliparan, I realize it would sound odd. If we use the ligature 'na' it would sound right. Now let me expound. 'Bilog na buwan' is as correct as 'buwan na bilog' but not 'buwang bilog' and 'babae na matanda' cannot be 'matanda na babae' (sounds odd) for we would be saying 'matandang babae'. Now if we apply, Ninoy Aquino International Airport, we would not be saying 'Ninoy Aquino Pandaigdigang Paliparan' (sounds odd), neither 'Pandaigdigang Paliparan na Ninoy Aquino' (sounds odd), but since we're getting technical here (I remember grammar and sentence diagraming in high school :D), it seems like the correct translation would be Pandaigdigang Paliparang Ninoy Aquino. --Weekeejames 20:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
That's because the de in French is already de in Spanish. Having de twice is redundant. --Sky Harbor 12:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
I think it's because they treat "Charles de Gaulle" as an adjective. It's like with street names. "George Washington street" - "calle George Washington" or "rue George Washington." How are street names done in Tagalog if they are? "Kalye Manuel Quezon?" I only remember English and Spanish street names when I lived there. --Chris S. 15:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
If they (street names in English) were done in Tagalog, they would have become "Kalye ng Manuel Quezon" sa Lungsod ng Quezon, for example. --Weekeejames 20:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What is the northernmost island?

Mavudis Island or Y'Ami Island? --Howard the Duck 15:05, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Y'Ami is the northernmost point of land at latitude 21°07' N. however, Y'Ami is an islet, thus the northernmost island is Mavudis Island the exact longitude of Mavudis in seconds (is unknown to me) i'm not sure if W or E of Y'Ami and latitude is (based on my interpolation) some seconds or even minutes S. - RebSkii 18:45, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] License lessons

Well, we all know the "why we should use Creative Commons" picture in the map factoid discussion. Well, I took the initiative to translate it into Tagalog. Take a look!

What do you think? Literally, this is my first image to Commons, and hopefully this works! --Sky Harbor 16:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hey, this is great :) Kudos. -- Corsarius 12:10, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Keep up the good work!! height--Jondel 14:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Nice. Though I see you use siya to mean it. ;-) --Chris S. 01:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Like previous experience, it's commonly used. Unfortunately, I have a hard time choosing between iyan and iyon with regard to objects, so I chose the neutral alternative.  :-) --Sky Harbor 12:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Ah, I see. For me the neutral alternative would to have simply used no pronoun at all; i.e., "hindi gaanong kakumbiniyente..." --Chris S. 15:24, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subic Rape Case

It seems that there is no article regarding Nicole and Corporal Daniel Smith. Berserkerz Crit 06:55, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

You create it yourself. --Howard the Duck 06:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Yah I did. I'm just having a hard time composing it with everything that needs to be included. @_@ Berserkerz Crit 07:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
i think an article on the subject should rather be included in the news section. i have nothing anything against nicole or the american marines, but i believe they should have some sort of notability -- RebSkii 19:25, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
well the case itself is notable because of the fact that for the first time the Philippines has convicted an American officer on the grounds of rape. A lot of cases have been filed only to end with a dismissal, acquittal, or private settlement. The case has a lot of implications for RP-US relations. Berserkerz Crit 14:30, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
I second that...especially the part about RP-US relations. In particular, much of the discussion about this case not only rests on the actual crime (the rape) but also on the treaty (the Visiting Forces Agreement or VFA); think of any known op-ed columnist, and chances are, they have written about this case. AFAIK, this is the first application of the VFA with respect to criminal cases, so it would also be a good idea to discuss how it has made (and, in the future, would continue to make) an impact on RP-US relations. --- Tito Pao 15:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Hi Berserkerz Crit, I put some refs in your talk pages. See if they're useful. Lenticel 01:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Confusion

This is a very contentious question in my opinion: what do we do when CheckUser goes wrong? I do, as a matter of procedure regarding archiving my YM messages, have a statement from Emir214 (talk • contribs) saying that Men72194 (talk • contribs) is not a sockpuppet of the former, and that while they may edit the same articles, the former does not initiate Philippines-related articles in the first place. Should I ask for another checkuser? --Sky Harbor 13:52, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

It's rare for CheckUser to be wrong. It's not surprising that Emir would deny it. – Chacor 14:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Well I don't know. He tells me that the two have different editing styles yet they edit (roughly) the same articles. A coincidence, perhaps, but what else can we do? --Sky Harbor 21:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Now what did Men72194 wrong to warrant a checkuser? Can the findings be made public? --Howard the Duck 09:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Checkuser was filed under code "F", which is to use sockpuppets to avoid indefinite blocks or bans (Emir214 is blocked indefinitely for offering his password to the public). Editing style was a key factor in choosing to include Men72194 in the request. – Chacor 10:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Actually I think his password thingy wasn't that malicious, since he was offering his password to anyone who'd want to edit under his username (I think he didn't know Wiki's right to vanish and/or user renaming stuff). So what's checkuser's data? --Howard the Duck 10:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
CheckUser results are never made publicly available, only those with CU access get to see it, I believe. – Chacor 10:17, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
So basically we'll never know whether they are the same person or not? Howard the Duck's presumption is correct: he told me that he was unaware that posting passwords is not allowed. He recently saw this post anonymously. --Sky Harbor 10:54, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
CheckUser confirms that they're the same person (or at the very least edited from the same IP address over a period of time, to the exact same articles), that's pretty much all the confirmation you'll get. There is no way to appeal a CU verdict, as I understand it. The evidence is pretty strong anyway. (If it is possible, but not confirmed, the CheckUser response will say exactly that; there are different possible responses based on how likely it is, Confirmed, Likely, Possible, Inconclusive and Unrelated. In this case, the result returned was "Confirmed". – Chacor 11:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
But does editing the same articles merit someone being labeled a sockpuppet? Has any communication been established with the user in question? --Sky Harbor 11:15, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Indent reset - CheckUser is extremely technical, but if there are doubts the human running the check will note them. In this case, there is a very high possibility they are the same person - Essjay will have noted "Likely" or "Possible" if he wasn't sure. Essjay is highly trusted in the community; there should really be very little doubt about the result. Like I noted above CU data is never released due to the information collected, and there are (at current time) no known ways of appeal (even then, this would be frequently misused so there's little chance of a method of appeal even being implemented), the best you could do is probably bring it up at the talk page of WP:RFCU itself... although no response is guaranteed. – Chacor 11:21, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I did contemplate doing that in the past, but I decided not to because of that. Although I, like any other self-respecting Wikipedian, have respect for people like Essjay, I don't know what else I can do if that's how CU works. But, then again, what about the little possibility that they are not, judging by the "very high possibility". --Sky Harbor 11:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I saw your discussion, and for this, I left the English Wikipedia. I am busy on the Tagalog Wikipedia with "User:Emir214/Reming 0621" and "Wikipedia:WikiProject Pilipinas". - Emir214 12:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philippine Presidency Portal is now up!

I am glad to inform you all Filipino Wikipedians that I have finally finished creating the Philippine Presidency Portal. I was compiling things up all about the Philippine Presidency, and I found it something challenging to create the portal.

Actually, I created it last December 3, 2006. It's just today that I let you know that it's now fully published and you can now see it for yourself. Contact me (talk) (contribs) first before editing and changing the portal features & for questions, suggestions, proposal, and queries regarding this portal. Thanks! -- Kevin Ray 09:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if this can be sustained. There are too few articles on the subject. --Howard the Duck 09:51, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
I have a breakdown of votes per province/city of presidential and vice presidential election results of 1969, 1992, 1998 and 2004 (the last is available from the House of Representative website) that I obtained from the COMELEC and House Congressional Library. Prior to 1969, they dont have it available. Let me know if youre interested. Scorpion prinz 13:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 4 more ARMM towns proposed

The Regional Legislative Assembly of the ARMM cant just get enough. Just right after the creation of Shariff Kabunsuan, here comes the passage of laws creating 4 more towns [1]. Pandag and Mangundadatu, to be taken from the municipality of Buluan; Midtimbang from the town of Talayan; and Talitay from Kabuntalan. I guess we just have to keep track of their relentless appetite for more LGUs. Scorpion prinz 16:19, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Typhoon Reming/Durian

With perhaps a thousand people dead, Typhoon Durian (known to us as Typhoon Reming) is really a lot more notable than being merely a subsection of 2006 Pacific typhoon season. If anyone has some free time and willingness to help the wiki, this would be a good place to direct your efforts in making a new article. --Coffee 12:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The naming convention would put the new article at Typhoon Durian (2006). --Coffee 12:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Please see User:Chacor/Sandbox/Durian 0621. Your help is appreciated! – Chacor 12:21, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dinagat Islands it is!

The "Yes" voice of the people of Dinagat Islands has made it the 5th Province of CARAGA Region and the 81st Province of the Philippines.

With a margin of only 6,914 votes coming from five towns in Dinagat Islands bailiwick of the Philippine Benevolent Missionaries Association (PBMA), the "Yes" vote for Dinagat Islands prevailed over a poorly promoted "No" vote in the December 2 referendum.

Visit this link to read the news: Dinagat isles land provincehood status

Just like with Shariff Kabunsuan, I guess we have to make some new things again. Feel free to add to the list and to put "done" on finished items. --- Kevin Ray 04:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I messed up Dinagat, Surigao del Norte --- It should be Dinagat Islands not Dinagat Island, is an administrator around to fix the redirects? I messed up the redirects . —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scorpion prinz (talk. Scorpion prinz 05:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
Done. --Chris S. 06:14, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I would like articles on the separate islands and what municipalities are on them. I did something similar for the islands of Romblon and Camotes Islands. --Chris S. 06:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More from Shariff Kabunsuan

Apparently, this Philippine Daily Inquirer article tells us that Shariff Kabunsuan also absorbed two towns from Lanao del Sur: Kapatagan and Balabagan. Looks like we need to update, and fast! --Sky Harbor 11:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I doubt the accuracy of the report, please refer to: [2], this is the official COMELEC resolution regarding the plebiscite to create Shariff Kabunsuan. I reverted some articles already on this basis. Besides the article mentions only 8 towns "Shariff Kabunsuan, which has about 500,000 people, is made up of the towns of Sultan Kudarat, Sultan Mastura, Matanog, Buldon, Barira and Parang, and the Lanao del Sur towns of Kapatagan and Balabagan. It was created on November 28 through Muslim Mindanao Act 201." (6 from Maguindanao and 2 from Lanao del Sur). Scorpion prinz 10:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dekada '70

Hi! I need your comments on the merging/moving Dekada 70 to Dekada '70 which I was working on. Please post your comments in Talk:Dekada '70 Thanks.--Pinay06 08:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Politics of the Philippines

There seems to be a problem with Template:Politics of the Philippines. The template is full-screen and bumps the body of the article(s). Please somebody check. Thanks.--Pinay06 09:05, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed! --bluemask (talk) 14:29, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
Thank you!--Pinay06 19:26, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another map factoid...

Enlarge

Just watched TV Patrol Sabado and saw the Guinobatan, Albay locator map flashed on the screen beside Bernadette Sembrano. --Howard the Duck 12:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipeda:WikiProject Pilipinas

Just popping in from the Tagalog Wikipedia. I am inviting you to join Wikipedia:WikiProject Pilipinas in the Tagalog Wikipedia. I am also asking you to help out in its tasks. It's time we put the past between us and move on.... - Emir214 13:13, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quezon, Isabela

I would like to thank the mayor of Quezon, Isabela for proving me all necessary info about the municipality. He personally made a request to upload the article in wikipedia. - Exec8 08:19, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Good job! Congratulations! --Pinay06 02:33, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Demographics of the Philippines

Hello! Will somebody please be kind enough to check the template? It looks like the contents are cluttered and not in good order. Thanks.--Pinay06 02:30, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GMA Net Satisfaction slips to -13 again

Hey guys! Just thought of giving you a heads up on the Social Weather Stations new survey results: SWS News.--Pinay06 18:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Philippine Constituent Assembly

Since this won't push through, I don't know on what to do with this... --Howard the Duck 08:15, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Maybe you can add it under the 13th Congress of the Philippines. Scorpion prinz 10:28, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Or you could add it to the Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo article. 23prootie 22:56, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
So, this is how I see the article as it stands: there is a basic discussion on what ConAss is, and what it does. That, by itself, may be a little boring and may be better left to liars lawyers, tongressmen congressmen and political scientists. However, there is ample room for developing the history part. There were a lot of people involved here (GMA, JdV, Pirma, the opposition etc.), there were a lot of incidents that affected how the ConAss proposal moved on (how GMA planned to change the system, which prompted sympathizers to solicit so-called "real" signatures in a signature campaign, which was contested in the COMELEC, which was junked by the Supreme Court, which prompted JdV and cohorts to scheme and plan the recent brouhaha and shouting matches in Congress...). Also, there's a lot of good back story material---among others, Jose de Venecia, who was also involved in a similar movement way back during Pres. Ramos's term. So the way I see it, we can instead re-develop this into something like, say "the Philippine controversy about the ConAss" and then move the title to something like, say, "2006 Philippine Constituent Assembly Proposal". I'm thinking along the lines of "Hello, Garci"...it was just a simple phone call, but it was part of a greater story---and it now has its own article :) --- Tito Pao 23:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Not true. ConAss talks are blown over and dramatized by the politicos, and the media follow their trail. It's just newsworthy, but not even historic (at the moment). Talks for such action by the politicos happen for years, and people protest for years. IMHO, ConAss should be in Wikinews or the run-up to the Philippine general election, 2007, and then fork out if its big on its own (ex. 2006 referendum on the constitution of the Philippines). When the GMA-JDV pair are already a Pres-Prime combo running the country, then an article can be made on that, (or when a new people power unseats the presidency and the lower house, whichever comes first) Crossing fingers, lol :) --Noypi380 03:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Julia Clarete

Hello! I know that most of the discussion on the tambayan has been on "serious", academic topics, so I hope you won't mind going a little "showbiz" :-) By accident, I found out that the Julia Clarete article is up for deletion, so if you have anything to say for or against the AfD, feel free to comment. --- Tito Pao 22:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

I should have checked here instead of using her personal talk page. Anyway, an anonymous user just slapped on the AfD notice and did nothing more. The deletion page - which is supposed to be created by the person who put the notice in - was made by TitoPao who was voting against it. In any case, I speedy deleted the deletion page and removed the AfD notice. --Chris S. 00:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! I also left a message on the anon user's talk page, asking for an explanation. Apparently, this same IP address was used to edit the same article a few years back, so I had a feeling that something was amiss. --- Tito Pao 02:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Project Gutenberg of the Philippines

I just found this site! Good resources on Philippines! Check it out! I still have to check out the books. --Pinay06 05:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Essay - Filipino modes of knowing by Jaime Polo

Hello all! I am trying to get hold of a copy of the essay "Filipino modes of knowing" by Jaime Polo. If anyone here, especially Atenista, has a copy or knows of how to get one, please, please let me know. Or if anyone has access to it, knows how to access it, etc. Please help. Thanks. --Pinay06 06:25, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

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