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Suge Knight is also viewed with suspicion by Snoop Dogg, who was once one of Suge Knight's biggest stars at Death Row Records, as well as a majority of the hip hop community. Many people believe that Suge has information about the murder of Tupac Shakur. Some people have even suggested that Suge himself might have been directly involved in the Shakur or The Notorious B.I.G. assassinations.
I did so because I follow such things somewhat closely and have never heard that Knight might know anything about Shakur's murder and the idea he might have been involved in the murder of his most profitable act is simply ludicrous without something to back it up. While a more detailed explanation of conspiracy theories regarding Knight and Biggie would be welcome, this is not neutral. The Snoop Dogg bit similarly should be part of info on exactly how Death Row imploded, as it is it smacks of propaganda, as though Snoop was such a honest and trustworthy man that his suspicion of Knight is evidence of guilt for some crime. The details of Death Row's demise are complicated and can not be summed up by a few sentence description of Knight's shadiness. Tuf-Kat
Sorry, I didn't mean to sound biased against Knight. I based my comments on that new Tupac/Biggie video that's out where they have a clip of a Suge Knight interview. The interviewer asks Knight if he'd let the cops know if he has information about who killed Tupac, and he replied "absolutely...not". I've also seen several MTV interviews where it's questioned. ______________________________________________________________________________________________
Well hmmm... here's an idea, how about we figure out how to factor into the article the fact that:
a) Marion Knight was exploiting Tupac Shakur in terms of denied payments, false accounting charges, and contract manipulations
b) Tupac Shakur was made aware of this around the same time he had finished the final album necessary to release him from his Death Row contract
c) Shakur had terminated his relationship with the Death Row attorney (aka advantage taking SOB) David Kenner in the days leading up to his death
d) Shakur was known to have been preparing for a variety of business moves: the establishment of an independent record label for distribution purposes; the establishment of a publishing house; the establishment of a film company. These claims are supported by specific trademark registrations made on behalf of Shakur as well as by first-hand accounts by several of Shakur's associates, both friendly to him and otherwise
e) The massive catalog of work which Tupac had produced during his days at Deathrow would follow Shakur as he departed from the Death Row agreement ... or, wait ... omg if he died, it would all stay! And ... and the profits could keep on coming ... and ... and Suge would show people in the industry who's really in charge!?!
f) Suge told Tupac to take of his bulletproof vest on the night of his shooting
g) Suge did not head for the nearest hospital after Tupac was shot in Vegas
h) Suge pulled Tupac back into the line of fire (or, his story 'pulled him down') after Tupac had tried to scatter into the back seat of the 7-series. Oh no no Mr. Shakur, it's much safter here in the front seat
i) And, just to cut off the line of argument before it enters your mind -- no, it really isn't that ballsy to call a hit on someone in the same car as you - the next time you pull up to someone at an intersection, realize how close you are to that other car. Now imagine if you got out of your car and aimed. There would be absolutely no difficult in shooting one but not the other passenger, especially the one closer to you. It's not amazing that Suge wasn't hit other than the grazing shot to his head -- it's a screwup that he was hit at all, even grazed.
We should figure out how to incorporate all of this into the article somehow ...
I've got it:
Suge Knight is a murderer. Thank God he's a washed up, no longer respected, financially failing murderer in 2005.
yeah I agree, he is an evil, bloodthrsty sadist.
This deserves mention in the front article, and it deserves mention if for no other reason than the fact that Suge's selfish and evil actions deprived the world of a leading light to young people across America ... to a talented individual who, for as much as he was a brilliant rapper, promised so much more for the nascent new millenial young man.
How about them apples?
I hope someone reads what I have written and has the time and inspiration to make Suge's absolute culpability known in the form of that front page article.
If no one else does so in the coming months, I'll make the changes.
ME
- Yeah I totally agree with you, but the front page is conclusive. Leave it be. -ingenio 6/19/06
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[edit] Football?
Please leave football as American football because of the way the name is associated in every other country, also it is known on Wikipedia as "American football" and should be treated as such. Cokehabit 10:23, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
I'm quite aware of this, although let's see if this latest ammendment works. If not maybe we can ammend it to include both terms since the type of football, albeit "American" football is assumed to be just "football" if you refer it in the context of that sentence (Raiders, NFL), that the assumed standard default is just "football", even in places outside of the U.S. and Canada. Drdr1989 17:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
Suge is also very fat. We forgot to add very ugly. Ugly and fat. These are facts.
[edit] Hyperlink
http://www.chocolatemagazine.co.uk/news.php?article=335 links to another article, About jessica alba and playboy. While this always makes my day, can somebody check this and give the correct link?
[edit] This article sucks
There, I said it. This article skips over the entire height of Suge Knight's career, instead delving deeplyinto crimes he may or may not have been implicated in. There's more that can be said about this guy than what is in here, and a lot of what is here probably shouldn't be. The development of Death Row really should have more attention paid to it in this article, for instance. Less gossip and more cited historical fact could go a long way here. JDoorjam Talk 04:08, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Revert
- MAY 5--Dogged by $12 million in tax liens and other legal judgments, rap music titan Marion "Suge" Knight is down to $11 in his checking accounts and the bling on his back, according to a bankruptcy court filing. The Death Row Records founder, who filed for Chapter 11 protection last month, claims that his $4.4 million in assets is dwarfed by $137.4 million in debt. He filed for bankruptcy shortly after being hit with a $100 million judgment in a lawsuit brought by a woman who claims she was instrumental in the founding of Death Row. According to schedules filed in U.S. District Court in Los Angeles (excerpts of which you'll find below), the 41-year-old Knight has no monthly income and meager asssets, including $25,000 in jewelry and clothing worth $1000. He also lists monthly expenses of about $30,000, the majority of which ($24,700) is earmarked for "alimony, maintenance, and support paid to others." While Knight's plight seems dire, his court filing lists as "unknown" the value of his interest in ten companies, including Death Row, Getto Records, and Blood Money Entertainment. We're not sure how Suge plans to emerge from bankruptcy, but perhaps the Bloods-affiliated producer could once again hang Vanilla Ice by his feet off a hotel balcony--only this time, he'll have to see if any change falls from the wack rapper's pockets.
The above was appended to the article by 144.131.204.70, but I removed it. Tim Ivorson 2006-06-23
[edit] involved in Easy E's death?
this article claims Knight was somehow involved in Easy E's death,BUT Easy E died of aids related illnesses,just how Knight could have mastermided this is beyond me!mabye he paid off easys chef to give him the flu or somting,or mabye is alot of nonsence.
- Someone must have confused Eazy E with Jam Master Jay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hypermagic (talk • contribs) 2006-08-01.
[edit] Chapter 11 bankruptcy
72.24.133.73 inserted "trustee's are NOT owners in chapter 11 bankruptcy." into <references>. I've moved it here because it doesn't belong there. Tim Ivorson 2006-08-13
[edit] canadian entrepenur but born in LA????
what?
[edit] Factual Errors up the yin-yang
The article says Suge Knight was born in BOTH Nova Scotia AND California? How is that possible? He was also most definitely not born in 1984. This article is in need of some dire fact-checking and cleanup, if not an outright rewrite. -RichNYC87
[edit] Vanilla Ice
What about the Vanilla Ice dangling incident?
[edit] Assailants August 2005
"Police say they have not been able to identify the would-be assailants, but they are still talking with eyewitnesses."? This happened over a year ago. There's got to be a hell of a lot of eyewitnesses if they are still interviewing them. --Lhademmor 10:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Involvement with 2pac-Biggie Murders
Some one should make an entry in this article with extensive citations to the rolling stone article that was published a while back. It mostly collects all the information regarding suge and the tupac-biggie murders. It can be found online here:
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story/8898338/the_unsolved_mystery_of_the_notorious_big/
