Talk:Subramanian Swamy

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Talk page for Subramanian Swamy

Contents 1 Did You Know? 2 Guoyeu or Hanyu 3 Bad stuff 4 Exploits Reference 5 Revert multiple edits on 15 December 2005 --> Explanation 6 Citizenship Act 7 Why is there no NPOV here??

[edit] Did You Know?

...that this article was featured on the Did You Know? section of the Main Page on 22 September 2005. The entry read "...that Dr.Subramanian Swamy worked towards normalizing relations between India & China and in 1981 he persuaded Deng Xiaoping to open the Kailash Mansarovar in Tibet to Hindu pilgrims from India? " --Gurubrahma 12:01, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Guoyeu or Hanyu

Hi, can someone knowledgeable throw light on what dialect of Chinese language, Dr. Subramanian Swamy was expert at? The page had Guoyeu before anon changed it to Hanyu. Asking just to confirm if it isn't a case of vandalism.....Gurubrahma 05:15, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bad stuff

Why is this article in a terrible state regarding NPOV? There is a lot of denigrating language about Swamy's opponents, as well as undue glorification. There is also a need for Wikification, modernization. - User:Rama's Arrow.

I don't know if this is bad stuff or badly written stuff. However, as a new user had added these exploits, I asked him to give the references as well as provide copyright info for the picture. I am yet to hear from him about the same. I've put a section-NPOV tag as the NPOV tag was placed above this section; I've removed the attention tag as it asks for a better tag to replace it, which the section-NPOV tag does so. --Gurubrahma 10:31, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

I think you or anyone else is entitled to move against this "Exploits" section, since it is so explicitly problematic. Any explanations from the user will not change the fact that its problematic.

I applied the "ATTENTION" tag becoz: This whole article is about a man who leads a party that barely wins 1 seat in parliament each time. he has done no special work in his life. Most Indian PMs have smaller bios here! Somebody has to strip down the crap and produce a legitimate article. - User:Rama's Arrow.

[edit] Exploits Reference

Hi all,

The exploits reference can be found in the following page:

Janata Party

The exploits have been placed because they are a integral part of Subramaniam Swamy, that made him famous. This is the same reason due to which the theory of relativity has been placed in the Albert Einstein section. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.56.193.118 (talk • contribs).

Well, I think that quote sort of summarizes why this article needs to be rewritten. All the three points in the exploits section needs to be backe dup with sources. As I suppose you may understand, refering back to the JP website won't do. --Soman 14:35, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Revert multiple edits on 15 December 2005 --> Explanation

I have reverted multiple edits by User:Gmauruthi as they are verbatim copyvio from [1]. This also does away the need for having the POV-section tag and factual accuracy tag inserted by other editors as the section itself is removed because of the copyvio. In the process, I've also reverted POV rant by an anon IP. The reversion has removed a fair-use image which I would not reinstate (as I'm not sure if it qualifies under fair use) and a link to Janata Party website which I would re-insert shortly. Trust this solves all the issues. --Gurubrahma 06:05, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Citizenship Act

If nobody can give me a reliable reference for the Sonia Gandhi story, I'm editing it out. Hornplease 17:51, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

It's been a week. No response, so its being edited out. Hornplease 06:07, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Why is there no NPOV here??

I do not understand why this article doesn't have an NPOV tag? As far as I can see the only references are either written by or associated with Dr Swamy himself. This is cause for serious concern. I am going to put in an NPOV tag here in a few days - however, I thought i'll put in a notice in the talk page before I do that. --Rev.bayes 19:56, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Added a reference that balances things a bit. Removing tag. Strangely hard to find something actually NPOV about Swamy, but every single reference to him in the papers seems to be accompanied with some sort of snide adjective. Usually 'maverick'. Hornplease 20:28, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, I still think that this article is in poor shape. What do we do about it? I don't know.. but definitely using information from Dr Swamy's website is not going to help us.. Right now, I won't revert the NPOV tag.. you have any suggestions on what we can do? write to me on my talk page.. --Rev.bayes 15:56, 25 August 2006 (UTC)