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[edit] AMC template

The reason why I got rid of the AMC Eagle SX/4 on the template was because the SX/4 was never sold as a standalone model; it was simply a performance-oriented trim level of the Eagle. Also, when you reverted the template back to your version, you also reverted some beneficial changes to the template. Please don't revert it back without incorporating some of the better changes I made. --ApolloBoy 00:56, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Then you will have to detail those changes because evidently they were not all that evident. I much prefer working with you, but I do not understand the "shortness" of the above comments, nor do I feel that they are warranted. I could have instructed you not to change the template without discussing the idea with me first, or at the very least an explaination of changes that you made without the courtesy of letting me know, but I respect your contributions. If you'd like to take the cooperative route in this, I'd prefer that to being ordered by you to do, or not to do something in the future. Stude62 01:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, for one, I fixed some errors you made while making the template. For example, you didn't leave enough space between the spacers (e.g. "[[this]] |[[that]]") and you accidentally included the manufacturer's name for both the AMC Ambassador and the Renault Encore. Also, when you reverted it, you also forgot to add in the AMC Matador, which I added in. BTW, I had no idea the Metropolitian was sold by AMC, so forgive me for omitting it from the list.

Hope that explains everything. =) --ApolloBoy 01:31, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, thats better. Look, I really respect your talents, but the original post hit me wrong. Stude62 01:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Explorer

Hi, Stude62. I see you edited the Ford Explorer, but I am still not of the opinion that it should be mentioned on the list so, if you don't mind I am going to remove the Explorer from the list. Thank you. Signature^brendel 04:38, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Brendel- Thats fine. I was just trying to clean up what Karmann posted. What is on the list isn't an issue for me, however how it is listed (hyperspeak, etc.) is a huge issue. But thanks for the heads up! Stude62 15:35, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Congratulations

I, ApolloBoy, hereby award the Technology Barnstar to Stude62 for his great work on post-war automobiles! Congratulations on your hard work! --ApolloBoy 05:30, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it! I've just been so amazed with all the high quality work you've done regarding post-war cars, that I thought it was time you deserved a Barnstar. =)--ApolloBoy 01:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another Barnstar

Thanks Stude62. Your contributions have really made a difference in the world of Wikipedia’s car articles. Thanks also for your valuable involvement in the auto project discussions. Such hard work deserves a tireless contributer barnstar as well. So, thank you. Signature^brendel 03:01, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About Take Me Higher...

Ever since you posted another warning on his talk page, I've noticed he's been uploading more poor quality images and essentially ignoring our requests for higher quality pictures. Do you think it would be appropriate to place an RfC on him now? --ApolloBoy 05:59, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

I've been thinking the same thing. I've been thinking about this along the lines of:

1) the quality of the images, which are consistently poor;

2) the file size of the images, which are way too big;

3) the number of unsourced images;

4) the user's unresponsiveness to items on his post page;

5) the user's unfamiliarity with Wikipedia basics (how to sign talk pages, etc.)

but... I also think that the RfC has to also emphasize that this user has a very evident passion for the topic. Personally, I really believe that in their mind that they are attempting to make a positive contribution. Unfortunatly, he/she is doing it in a manner that is without improvement, even an attempted improvement. One other thing, is there anything that we can extend to the user that can be of supportive benefit to them if they indicate that they are willing to work towards improvement? Again, let me know what you decide to do. Stude62 13:09, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edsel

Actually, the reson I switched templates was that the combination was terribly ugly. Actually, though, the problem wouldreside in {{edsel}} itself, which I will now proceed to rework.Circeus 21:51, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Maybe it's just me, but larger templates should not appear above smaller one. Circeus 21:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Visual consistency is still good. Check the new version. It doesn't hog screenspace anymore. Circeus 22:08, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edsel wagons

I don't understand why you reverted my change. What did you mean by "with a station wagon, it is implied that the vehicle has a tailgate unlike a four-door sedan with a hatchgate"? The reason I made the change in the first place, was to point out that the Roundup was a two door model. I thought that was an interesting detail, since almost all station wagons are four-doors. (Please reply here) Freekee 04:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Because when you name things, the name tells people what they need to know. The definition of a station wagon is "n. An automobile having an extended interior with a third seat or luggage platform and a tailgate." So while telling people how many doors the vehicle has applies to passenger doors, it is unnecessary to also add that a station wagon as a rear gate as well. The gate is part of the definition. Now when one talks about the Mazda 6, this is a range that includes a four-door sedan, station wagon, and five-door sedan (the fifth door denotes that this is a hatchback). Stude62 15:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Okay, that's fine. I wasn't really sure whether to refer to it as a four-door or a five-door, as I've seen sometimes, so I put in the parenthetical note about the tailgate, to clarify. If you say that's not necessary, that's good enough for me. But I'd like to differentiate between the two-door and foor door wagons, like was done for the other models. Freekee 17:04, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RfC

Whatever you think is best. I really don't like the idea of an RfC either but we've given multiple warnings and Take Me Higher hasn't stopped. I too have become annoyed with Take Me Higher's unwillingness discuss it. If I had to choose between yes or no, I'd probably say yes there should be an RfC because even digital camera images of better quality presented by Take Me Higher and other users are still of inferior quality than promotional images found on the manufacturers or consumer websites. Bavaria 17:07, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

It seems as if Take Me Higher has stopped uploading images as of late. --ApolloBoy 01:54, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Now it looks like TMH has started uploading images again, what do you think of the new ones? --ApolloBoy 01:39, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

I've already listed TMH here, I need you to help me out with the actual RfC. Also, thanks for your input on the recent images; I agree with you on how the overall quality of his images hasn't changed much. --ApolloBoy 02:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

That sounds like a good idea to me. --ApolloBoy 23:47, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jim Petro

Greetings, Stude62!
Thanks very much for your praise. Glad to see someone's noticing my labors here.
I see what you mean about this article. It looks like a rehash of an official biography. It does need work. However, to research it to the level I'd like is a big undertaking because Petro has been in public life for so long and the number of articles the databases will turn up will be staggering. I can't promise anything, but I will try to do something with it--at the very least rewrite this.
However, my main project right at the moment is my revision of my Bricker Amendment article, which I am completely rewriting in the hopes of sending it to FAC. Did you see my article on the incumbent lieutenant governor, Bruce Johnson, is now a featured article? PedanticallySpeaking 16:13, 27 March 2006 (UTC) (P.S. How, when your main interest is apparently cars, did you come to this particular article?)

Stumbled on Petro from Paul Hackett's article. Used to work in DeWine's Congressional office in 1983 - I was a student from Muskingum College on Honors at American University. Paul and I were in the same Seminar and the lot of us used to hang out together. So when Paul was planning on running against Mike, it set up quite a quandry. Stude62 17:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] user:207.164.171.148

You asked, "Given the activity today, do you feel that its likely that this IP address will get blocked?" Well, the first thing I notice is that none of this person's edits are classic vandalism. For someone like me who knows nothing about automobiles, I can't even be sure that they're illegitimate. Obviously, this user has a serious problem with sources, and needs to be yelled at again about how rude it is to make edits without explanation. I took on a guy like that recently who was messing with Cincy articles. I only got him blocked when he started leaving insulting messages. If they don't reveal themselves like that, though, there's pretty much no case for blocking someone for WP:CITE violations. --M@rēino 22:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Old archives

Just wanted to drop a note and let you know that I moved an old Talk page you had archived at Wikipedia talk:Stude62/archive1 to your own user space instead at /archive0. Didn't think you'd mind. You might want to request a speedy delete on the old page by placing this tag on it (with your own explanation, of course): {{db|reason}}. (Right now it's a redirect to the new location.) Have a great day! :-) ⇒ BRossow ^T/_C 14:32, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikifying dates

Hi, I saw the edits that you made on the DeSoto (automobile) article. Just as a heads up, we generally do not wiki-link dates unless there is a reason to do so that is relevant to material in the article itself. Over linking can be distracting for the reader. Stude62 20:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi there. Thanks for your note. You're right that it was a bit much. I've gone through different phases of turning dates into links, and it seems every phase has met with someone's objection. :-) At first, I made everything a link, including month-day dates, year-only dates, and month-day-year dates. Then I got the idea that that was a bit much, and so I started only making the first mention of each date in an article a link—or the first mention in a long while if it had occurred earlier in the article but much earlier. But, then, I noticed that not linking years in month-day-year dates meant that the date formatting wasn't being changed according to the reader's date preference. So my practice now is to link only the first mention of a date when it's JUST a year, but to link every date that is in the complete, month-day-year form. Anyway:

• 1. You're right about the DeSoto article; my edit resulted in too many year links.
• 2. I buy two arguments about distraction: one is that too many links in the text are annoying; the other is that it's annoying to be curious about a term (even a date) in an article and to have to look it up manually instead of just clicking on a cross-reference. I try to balance these.
• 3. If I get too explanatory in this note, just ignore it. I tend to be this way.

Thanks again. President Lethe 21:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Eh, don't mention it. Keep up the good work ;-) Stude62 00:43, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for doing that so I didn't have to do it ... AGAIN. BTW, did you get my email? ⇒ BRossow ^T/_C 12:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shooting break

Okay, I see its an old term. I added a mention that its not commonly used anymore. I'm from Germany and spend lots of time in the benelux and have never heard the term to describe a, say, 1999 E-Class Wagon. I didn't know it was only used in reference to the old woodies. I just don't want a Candian or American tourist going to Eurocar rental at Schiphol airport and ask for a shooting break ;-) Thanks. Regards, Signature^brendel 14:46, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

No biggie! Stude62 15:06, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re : Request blocking a user for vandalism

Saw your question on Johnleemk's talkpage, so thought I may answer on his behalf. Yes they can be blocked again, so long as they are issued another warning after the block has expired, and the vandalism continues. You can report them at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism, in which any sysop will sort out the rest for you. - Best regards, Mailer Diablo 16:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Marshall Teague edit

I didn't mean to offend, apologies for that.

It seemed to me that, most likely, Category:Racecar drivers was more specific than Category:Automotive related biography. And then, taken another step further, that NASCAR/F1 were more specific than Category:Automotive related biography. Does those seem inaccurate?

It's a new category, its role is still open to interpretation, I think. Please feel free to explain what your intentions/interpretations of the category are. I don't really want to twist it to any specific meaning, though I think the naming can imply what I was saying above.

Also, I'm trying to create Category:Automotive people stubs right now, and if these new categories overlap a little bit, then whatever Category:Automotive related biography is interpretted as may affect the stub category too. --Interiot 02:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

• • No problem - you didn't offend - just over-wikified my brain yesterday and why, I'll never know. Actually your approach makes the most sense, but I still feel that there should be a classification for executives, designers and those whose particpation in the busines drove (in the figurative) the auto industry. Unlike other drivers of the era, Teague was different. But I'll go along with your approach. Stude62 14:32, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

I left more comments for you on the article's talk page. Royalbroil 03:51, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edsel articles

Hi there again, I went through the Edsel articles today and made some great improvements to them. Please respond if I missed something or reworded something incorrectly. Thanks! --ApolloBoy 03:56, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use

Firstly, you should assume good faith, and not revert my edits until you've left a message. Secondly, read WP:FUC. Our fair use policy isn't based solely on law, and it specifically bans the use of fair use images on templates (#9). ed g2s • talk 20:58, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Personally, I think you should assume good faith as well by clearly commenting on your edits. Secondly, I have gone through the policy and it doesn't speak to logos of defunct corporations. So I would ask before you remove these that the matter be put up for discussion. In several of the templates, your removal of the logo also removed the text for which the logo is for. I understand that policies need to be enforce, but I feel that the manner in which you did it, without discussion was the wrong approach. Stude62 21:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Defunct corporations' logos are still fair use, the policy talks about how to treat fair use images, not what a fair use image is. Brief edit comments have nothing to do with bad faith. ed g2s • talk 21:11, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Defunct coprorations have no legal standing - they cease to exist under US law. And yes, I consider abbreviations on edit comments to be bad faith, especially when someone has spent a great deal of time working on something only to see it removed without any explaination. Showing good faith would have been to have at least dropped something on the items talk page explaining your action, something that you failed to do in your haste to wipe the image off. May I suggest that you place yourself in other people's shoes and view the action from their standpoint. As it is, I viewed your action as arbitrary as it was handled. Stude62 21:18, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

When you don't understand someone's edit, you should ask, not revert. The logo of a defunct corportaion will still not be usuable. And yes, I was batch editing about 30 similar templates at the time, so it was would've taken too much time. ed g2s • talk 21:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

And when you go in and alter something, you have a responsbility to clarify why you are doing this. Taken too much time? Since when are good manners not important, and not part of Wikipedia? If you value efficiency over helping people understand why doing something, you will find no support from me on that matter. As far as winning me over with your arguments, you've lost that opportunity. Stude62 21:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry you misinterpreted the tone of my comment and took offence. I have a lot of respect for the work you do, and some close family friends are autistic, so to say that I am being cruel is rather insensitive. I was pointing out that your argument about the need for images to help autistic children is not a valid one, and for those who don't need the visual cue - it is also invalid. ed g2s • talk 19:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Let me try an explain this as best as I can. You have a habit of placing a great deal on the shoulders of others and taking on very little responsibility for your own actions. When it came to removing the images without even a courtesy note on that template's talk page, I, according to you, was at fault because I couldn't understand your shorthand and then you accussed me of showing bad faith. When it comes to alternative forms of learn, you refuse to even consider the other person's plight, instead you state its not Wikipedia's job to be a teaching tool. When it came to my reading your words as they read, even though you apologize, you do so at my expense. As a Syops, you have to have the maturity to play by the rules that you expect others to play by, and you have demonstrate the ability to think qualitativly, not just quantitativly. Frankly, I have the impression that you see the world as you do and expect everyone else to do the same. I've really spent as much time on this as I care to. I wish you well in life. Stude62 19:50, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

"I, according to you, was at fault", your fault was reverting before asking. If one is confused by someone else 'sedits, they should try and understand them before reverting them. That is what I meant by "assume good faith". To say that I don't consider another person's plight is a tad unfair. I think Gmaxwell has addressed this issue well on my talk page. ed g2s • talk

I'm sorry, but you altered the template without any kind explaination on the talk page, because, as you put it it would have taken too much time. I reverted it because it looked like vandalism. Is it my fault that I don't have access to your set of expectations and mannerism, hardly. Again, I wish you well in life. As for Gmaxwell's comments, they are his, that you feel vindicated by them isn't surprising, they support you. Now once again, I wish you well. Stude62 23:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Stude62, excuse me for being so straightforward about it, but I think you got a bit too emotional about this issue, which easily distracts the attention from the actual topic of the discussion (or is a good reason to "forget" important vital arguments and not discuss about them). I understand you totally and feel sorry that you had to be upset and partially offended during this debate. Nevertheless, I think that nobody wants the essence of this discussion to get lost under "personal attack" labelling.

I also want to state that I find it inappropriate to remove all images from templates en masse without, as I assume, formally warning the Wikipedians involved in their creation and development - I see no warning on talk pages of the templates I checked, and also the Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles, which groups the Wikipedians concerned. It was a mass deletion aimed specifically at all , which is evident when you check the logo on the Template:General Motors brands, which by mistake was not included in this group. Previously warning Wikipedians concerned, in order for them to be able to discuss the matter and, if necessary, elaborate substitute solutions, would have been much more appropriate IMHO. --Bravada 23:57, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

No, you aren't being forward, you are being quite correct and a good friend for doing so. I am withdrawing from this discussion on fair use, because I really feel that regardless of what happens, Wikipedia users won't be served well. Good manners prevents me from placing my feelings about the other person on a Wikipedia page, suffice it to say that I am thinking of a particular Dorothy Parker quote at this moment involving thorns. Stude62 00:05, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Stude62, thank you for the barnstar. I am happy that you found my argument appropriate, but I don't think this really deserves any special recognition. I don't feel like I did anything else that everybody else in the discussion. Feel free to remove the barnstar and save for the time when I will really deserve one (which I hope to one day ;) . --Bravada 19:34, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

I will not remove it. What you said was accurate, and very kind; it deserves recognition. Stude62 19:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Stude62, I want to thank you for your email here. I tried to reply by email too, but for some reason my email server seems unable to deliver the message. Anyway - I hope you had a Happy Easter :D Bravada 12:50, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gremlin mid-size v. compact

Copied from User talk:Rsduhamel

I have reverted your addition to the Gremlin article that mentions a mid-size Hornet. The Gremlin was was a subcompact, and the Hornet was classified as a compact in 1970 based on the Government (and insurance company) standards of the day. I suggest that you add the mid-size discussion as a footnote, noting that based on current "day standards..." Stude62 12:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

If this is correct (and I'm not disputing it) the articles on car sizes should be clearly edited to note the changes in standards over the years. I'm basing my arguement that the Hornet was a mid-size car because the wheelbase is the primary standard cited in the Wikipedia articles. Consistancy would help. Rsduhamel 01:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

I understand. But I really think that the statement should be on the Hornet page, not the Gremlin. Stude62 02:11, 12 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Troublesome image uploading user

I feel your pain. For a mediation to begin, the user must be willing to communicate with other users. We do not even start a mediation unless at least two opposed parties agree to mediate. I would start off by putting a message on the user's discussion page. If no response, let us know, and you will go to a RFC. Fahrenheit451 20 April 2006

• • OK, will try it. I really do not want an RfC if at all possible, Stude62 01:56, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Take Me Higher RfC

I personally have trouble making sense of a lot of TakeMeHigher edits. On one hand, his written edits tend to be mostly good, while others are not. He recently added a made-up nonsense statment to the Lincoln LS article, but two days later revamp the Lexus GS article and did a good job. Of course then there is the picture issue. He has actually uploaded one good picture to the Lincoln Town Car article (1985 TC), but overall seems to ignore requests for his pictures to be of higher quiality or add appropriate copyright tags. I find many of edits to contradict themselves in terms of quality. As you have presented TakeMeHigher with the problem and possiblity of an RfC I think we should wait a day (if he continues to contribute, meaning he is likely to have read the comment). Otherwise I will support your argument as his bad picture uploads seem (and the fact that he doesn't respond to them) seem to outweigh his good edits. Sharing your concern, Signature^brendel 23:17, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Automobile image quality standards

I welcome your input on Wikipedia:WikiProject Automobiles/Conventions#Images. --SFoskett 18:16, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Question

I have a similar issue, but I don't know where to go with it, so let me seek advice of a more senior collague :D Now, User:Shyrish surfaced on April 18th and began editing Japanese vehicles articles by adding links to a site called "amayama.com". He also did two or three minor edits to body texts and also informed the viewers of the Isuzu Aska articles that "Wikimedia Commons has media related to: Methane" (sic!), but that's not that important here.

My problem is that "my" Isuzu articles already contained links to specs on Histomobile, Carfolio or Global Car Locator, which find usually more informative and more user-friendly than Amayama. He seems really inclined on including those amayama references in articles of his choice, but to me it looks like an attempt to promote the site. What would you advise me to do? --Bravada 13:21, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

You've have a couple options:

• • • First I'd place a question on his talk page and ask hime why he made the edit and then wait 24 hours; if there is no response, then I would revert the edit and do a follow-up posting stating why you made the revert.
    • Second, if you believe that the edit is attempting to promote something commercial, do the revert and simply state "Revert edit by XXXXX" and then let them know why you believe that the link was commercial and how Wikipedia doesn't allow for the promotion of a product or service, or allow articles to be used for the purose of promotion. If you do this, then you have to provide a link to the appropriate Wikipedia policy.

I would also invite him to discuss this with you. If he keeps inserting the site, and you feel its a problem, you can also do a request for comment on the article and see what that proffers.

I really hate RfC's on people though - I was shallaced in our a year ago by a user and his sock puppets, so I know that they can get really ugly. So if I did one on TMH, I'd want it carefully controlled so that the matter stays on the issue of poor images and communication problems.

As for the Methane, thats pure vandalism. Stude62 13:35, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

Thx, I will just do that. No-brainer, shouldn't have bothered you... As concerns Methane, it's not vandalism I believe, it's amateur editing (who can't be accused of some) with a very funny result, if you like absurd humour :D --Bravada 14:48, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response

Stude62, I responded to your comments on my talkpage. Scheinwerfermann 14:23, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RFC for TAke Me Higher

I have filed an RFC report against Take Me Higher.Please help me fill it out. --Karrmann

OK, Stude62, I wholeheartedly agree with you guys. The Dodge Ram image is the absolute low bottom here! I hope I signed in the right place - please tell me if it's not the case (I didn't have any direct issues with TMH concerning images, but he sometimes edited articles I have on my watchlist with mixed results, to say the least) Bravada Talk to me! 19:40, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Stude62, the RfC looks fine. Good on putting the evidence images there. They are clearly amateurish snapshots. Fahrenheit451 20:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: Take me higher

It was just a comment, I wasn't endorsing the RFC. The instructions said to put non-endorsements on the talk page. If you want to mention it somewhere on the RFC itself, go ahead. Phr 00:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I wasn't asking for an endorsement of the RfC, I was inviting you to add the comment to RFC page. If you'll look towards the end of the page there is a place for outside comments, and adding this comment there would neither endorse or otherwise state disapproval, its simply a place on the page for these types of comments. Stude62 02:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] car photos

I have to raise a specific technical point about one of your comments to Take Me Higher: I think there's general policy over on Commons that all images should be uploaded at the highest resolution available, not scaled down as you suggested. Yes, that burns disk space on the server, but the cost of disk space these days is near zero. It doesn't take any extra download time for users reading articles (assuming they're presented at reasonable size), since the versions displayed in articles are scaled on the server side and the user only sees the much smaller version. So I hope you'll upload your own images at full resolution if you haven't been doing that. Phr 01:49, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I really have to invite you state your comments on the RfC talk page. Keeping all of the discussions in one area benefits everyone, and as in the past, I encourage you to particpate in the process. Stude62 02:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

I saw this particular comment as being clutter there. It's about a narrow topic not specific to the rfc. Perhaps you could update your comment. Phr 02:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Very well then. As for the technical merits, the user in question includes too much collateral space on their images, thus when the upload them, there is a very large image of the surroundings, rather than get in close to the subject and have it fill the frame. Secondly, the physical size of the images, for the quality of the subjects is simply too large. I agree that he should be loading them to the commons. When I take original images myself, I will add them to the commons. When I upload fair-use images, I'll save them Wikipedia. Stude62 02:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Yes, fair use images have to go on en rather than commons. Yes, shots should be composed tightly when possible. Yes, server space, while very large, is not infinite. However I wanted to make sure you knew that large uploads doesn't mean large downloads when the shots are viewed inside articles. See here about sizing guidelines for uploads. Obviously for really awful shots, uploading at full res may not be worth it, but for salvageable ones, you want the best available version to start with. Phr 02:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Time for Spring cleaning...

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[edit] User:Rananim

Hi Stude62 — I haven't seen you around in a while.

My discussion with Rananim concluded with us agreeing that all previous references to his real name would be moved to User:Rananim. as far as I know, this is still true: e.g. Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Rananim is still where it ought to be. We came to no agreement as to what he would call himself next, and I didn't ask for any. I believe in a wiki user's right to vanish — indeed, I told Rananim to find a new name and never to tell me it.

As such, unless old archives are getting messed with yet again (which was the only thing I was bothered with in the first place) I neither know nor am particularly worried about any persona he may be now. Let sleeping dogs lie: if some new user is being a prick, or is not abiding by some rule, deal with it as you'd deal with anyone else. Otherwise, assume good faith and assume this new user is someone you've never met before.

Sorry if that wasn't the answer you were looking for, — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 01:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

Asbestos-There was no answer that I was looking for, just a statement of fact. I'm still on guard for a number of reasons. I too believe that a Wikipedian has a right to "vanish", but the easiest way to do that is to stop using a screen name, not simply shuffle history around. As for good faith, I have as much as I can muster. I do not want to engage him, but I also do not want to be surprised inthe future. Stude62 01:55, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I guess it's slightly more confusing than I first thought. Let me get back to you. — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 02:17, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

It might be a good idea - I see where he removed a reference to Cornell on his RFC, as well as statements made by other Wikipedians. I don't believe that allowing him to remove sections of text was part of the agreement, simply the conversion of his former name to all Rananim. I've always been under the impression that while its one thing to perform a minor edit on someone elses legitimate statement. But blanking paragraphs by other users (User:Jmabel in this case) isn't looked upon very well by the Wikipedia community - especially in RFCs where the subject is editing comments made by those who are the subject of the RfC itself. Stude62 19:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit question

Hi- I see where you performed an edit in one of talk archives - the original post was dated 29 January 1995[1]. Can I ask why the edit was made, a year and almost three months later? I guess I'm asking because it hasn't been my expirience that many third parties tend to go through old talk archives editing things like this, especially since I don't remember you as being involved in the dicussion. Thanks in advance. Stude62 19:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

I was working on Wikipedia:WikiProject Fix common mistakes and the archive in question had "I think I'll stick with with rananimm". two withs in it. All I was doing was correcting a typo. Harryboyles 00:21, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

And I also noticed that you above put 29 January 1995 as the date. It's meant to be 2005. Wikipedia only started 5 years ago, in 2001. Just proves the point. Harryboyles 00:26, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

What point? Stude62 14:25, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] After the RfC

Stude62, If there is consensus that the images in question are substandard, then I suggest they be removed, and preferably, replaced with good quality images. If the user in question reverts them, then I suggest a Request for Arbitration. Please retain the comments from the RfC as evidence of consensus for the arbitration. If you prevail in the arbitration, then an administrator can take action to delete the images and ban the user from editing automobile articles. --Fahrenheit451 20:00, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Stude62 22:04, 30 April 2006 (UTC)