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Some bits of the article are written more like a tourist guide than an encyclopedia. The transport section especially so. Why do we need an entire sub-section telling us about a taxi system that resembles the taxi system of every similar sized city in any developed country?
Some bits are written in an informal tone: again, the transport section suffers especially.
Cite some statistics: busses are the main form of transport? People cycle? Prove it.
Don't give every paragraph its own sub-section. I'm thinking the "Media" and "Transport" sections.
References are good, but there are a lot of unsupported claims still.
The economy section is fantastic, but could have some more on prominent industries (not just % sectors) past and present. Consider splitting to Economy of Swansea, and replacing some of the statistics on this page with a prose summary.
Except for the mention of coal I couldn't see much on the geology -- this can be mentioned at the same time as mentioning the surrounding landscapes.

Archive 1: Feb 2002 to February 2006. Contents: figures and sources for Welsh language numbers and schools; lots of things to do--largely done now; counties debate; discussion on Swansea places, regions, and wards and which to use for articles; this page wants archiving; Beyond TV.

1 Swansea Valley
2 Traws-Cambria source
3 More pictures please!!
4 Station Names
5 General and Physical Geography

[edit] Swansea Valley

Apologies if this has been covered in the etensive archived material , but.... the history and significance of the Swansea Valley and its industrialsation seem to be barely touched upon. I would have thought that it would have justified an article in its own right which would have included references to the growth of the Nickel industry, the Siemens factory, Swansea porcelain, the great copper smelters, the links back to Parys Mountain etc. It would probably include discussion of the immense impact across the world of this industrialsation and the impact of the envirnment of Swansea (which perisists to this day). If this article exists, many apologies , but it didn't appear when I searched ! Velela 15:27, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I started a History of Swansea article a year ago, got some facts down, and then forgot about it. It has quite a bit about the industrialisation, and consequently has to touch on the river and the Lower Swansea Valley. I must go back to it and finish it. I have quite a hit list of "things that are not clear" -- I really could do with scanning some old maps in, for example -- and I must get the references into a proper format. Also, I bought the book Copperopolis since then, which is huge and looks useful. I think today I shall try to update the references.

But I definitely agree that we need a Swansea Valley article. We could do with quite a lot of valleys articles. I wondered whether it could be built around the River Tawe article, but perhaps it should be separate. That way we can include all sorts. There's a couple of people who have listed themselves on WP:WWNB who would probably be interested in such an article, so you might want to mention it there.

Telsa (talk) 10:12, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Traws-Cambria source

User:Velela asked for a cite for the comment "Swansea is also on the TrawsCambria route which connects the north and south of the country together via Aberystwyth, a bus so well-known in Wales that songs have been written about it[citation needed]."

I assume it's the remark about the songs you want a cite for, rather than the bus route :) Just for the record, the song I was thinking of was Steve Eaves' song, "Traws Cambria". It's actually about a person, not about the bus: the point was that the song just mentions "she's travelling on the Traws Cambria" without explaining "so it's the whole length of Wales" or anything: it's just expected that you'll know that. Having explained that, I think it can probably go away from this article. It's not relevant to Swansea. There is a TrawsCambria article now, so if anyone wants to resurrect it, that's where it could go.

Telsa (talk) 07:35, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. It was exactly that. I should have posted an explanation but I was submerging trying to put together relevant stuff for the Lower Swansea valley artcle, without success as it happens ! Velela 08:14, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] More pictures please!!

I've added a few from my old collection of snapshots. Admittedly, they are not the best quality. There must be loads of great photographers in Swansea. A lot of Swansea articles need pictures to liven them up. Give us your pics!!! (Sloman 22:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Station Names

Swansea railway station is known as High street station and is called as such even on the National Rail Enquiries site: http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/stations/SWA.html

The main bus station in Swansea is more often referred to as the Quadrant Bus station than Swansea bus station. See http://www.firstgroup.com/ukbus/wales/swwales/timetables/timetable.php?day=1&source_id=2&service=66&routeid=853877&operator=24&source=sp (Sloman 14:18, 16 November 2006 (UTC))