Talk:Synthpop

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This is the current text of the article, which I will be removing because it is not correct.

Synth pop is modernized new wave music, with roots stemming from P.I.L. & Depeche Mode.

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[edit] Awful sense of timeline

This article has an awful sense of timeline, of who came after what, and who was influenced by whom. It's all over the place.

[edit] Synth pop vs. Synthpop

Is there any particular reason the term "Synth pop" is used as opposed to "Synthpop"? The latter sees nearly exclusive use in my experience. -- Korpios

They're both pretty common in mine, and understood to be the same thing - David Gerard 19:48, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
I suppose it strikes me as somewhat awkward, for a couple of reasons: similarly named genres (e.g. futurepop, electropop) omit the space, and "synth pop" reads more as "pop with synthesizers" rather than a genre with "its own sylistic tendencies which differentiate it from other music" (from the article). A (completely unscientific) search on Google for the two terms shows "synthpop" outnumbering "synth pop" by nearly 2-1. -- Korpios
2:1 doesn't strike me as enough reason to fuss about it as yet - David Gerard 21:03, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
Fair enough. I just wanted to raise the issue and get some feedback; I don't suppose there's any sort of authoritative resource to point out which is "correct". - Korpios 21:17, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Not happy with the Definition and the examples

...but I don't want to just hijack the page and change it..

I feel synthpop refers specifically to a certain poppy oldschool sound with a quite mechanical sound to it.

I'm thinking about something best defined by the following bands.

- Jean Michel Jarre
- Kraftwerk
- the Human League
- Depeche Mode
- New Order
- Elegant Machinery
- Erasure
- Pet Shop Boys
- Book of Love
- De/Vision
- Michigan
- Wolfsheim (maybe, they just don't have that synthpop sound though)

I would absolutely not include the genres of EBM, (Apoptygma Berzerk, Covenant, VNV Nation, Assemblage 23 etc.) or more of Electroclash (The Postal Service, Freezepop) in this category at all.

I would also not include most 80s new wave acts, (A Flock of Seagulls, Duran Duran)

Discuss?

Mattlach 15:48, 2005 Apr 27 (UTC)

I agree. Covenant and Apoptygma , etc, do not belong in the synthpop classification. Dario 05:40, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

The term Synthpop and synth pop were almost never used along the 1980s, anyone aged above forty, can witness this fact. I guess it's more a sort of new way to put some artists in the same cathegory or regardless the historical evidence that they were seen as very different in matter of style and genre. Along the 1980s we used the following terms: New Wave, Post-punk, technopop, technorock, electronic rock. Brian W 00:51, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

I see "A Flock of Seagulls" and "Duran Duran" as part of the new romantic

[edit] Merge with Modern Synthpop

I agree that the two articles should merge and they should merge into this one (obviously). Since I am not conversant with these genres I will not attempt to do it myself though. __meco 08:34, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

I think it should be merged also. Although some bands incorporate EBM, and some are of the "Futurepop" description (label originated by VNV Nation) such as VNV Nation and Beborn Beton, there are still a lot of modernized Synthpop bands out there that associate themselves closely to being inspired by Depeche Mode, Gary Numan and the like. Wolfsheim is the perfect example, they have been around since the late 80's. They in return spawned a lot of bands similiar in style (B! Machine for example). JanderVK


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It's fine to merger modern synthpop and synthpop. One spawned the other. Perhaps, it should be under the section header '80s and beyond. '80s synthpop inspired the EBM, Futurepop, etc. of today. Modern synthpop is just synthpop made today. - added by Randall Erkelens

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