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I removed the following from the article because I really don't think RPG stats belong in Wikipedia. Since large numbers of these "vital stats" sections have been added to various articles, I'm using Talk:Strength level (comics) to discuss this issue in general. Bryan 08:29, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Changes/History 2 Vital Statistics 3 Storm no longer played by Halle Berry 4 possible origin of the Storm character 5 Changed Title Image 6 Gambit Romance 7 Ultimate Storm 8 It is Gaea 9 The narration in Classic X-Men#20 indicates that Gaea came to Storm's rescue 10 Appearances in other media 11 Relation to Spyke 12 Another possible origin 13 Unbelievably beautiful actress? 14 first? 15 Omega? 15.1 Possible Omega 15.2 Alternate Reality Phoenix 16 Merge 16.1 Survey 16.2 Discussion 17 Immunity to the weather 18 Dracula? 19 Ororo's Witch Heritage 20 Really in need of cleanup 21 Hacked-out fictional bio 21.1 Early life 21.2 X-Men 21.3 Perennial Leadership 21.4 Relationships 21.5 Marriage 22 Is her relationship with Black Panther a retcon? 23 Quick-fail 24 GA on hold 24.1 Assessment so far 25 GA awarded

[edit] Changes/History

It seems to me that many people are editing this article and removing information without giving reason as to why they believe their edits are justified. The talkpage is supposed to be where we can all agree as to what the content of the page will be and edit accordingly. Please list or attempt to explain why some content should be added or taken away in future posts. 63.249.112.124 03:18, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

The abilities and powers section was edited by an unknown user. I re-edited it to make it a little cleaner and less rough. They took out references to Storm being an ecopath as well as the time Storm spent in limbo training Illyana Rasputin in white magic. I also changed that "other versions" section header to read "alternate versions" because I feel it's more accurate in the description of the alternate reality versions of Storm who exist in other parts of the marvel multiverse. 63.249.112.124 03:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

New discussion topics go at the bottom of the page

Grammar update in the "powers and abilities" section. I changed the phrase, "she was able to calm the planets elements and heal the planets ozone layer" to read "she was able to calm the planet's elements and heal the planet's ozone layer." The former referred to the plural while the latter is possessive. See Rules of Correct Grammar. Also, "( issue see 'Storm front' )" is an improper citation and I could not find the x-men comic with that title. I checked google, the Marvel Website as well as Uncannyxmen.net. I feel it should be removed unless a comic book volume number and issue number can be located. 24.23.177.235 19:12, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

How come there was no mention of the period of time when Storm lost her powers? This was very integral to the relationship she had with Rogue and her role as leader of the X-Men even though she didn't have mutant powers!

[edit] Vital Statistics

• Real Name: Ororo Munroe
• Aliases: Windrider
• Group affiliations: X-Men, Morlocks (former)
• Height: 5 ft. 11 in.
• Weight: 127 lbs.
• Eyes: Blue
• Hair: White
  • Intelligence: Above Normal
  • Strength: Athlete
  • Speed: Subsonic
  • Reflexes: Athlete
  • Agility: Athlete
  • Stamina: Athlete
  • Endurance: Athlete, with some superhuman resistance to the elements.
  • Other powers: Storm has the psionic ability to control the weather over limited areas. She can fly by creating winds strong enough to support her weight. Storm has limited immunity to extreme heat and cold. Storm is an exceptional strategist, tactician, hand-to-hand combatant, and thief, excelling at picking locks.

• Note: Storm is claustraphobic.
• Source of powers: Benevolent mutation.

[edit] Storm no longer played by Halle Berry

I just put in that Halle Berry quite/got fired (??) due to a complaint by her about her little screen time.

Unfortunately, we're still stuck with her as of now, and I assume it's permanent. Rattlerbrat 14:29, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] possible origin of the Storm character

The character Storm may have been a derival from actual real-life people called Rain Queens since she controlled the weather as they are believed to do. The Rain Queens of Balobedu are a matrilineal line of women who have reigned over the Balobedu Tribe of the Limpopo Province of South Africa. It is said that Rain Queens have the ability to control the clouds and rainfall. Currently there is no ruling Rain Queen as the previous Rain Queen has recently passed away.

Having debuted at a time when memories of Star Trek's Lt. Uhura were still fresh, Storm's status as a black female with a similar name and Kenyan origins may not be coincidental. In any case, she may well be the first black, female superhero of any note and remains the most popular. - I doubt the Lt. Uhura was intentional. I've read in an old issue of Wizard that Dave Cockrum originally intended Storm to be a male character, while the black female would be called Tabitha and be able to transform into a cat. --Pc13 15:22, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I really don't think Uhura has anything to do with this article, especially not as a heading!

[edit] Changed Title Image

I put up Storm's UXM #449 cover again. Personally, the art is of better quality and shows the character more attractively.

[edit] Gambit Romance

Does anyone know anything about this that would be worth contributing beyond that they met when she was dating Forge? Gambit and Storm shared a kiss in "Intifada," the X-Treme X-Men trade paperback, I think it was volume 6. A romantic link between these two has always been implied, but not typically acted on.Cee 00:13, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

She's had romantic links with other characters as well. She's been in relationships with both Wolverine and Nightcrawler recently. --DrBat 01:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

The Storm/Gambit "relationship" first started out after Gambit found the de-aged Storm when she was robbing homes. I believe she had gotten in over her head with one owner and Gambit helped her out and became her partner of sorts. Soon after, Storm rejoined with the X-Men and Gambit came along with her. Their relationship has seen a kiss or two in its time, but it generally has not passed beyond that. I believe their relationship rests as a friendly brother/sister relationship. Assuming she has not found out of Gambit's betrayal in recent issues. I believe, however, that Forge believed Ororo was dead when the X-Men were stationed in Australia. So Gambit and Storm did not meet when she was dating Forge. 68.51.57.237 18:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ultimate Storm

The Ultimate Storm info section is a little lacking, and seems to be cut off..

[edit] It is Gaea

Classic X-Men#20 has narration stating that "Mother Nature---Mother Earth, the mother of us all---is the only other parent you [Storm] have acknowledged....". So Storm does worship Gaea, who is Mother Earth.

"However, whether people believe her to be real or not, when they refer to Mother Nature or Mother Earth, they are speaking about Gaea."

http://web.archive.org/web/20041021224953/http://www.immortalthor.net/bio-gaea.html

Enda80 20:43, 11 March 2006 (UTC)Enda80

Just because Storm believes in an earth-mother deity doesn't mean that that deity exists, or if it does, that that deity is Gaea. -Sean Curtin 05:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] The narration in Classic X-Men#20 indicates that Gaea came to Storm's rescue

The narration in Classic X-Men#20 has it that Mother Nature/Mother Earth/Gaea came to Storm's rescue.

[edit] Appearances in other media

'She is the aunt of the X-Man, Evan Daniels aka Spyke and a member of the staff at the Xavier Institute. This has confused many fans as to how she could be an orphan and still have a brother or sister in order to have a nephew'

I'm not sure if there's some additional information that's been left out which would explain why Storm having a sibling is confusing for many fans. Either that information should be added to the entry, or the confused fans part should be removed. After all, being an orphan does not mean that you're an only child. Doc Meroe 03:51, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

I agree. The entry should be edited to either give a citation, omit the reference to confusion, or explain why people are confused. Maybe they think if Storm is an orphan, she would have trouble finding/identifying her nephew. WikiFew 05:29, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

The problem with adding information is it would all be speculative to begin with. She's never been seen as possessing a sibling in any alternative universe that I know of. Her story has usually been the same: tragedy resulting in her parent's death, she becomes a thief, she quits being a thief and walks Africa helping (or hurting) people with her powers, Charles finds her eventually and asks her to join the X-Men. Evolution could have added a sibling into the mix, but they also could have given Ororo a group of people that she considers "family" and calls them as such. 68.51.57.237 17:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Relation to Spyke

In the X-Men Evolution universe, Spyke is her nephew, but not in the standard universe. I think the section Notable Relatives needs to be changed either to omit Spyke or to explain that it is in an alternate universe.WikiFew 04:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Another possible origin

Storm could also be based on the goddess Oya, who controls storms, tornados, and lightning. Oya and Ororo sound vaguely similar. AncientNova 04:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unbelievably beautiful actress?

"The unbelievably beautiful african-american actress Halle Berry plays her in the recent film series." ... ahem. She very well may be, but that's hardly objectively verifiable. Changed to "The well known.." instead. This minor POV stuff nerves on my get. ~kappisto 17:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] first?

"She may be the first black, female superhero and remains the most popular." - Can someone find out whether or not she was? Either way, saying she remains the 'most popular' deserves citation. - IstvanWolf 16:18, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

After some research here on Wikipedia, Misty Knight seems to be one of the first along with Storm. Misty first had a name in Jan 1975 while Storm first showed up in May 1975. I believe both appeared prior to that in nameless cameo roles. Storm, however, has been much more regular in comics than Misty Knight, who has very rarely present. So I believe an accurate wording would be to say that she was one of the first major black, female superheroes. 68.51.57.237 21:02, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Omega?

The article claims, without any preamble or citation, that Storm is an Omega-level mutant. She's never been stated to be an Omega in the comics - on the contrary, she's been shown to have serious limits to her control over the weather, and exceeding those limits has been shown to be both harmful to herself and dangerous for the local ecosystem. She's never shown anything like the power levels of maxed-out Iceman or Exodus. How would you justify categorically stating her to be Omega?

From having watched Storm closely since she joined, I can say she's NOT an Omega level mutant by one meaning, but she is by another. In terms of potential, she is limited by the existance of atmosphere. Without any atmosphere to speak of, Storm's powers are not functional. Some, however, believe that Omega status denotes the ability to "end". In that meaning, Storm is well above Omega status. The only thing that keeps her from scarring the ecosystem is her own ethical code. Her powers have only been harmful to her in two instances: the first was trying to control the entire weather pattern of Antartica to dispel a raging blizzard. She failed this because she was already weakened. The second was after the X-Treme X-Men invasion arc in which she almost died. So, she is not Omega-level as far as I know. She has never been named as Omega-level. She could get there, however, with even the slightest of mystical or cosmic enhancements. 68.51.57.237 20:45, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

She also failed to control a storm at sea which Lee Forrester was caught in just after the 6-month gap. I'm afraid I can't give an issue number off the top of my head, but it showed she has limits in the face of nature.

All personal feelings and Original Research aside, if she hasn't been called one in the comics then that bit needs to come out of the article. CovenantD 20:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

She has not been as far as I can recall. She's usually referred to as in the class of Xavier, Magneto, and others who are recognized as peak-Alpha. 68.51.57.237 21:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Storm's powers are not limited by atmosphere, on many occasions she has manipulated both "space weather" and ocean currents. Storms abilities are limited by her imagination and awareness of their potential. As she can wield intense control/manipulation of the natural forces of the universe, she may very well be able to surpass even Iceman if she were able to fully control their manifestation. She has the ability to percieve, in a way no one else can, the energy of the universe and manipulate it's "flow." It's kind of arbitrary that her powers manifested in an intense storm, hence her codename, but she has identified with it so strongly that she believes that that is the extent of here domain/control. If you understand physics, then you'd also understand the complex nature of the kind of ability we're talking about (e.g. to "control the weather," you would have to be able to control heat and its distribution, both weak and strong nulear forces, and electromagnetic radiation) that pretty much covers the entire spectrum of physical forces in the natural universe (except for gravity/mass attraction); the same forces that govern everything in the universe.

Storm's powers are limited by her own body, though. In the long term, she's fatigued by their use, and in X-Men Unlimited #1 it was established that if exposed to sufficiently intense cold her body simply shuts down.

That's not entirely true either. Storm not only has the ability to manipulate the elemental energy around her, but also to channel it into her body as seen in Uncanny X-men #147 (http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/issues/showquestion.asp?fldAuto=1892). It seems that she can only do this without harming body when she is in-tune with the deepest part of her subconcious. Unfortunately this has a drastic affect on the rest of the planet as it causes the elements to rage out of control.

[edit] Possible Omega

In Black Panther (4th Series) issue #21 Storm has been confirmed to be a possible Omega-Level Mutant by Iron Man on the last page of the comic. Iron Man made this statement in his instructions to the sentinels to be on guard as Black Panther and Ororo visit the President of U.S. 63.249.112.84 20:46, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Alternate Reality Phoenix

After reviewing the classification stats from the omega-level mutant page, I thought it would be intresting to note here that in an alternate reality, it was Storm and not Jean Grey who merged with the Phoenix Force entity after piloting the space craft from orbit. Storm's body was placed in a healing coccoon and submerged under the Hudson bay. Phoenix-Storm arose from the bay and quickly did away with most super-villains on Earth by freezing them in the atmosphere. When it was realized that the original Storm was in a coccoon, Phoenix-Storm was disperesed and flew off into the galaxy. Storm did not survive the ordeal (similar to Phoenix-Jean Grey). It may be later revealed that Storm was resurected like her counter-part (Jean Grey) in the main marvel universe. (See http://www.uncannyxmen.net/db/spotlight/showquestion.asp?faq=10&fldAuto=76&page=12). One of the requirements of Omega-level was the potential to become a Phoenix. 63.249.112.124 03:19, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge

Per the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Proliferation of Ultimate character articlesWP:COMIC talk page, Ultimate character entries should be merged into the character's main article.--Chris Griswold 05:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Survey

Merge--Chris Griswold 05:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

• Merge Dr Archeville 15:14, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge Markeer 15:58, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge T-Man 09:19, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Closed with CONSENSUS TO MERGE CovenantD 17:01, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion

[edit] Immunity to the weather

I thought it best to put this here - as this scan clearly demonstrates, while Storm is indeed immune to the effects of most weather, that immunity is neither total nor unlimited. She can be overcome by the weather, and therefore to state that she's immune to all weather is simply inaccurate.

Your scan is accurate, but your statement is inaccurate. If you carefully read your scan, Orroro's body over compensated for the affects of the blizard. She overheated instead of maintaining homeostasis while in a freezing environment.

[edit] Dracula?

Why dosen't this page say anything about when Storm was a vampire under Dracula? (The Uncanny X-Men #159 among others.)

[edit] Ororo's Witch Heritage

Has Storm ever delved into the magic side of her heritage besides in the Magik limited series? I vaguely remember reading something about the "witches" in her family being born with white hair and blue eyes. Artemisboy 21:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Though I don't know exactly how this is related, but she has often used her matrilineal ruby to transport herself and others across dimensions. It is unknown how long the ruby has been in her family, but it was passed down to her from her mother, and to her mother from her grandmother. Also, Ashake is one of Ororo's ancestors shown in the comic series. She was a priestes in Egpyt or Nubia, and helped Excalibur in one of their adventures. She was supposedly the spiting image of Ororo. One basic theory is that as Ororo gets older, her mutant powers will wane. When they wane, she will come to depend on her ancestral life magic (ecomancy). 63.249.112.149 00:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Her Ancestor didn't appear in Excalibur, she was in the New Mutants (1st Series) #32. She helped Illyana teleport back to the present using her witchcraft powers [1].

[edit] Really in need of cleanup

The "fictional biography" part -- which is roughly half the article -- is unfortunately poorly sourced, and also treats fiction as fact and gives a firmly in-universe and thus very undesirable account. It is a clear violation of WP:WAF, and it is consensus on WP:CMC that every character profile must be grounded in reality. "Fictional biographies" should be replaced with "publication history", thus starting in the real-life year of 1975 in Storm's case, and not with some fictional account of the Six Day War. This article would be drastically improved if the author(s) could:

• Start with the real-life year 1975, and give a strictly chronological account of Storm
• Name the comic in which Storm does this and that
• Name the author who wrote that arc
• Name the year in which it took place
• Name if some editorial decision was behind some plot development (source plz)

For a positive example, see e.g. Superman, especially Superman#Publication_history. I do not expect Storm's article to become THAT good, but I am sure that it could be much better with only a little effort. -- Onomatopoeia 21:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Also we should note that she is anamalgamtion of several characters Dave Cockrum created for Legion os Super-Heroes. --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 22:01, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

I started to rewrite this article, and plan to merge / phase out the "fictional bio" part. BTW, do you have a source for that statement? I would like to include it, but need a citation. Onomatopoeia 19:01, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Yes: [2] --Chris Griswold (☎☓) 21:45, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Onomatopoeia 10:12, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hacked-out fictional bio

I hacked out this part out of the article, as it violates WP:WAF and the consensus of WP:CMC, and is hopefully made redundant by the new "publication history" section. It is well written, and I hope to merge a good bit into it, it just has to be changed to represent a real-life view. -- Onomatopoeia 10:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Early life

Ororo's mother, N'Dare, was the princess of a tribe in Kenya and the descendant of a long line of Africans with white hair, blue eyes and a natural gift for sorcery, which Storm's Egyptian ancestor, Ashake was expert in. N'Dare fell in love with and married African American photojournalist David Munroe.

Ororo was born in Manhattan, New York City. When Ororo was six months old, she and her parents moved to Cairo, Egypt.

Five years later, a bomb (or a military plane crashing during a bombing attack) destroyed their home and killed Ororo's parents; although the original version of this story stated that the bomb was dropped by a jet of the Israeli Air Force during the Suez Crisis of 1956, later stories have revised the bombing first to an event of the Six-Day War of 1967 and then to an unnamed military conflict. Ororo was trapped in the collapsed building alongside her dead mother, a traumatic experience that would ultimately leave her with a severe case of claustrophobia.

The orphan Ororo grew up on the streets and became a proficient thief under the tutelage of master thief Achmed el-Gibar. To this day she is an excellent pickpocket and lockpick. One of her most notable victims was Charles Francis Xavier, the later Professor X. He used his mental powers to prevent her escape. He also recognized the child to have a unique mind that would require further examination. However, Xavier was attacked mentally by Amahl Farouk, the Shadow King. The two men were preoccupied enough with their battle to allow the girl to escape. Both however would recall her later.

Shortly after her twelfth birthday, Ororo felt something drawing her to the south of Africa. She left Cairo by hoof and started traveling. She soon attempted hitchhiking. However, the first man who offered her a ride attempted to rape her. Using her knife to protect herself, she killed the man in self-defense. She was horrified by her act and swore to never take another human life. She would come to regret this decision later in life.

Ororo continued her solitary trek for a year. She nearly died from dehydration while crossing the Sahara. Her journey brought her about 2000 miles south of Cairo. During the journey, new powers emerged within her. Ororo proved to be a mutant with the power to control the weather.

Those powers would prove useful in her first heroic battle. Ororo witnessed Andreas de Ruyter and men of the South African Army in the process of kidnapping a young boy, slightly older than she. Ororo saved the boy and learned his identity. He was Prince T'Challa of Wakanda. The South Africans would have used their hostage to blackmail his father T'Chaka, the Black Panther. The two youths continued their journey together and fell in love. However, they soon had to part ways. Storm wanted to continue her journey of self-discovery. T'Challa felt bound by duty to return to Wakanda and train to succeed his father.

Storm's journey next brought her to the Kenyan portion of Serengeti, the land of her ancestors. There, Ororo called out to the Goddess of her ancestors and was rewarded with a vision of her adult self. Though Storm continues to swear by the Goddess or "Bright Lady" as she sometimes calls her, no name has ever been given to this deity. Current speculation is that this Goddess is Gaea who has made multiple appearances in the Marvel Universe.

Ororo came to use her powers to help the native tribes and their efforts in agriculture. She came to be worshipped by them as their "goddess of life." However her powers came with a price. Because her subconscious mind affected the weather around her, Ororo had to detach herself from passionate emotions to avoid causing needless harm. She spent years exploring her powers with the help of Ainet, a tribal elder who became her surrogate mother.

[edit] X-Men

Ororo reached her maturity while still in the role of a tribal goddess. There, she was found by her old victim Charles Francis Xavier, who invited her to join his second team of X-Men. Their first mission involved rescuing the original X-Men from the mutant ecosystem inhabiting the Pacific island of Krakoa. Storm was able to combine her powers with those of her teammates and send the entire island to outer space.

Although Storm initially had trouble adjusting to Western culture, particularly the sort represented by her sometimes-vicious teammate Wolverine, she found a home and family among the X-Men such as Jean Grey and Piotr Rasputin who became not only her best friends, but also a surrogate sister and brother. Early battles, however, revealed a significant weakness in her intense claustrophobia, which could be triggered in times of crisis, rendering her panicky and unfocused. She recognized this as a problem and consciously worked on ameliorating her condition. In time, she revealed herself to be confident and pragmatic in battle. She replaced Cyclops, X-Men's longtime leader, when he left the group. When the young Shadowcat joined the X-Men around this time, Storm formed a very close, almost maternal bond with her.

The X-Men spent an extended time in space battling the Brood, an alien race, in which Storm and the others unknowingly became host to future Broods. This left Ororo with a dilemma, to kill the growing Brood within her and break a vow she made when young or to allow it to transform her into another Brood. In the end she escaped out into space deciding to kill herself. This effectively killed the Brood within her but left her vulnerable in space. Fortunately she was rescued by whale-like creatures called the Acanti who could communicate telepathically.

Spending so much time away from planet Earth, combined with the trauma of having a Brood embryo inside her, severed the deep psychic connection Storm had with her home planet, prompting a period of much soul searching. Storm went through some profound personal changes because of this inner conflict, which resulted in her becoming more aggressive and violent. This led to her cutting her hair in a mohawk and wearing leather clothing - changes that alienated her from Shadowcat for a time. Storm was influenced in this by a lover of Wolverine's, Yukio, who became one of her dearest friends; some fans believe the two were lovers, though given Marvel's policies of the time, this possibility was never more than implied. She also fought Callisto for leadership of the Morlocks and won by stabbing Callisto in the heart. Callisto only managed to survive due to the healing powers of another Morlock. The two remained enemies for awhile, but eventually managed to make up and are now friends. Storm now trusts Callisto enough that she asked Callisto to look after Xavier while he was in Genosha.

However her victory over Callisto would lead Storm to fight another Morlock named Marrow years later. Threatening to kill innocent people with a bombtrigger attached to her own heart, Marrow forced Storm to decide to either kill her or let the innocent people die. She did that in the belief that Storm as an X-man was unable to kill. However, during the fight, Storm ripped Marrow's heart out saving the civilians.

[edit] Perennial Leadership

Following Operation: Zero Tolerance, Ororo again took sole leadership of a unified—though significantly diminished—group of X-Men while Cyclops and Phoenix semi-retired to tend to Cyclop's recent injuries. It was during this period that the Shadow King returned, and targeted Storm and Psylocke specifically, tricking them into returning to Storm's old village in Kenya, where the events of the Psi-War took place.

After averting the Rise of Apocalypse and spending a couple of months on a leaderless faction of X-Men including Phoenix, Cable, Beast, and Gambit, Storm went on to lead a group of X-Men outside of the mansion in the search for Destiny's diaries, the Books of Truth, inspired at least in part by the events of The Twelve storyline. This team came to be known as the X-Treme X-Men. While searching for the diaries, Storm enjoyed a brief flirtation with a younger man, Slipstream and was kidnapped by the intergalactic warlord Khan who wanted to make her his queen, as several villains over the years were wont to do. Despite being badly injured, struck by Viper prior to being captured and having to fight off Khan's harem, she managed to defeat Khan with the aid of the X-Treme X-Men who came to rescue her. They brought her back to Earth where she spent time recovering with the aid of Wolverine.

Storm continued to lead the group even after Destiny's diaries were rendered inert because she did not approve of the way Xavier was running the mansion. The group returned to help rebuild the Xavier Institute after the mansion was destroyed by a man who was believed at the time to be Magneto, but was later revealed/retconned to be Xorn. From the school, Storm headed the X-Treme Sanctions Executive, a special police task force of mutants policing mutants given worldwide authority. Bishop, at first, was hesitant to join this timeline's XSE, because it worried him that his future as a member of the Xavier's Security Enforcers could still come true.

Due to the Scarlet Witch's magicks, 98% of the mutants lost their powers, but Storm did not lose hers. This is apparently going to make her a more prominent member of the Marvel Universe according to recent interviews.

[edit] Relationships

Storm had an on-again, off-again romance with the mutant Forge. She first broke up with him when she discovered that he had created the neutralizer gun used to erase her powers, though she later forgave him. In a battle with the Adversary in Dallas, Storm appeared with her powers—and as a result, her psychic bond to the Earth—fully restored and was able to help her teammates defeat the Adversary.

Believed dead by the world, thanks to the conclusion of The Fall of the Mutants, she and her teammates were resurrected by Roma and transported to Australia, where they encountered and defeated the Reavers, a merciless group of cyborgs. Believed dead along with the X-Men was Madelyne Pryor, Cyclops's first wife. Madelyne held a secret grudge against Cyclops for abandoning her and their infant son, Nathan Christopher for Jean Grey. While she found comfort with Cyclops' brother, Havok, her negative feelings toward her estranged husband and the trauma of losing her son made her vulnerable to persuasion and eventually corruption by N'astirh one of the demons from the dimension of Limbo, leading to the Inferno crossover. After saving the world from being sucked into the hell-like dimension, Storm led the X-Men back to their base in Australia. Following a battle with Nanny and the Orphan Maker, Storm was presumed dead. In truth, though, Nanny had captured Storm and faked her death with the use of a SHIELD life model decoy, which resembled her and was left in the wreckage of Nanny's ship to be found by her teammates. The true Storm, now de-aged by Nanny (approximately at the age of 11-12) was a captive in Nanny's hands. However, she managed to escape and started wandering in Cairo, Illinois, with no memories of the past. Her powers were also diminished, due to her age. The Shadow King decided to use this opportunity to hunt her down, by taking over the body of FBI agent Jacob Reisz and framing Ororo for murder. On the run, Storm returned to thievery in order to survive. The Shadow King's agents ambushed her in one of her capers; luckily, though, she was saved by the intervention of fellow mutant and thief Gambit. The duo formed a partnership, as thieves. Eventually, they battled Nanny and defeated her and during battle, Storm's memories were restored. She and Gambit then travelled to the X-Mansion, where they were reunited with Banshee and Forge. After several tests were conducted, it was clearly shown that Ororo was stuck in her pre-teen form and that the de-aging process was irreversible.

During the X-Tinction Agenda, Storm was captured by Genoshan magistrates and turned into a mutate. After she was blasted in a battle, she regained her personality and was also restored into full adulthood.

Following his battle with the Shadow King on Muir Island, the recently-returned Professor Xavier found himself with the assembled members of both the X-Men and X-Factor. The Professor decided to divide the X-Men into two separate strike forces: the Gold Team, led by Storm and consisting of Jean Grey, Iceman, Colossus, and Archangel, and the Blue Team, led by Cyclops, and featuring Beast, Gambit, Rogue, Psylocke and Wolverine. Moira MacTaggert and Forge lived in residence as well.

As their relationship continued to develop, Forge proposed marriage to Storm. Storm was hesitant, however, because accepting Forge's proposal would mean giving up her place with the X-Men in order to lead a more "normal" life. Forge sensed Storm's hesistation, and asked her best friend, Jean Grey, her opinion on Storm's feelings. But due to miscommunication between Jean and Forge, Forge rescinded his offer, leaving a distraught and teary-eyed Storm whispering that she was going to say yes.

[edit] Marriage

Her past relationship with then-Prince T'Challa (the Black Panther) long before she had met Forge later led to a rekindling of their feelings towards each other, and marriage.

When the X-Men journeyed to Niganda to investigate reports of mutant animals, they ran into Black Panther. At the end of the mission, Storm stayed in Niganda to help the mutants affected there. During this time she came into conflict with an African Colonel named Shetani, who was hunting down and killing de-powered mutants in search of Storm. When she finally confronted him, he revealed to her that he was her uncle. Afterward, Shetani told Storm of a hidden village in Northwest Kenya where she met her grandmother for the first time. This finally prompted her to accept the Black Panther's marriage proposal.

The marriage between Storm and the Black Panther is one of the major events of the Civil War tie-in books with characters Iron Man and Captain America showing up for the wedding but leaving before the ceremony because neither of them could stand the sight of each other. Earlier, Charles Xavier makes an appearance, telling Storm that as the queen of Wakanda, she was now the most important mutant in the world, and the living symbol of human/mutant relations. A role, he was quoted as saying, she was born to play. As a gift, Doctor Doom, via a holographic message, invites the newlyweds to his country.

[edit] Is her relationship with Black Panther a retcon?

The article says that her relationship with T'Chalia is a retcon, but I remember reading towards the end of Uncanny X-Men Annual 2 or 3 (the one where she is kidnapped by Arkon because of her lightning powers, and they develop feelings for each other - this was sometime in the late 70's) a brief passage about love where she mentions a long-ago relationship with T'Chalia. Am I wrong about that? --JamesB3 00:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

I just added some facts. The writers say they based it on Marvel Team-up #100 (1980) [3] [4], and even in THAT story, it is already a flashback / retcon [5]. —Onomatopoeia 12:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

No, it is not a retcon. The meeting and story are a retcon, but Storm and Black Panther have always kept in touch and had a relationship. The statement that it is based on one story is 100% false. LoomisSimmons 03:08, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Quick-fail

Storm (comics)/Archive 1 was quick-failed for good article status. A quick-fail means that there are problems with your article nomination that are apparent without the need of a thorough read-through. Common reasons for quick-failing are: Unfree images needing fair use rationales. Unsourced {{fact}} tags. (Tip: Check to see if the article is in Category:Articles with unsourced statements) The article contains 'negative' tags, such as {{toomuchtrivia}}, {{POV}}, or {{future}}. Also, please review the good article criteria. Since a quick-failed article is not fully reviewed, there may be additional problems beyond these. Once you feel all problems have been addressed, the article can be renominated to be more fully reviewed for good article status.(UTC)

--SeizureDog 08:51, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I point out that it was because of the lack of fair use licensing of images, not because of the article itself. I'll work on it. —Onomatopoeia 09:08, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I just revised the pics and got the green light from SeizureDog, so now attempt nr. 2 —Onomatopoeia 11:52, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

While I'm bummed to lose the Cockrum design of Storm (I don't think his influence on her initial look or popularity can be discounted), I admit it was of fairly wonky fair use clarity. The Giant-Size X-men #1 cover (which features Cockrum's inks) is a reasonable substitute.--Erikacornia 23:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA on hold

This is a good article so far from what I can see. I plan to review it in full but I'm putting it on hold for several days to sort out one thing: citation method. Citations should go directly after any form of punctuation. I'll give editors time to sort this out. Wiki-newbie 19:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I just finished modifying using WP:FOOT. I also want to point out that this page is stable despite a number of recent edits; the last 30-odd edits were mostly about formal stuff concerning correct referencing, thus practically no content editing.—Onomatopoeia 13:41, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, I've read through the article, but I shall continue the hold until we have Present Tense handled. I understand the difficulty of writing a comic book article where the character is discussed fully within the context of 'Publication History', but there are still paragraphs in there with sentences purely about the fiction in past tense. Please correct them. Wiki-newbie 16:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Started to do this, now it should be better. —Onomatopoeia 16:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assessment so far

• Well written: Pass. (Certainly I'm more interested in Storm as an X-Man now)
• Factually accurate: Pass.
• Broad: Pass.
• Neutral: Fail. Pass.
• Stable: Pass. (Well, all comics articles expand due to the character's longeveity, but...)
• Images: Pass.

Now neutrality is a problem for the following passage:

In the early eighties, remarkable adventures of Storm written by Claremont included fighting the parasitic Aliens-inspired aliens called the Brood, in which Storm is infected with a Brood egg and contemplates suicide, but then experiences a last-minute save by the benign Acanti aliens.[8] Furthermore, in the Morlocks story line of 1983, in Uncanny X-Men #170 (June 1983), Storm fights super-strong mutant Callisto for the leadership of the disfigured mutants, beats her by impaling her through the heart and almost kills her.[9] Please axe the remarkable, we're not here to praise Claremont.

Once this is done, I shall award the GA. Wiki-newbie 12:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Done, plus some additional NPOV and misc copyedit. —Onomatopoeia 14:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] GA awarded

Keep up the good work: and may this become a model for Out-of-universe Comic book character articles. Peer review it first before FAC: I have my own suggestions too. Wiki-newbie 14:32, 3 December 2006 (UTC)