User talk:Stude62

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Please note that I am no longer active on Wikipedia as of November 21, 2006.

If you need to contact me, you can email me - but don't hold your breath on a reply. I am officially retiring from Wikipedia having found that life without it in the last six months has been blessedly simple, carefree and without the constant needling by the Wikipedia Policy Police. So erase the whole lot if need be - I'm done.

Posts previous to March 20, 2006 can be found at User talk:Stude62/archive1 Posts previous to April 27, 2006 can be found at User talk:stude62/archive2

Contents 1 re {{Dodge}} 2 Image copyright problem with Image:Plymouthname.png 3 Image Tagging Image:Plymouthname.png 4 Image tagging for Image:CarrieFultonPhillips.jpg 5 Replaceable fair use images 6 Image:MercuryMeteor8001961.jpg 7 Grazon 8 Image:1954studechampstar.jpg

[edit] re {{Dodge}}

My bad then, I had no way of knowing from just looking at the template, and you have to admit such cases or reconstruction are pretty rare ;-) Circeus 02:53, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

No biggie - but it does help to take a look at the image description. Anyway, I created the image because one of the self appointed "fair use" police threw a hissy fit when we had logos on the templates. He was so inflexible on even listening to anything having to do examining the policy that I knew that there was a work around in the public domain. So again, no biggie ;-) Stude62 23:34, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

this is beyond irritating; i get something about some kind of new message about Dodge? then what am i supposed to do with that? it was clearly not appropriate to send me this and then I piss away all thius time trying to clear it up>?

[edit] Image copyright problem with Image:Plymouthname.png

Thanks for uploading Image:Plymouthname.png. However, the image may soon be deleted unless we can determine the copyright holder and copyright status. The Wikimedia Foundation is very careful about the images included in Wikipedia because of copyright law (see Wikipedia's Copyright policy).

The copyright holder is usually the creator, the creator's employer, or the last person who was transferred ownership rights. Copyright information on images is signified using copyright templates. The three basic license types on Wikipedia are open content, public domain, and fair use. Find the appropriate template in Wikipedia:Image copyright tags and place it on the image page like this: {{TemplateName}}.

Please signify the copyright information on any other images you have uploaded or will upload. Remember that images without this important information can be deleted by an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, or ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --Durin 19:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The license and description for this image that I created and properly licensed was blanked by an anonymous user. I have restored the proper text that was blanked in May, and noted who did it. Stude62 23:35, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging Image:Plymouthname.png

This media may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:Plymouthname.png. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page.

If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{fairusein|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use.

If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --Durin 19:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

The license and description for this image that I created and properly licensed was blanked by an anonymous user. I have restored the proper text that was blanked in May, and noted who did it. Stude62 23:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image tagging for Image:CarrieFultonPhillips.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:CarrieFultonPhillips.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:

• Wikipedia:Image use policy
• Wikipedia:Image copyright tags

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 09:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Replaceable fair use images

[edit] Image:MercuryMeteor8001961.jpg

This file may be deleted.

Thanks for uploading Image:MercuryMeteor8001961.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a free image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

1. Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}
2. On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. – Quadell ^{(talk) (random)} 13:33, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Also Image:MercuryMeteor1961.jpg, Image:ChevImpCap1965.jpg, and any other non-free images of cars you may have uploaded.

[edit] Grazon

Grazon has been indefinitely blocked. You can visit his user page for some of the gory details. —12.72.72.184 10:57, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:1954studechampstar.jpg

Thanks for uploading Image:1954studechampstar.jpg. I notice the 'image' page specifies that the image is being used under fair use, but its use in Wikipedia articles fails our first fair use criterion in that it illustrates a subject for which a freely licensed image could reasonably be found or created. If you believe this image is not replaceable, please:

1. Go to the image description page and edit it to add {{Replaceable fair use disputed}}, without deleting the original Replaceable fair use template.
2. On the image discussion page, write the reason why this image is not replaceable at all.

Alternatively, you can also choose to replace the fair use image by finding a freely licensed image of its subject or by taking a picture of it yourself.

If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified how these images fully satisfy our fair use criteria. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on this link. Note that any fair use images which are replaceable by free-licensed alternatives will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. --Sherool (talk) 11:19, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Well the fact that it could be replaced by a free photo pretty much means if fail Wikipedia's fair use criterea (wich is significantly stricter than the letter of the law seeing as we are a free content project) by default these days (see Wikipedia talk:Fair use for lengthy debates on the subject). The current status of the company is for the most part irrelevant since someone (even if we don't know who) will own the copyright to the work untill it expire. One thing to investigate would be if the photo was originaly published without a copyright notice or if a copyright registration was renewed (as required in scertain periods). There is a deacent chance they did not bother with all the red tape for a simple piece of ephemera so it may have lapsed into the public domain on a "technicality" depending on when it was published and if a notice was present or not[1]. Trick is to dig up such info this long after the fact for something like this (easier with movies and such).

It is unfortunate that a lot of content contributed in good faith over the years are beeing "wiped out" over things like this, upsetting good contributors in the process, but I think it's ultimately for the better in the long term. The project have done a good job creaing ~1,4 million (and growing fast) articles of free licensed text (save the ocational copyvio). However the image situation is "worse", close to half of the ~600,000 images on enWiki are some form of fair use (and much of the rest is downright mislabeled), and while a lot of it is perfectly "legit" (both with policy and law), there is a significant number of images that could fairly easily be replaced with a bit of effort (and no doubht a lot of borderline cases). For a long time the approach have been to "gently" encourage such replacements to be made, but with very little progres. Even when free images exist within the same article a lot of people still tend to add fair use images "because it's allowed". There has been a long standing policy to not use fair use when free alternatives actualy exist, but it's only rely been enforced in featured articles and often bogged down in arguments about wether or not it's rely an "alternative" since it's not as good quality etc. Hence the more "heavy handed" and "anal" policy beeing enforced today to "force the issue". I realise it can be frustrating, and take some getting used to, but I hope it won't turn you off from contributing entierly. There is a logic beyond rampant deletionism behind it. --Sherool (talk) 08:11, 22 November 2006 (UTC)