Talk:Sydney to Hobart Yacht Race

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Contents 1 Rescue services 2 Saying related to $100 bills 3 In scope for collaborative improvement and things to do 4 73/74 5 Additional Images 6 Formatting data in "winners" table

[edit] Rescue services

"While some rail against this imposed regulation, it has to be remembered that the rescue services are morally obliged to risk their lives when sailors are at risk" ... this sounds awfully moralistic and irrelevant for an encyclopaedia article.

[edit] Saying related to $100 bills

As the saying goes, "Ocean racing is like tearing up $100 bills under a cold shower."

A google search for "Ocean racing is like tearing up" only got copies of this article. Should it be removed? Andjam 06:28, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

It depends how you phrase your search terms. Google for 'sailing $100 bills' found me this CNN article from 1999. Google for 'yacht tearing $100 -wikipedia' gets quite a few as well. Perhaps rephrase it, but the saying seems to be valid. -- Chuq 07:06, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] In scope for collaborative improvement and things to do

There are an awful lot of red links relating to International yacht racing. I guess it is within scope to at least fix these up to be stubs.

Secondly, the lead section seems to be quite long and therefor perhaps not a lead as per Wikipedia:Introductions: ie consisting of "one or more introductory paragraphs". However, I am not sure what heading the material would best fit under.--A Y Arktos 19:48, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

• Much of the lead could be reworked into a history section--nixie 23:09, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] 73/74

Found this table with most of the winners [1], but it says that 1973 winner was Helsal and 1974 was Ondine III, while this table [2] has 1973 as Ondine III and 1974 as Helsal. Any idea which would be right? ---- Astrokey44|talk 23:12, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

• I would go with this link: http://rolexsydneyhobart.com/sysfile/downloads/Race_statistics.pdf as it is the official site. It gives the 73 winner as Helsal stating in the section on notable years for race records: "1962: Ondine (USA) – 3 days 03 hours 49 minutes 16 seconds (In breaking Kurrewa IV’s record set a time that stood until broken by Helsal in 1973)". The 1974 race doesn't get a mention on that page. However, this Uni of Melbourne page gives winning times stats for each race and lists Ondine III for 74 and Helsal for 73. --A Y Arktos 23:24, 12 December 2005 (UTC)

ok so its Helsel for 73, must just be the motorsm.com page which has it wrong ---- Astrokey44|talk 00:48, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Additional Images

Is this any use? GummAY 06:36, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

looks excellent, needs to be accompanied by a meaningful caption - Regards--A Y Arktos 06:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Formatting data in "winners" table

Now that the we have almost all the data we need, I think putting it in a common format would be a good idea. Currently we have:

• xd yh zm as
• xxd yyh zzm aas
• dd:hh:mm:ss
• dd:hh:mm
• d:hh:mm

The official site lists them as dd:hh:mm:ss

Thoughts anyone ? GummAY 12:42, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Oh, and do you think fleet sizes( as found here) go in that table also? GummAY 12:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I think we follow the format of the official site - I think 03:14:14:17 is easier to read than 2d 12h 36m 23s when comparing multiple times as opposed to a one off. I don't think we want a separate table for the fleet size so we should put it here. I would include starting and finishing fleet hough - sometimes there are marked differences.--A Y Arktos 21:43, 16 December 2005 (UTC)