Talk:Stevens Institute of Technology

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I can put some detail into this article concerning some of the Stevens culture and various student-run organizations on campus. However, I might be biased, since I actually go to the school. Would it be worthwhile to do if someone could check POV for me? Gadlor 19:21, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Go for it! —Slicing (talk) 10:22, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes please put more detail in this article- I would be willing to do some research and do so. Stevens is one of the highest quality technological universities in the United States, and certainly has the most rigorous academic program in New Jersey yet it doesn't get the publicity of even the mediocre public colleges here.

True, it is quiete disproportional but it is a lot of work, for instance I'm personally not sure about several details, even the history page is hosted on stevens-tech.edu aka atilla - a deprecated server (ahh how long has it been from the time, an administrator wrote excitedly that it performs so good that students can run computation-intensive jobs on that in addition to server functions), not every link is alive in there and I do not find everything on stevens.edu, (curses, that insufferable technical progress and financial success :^), in time that should be fixed ) Gnomz007 00:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)


  • Does anyone know more information about the local legends. The Boat and the Horse ones have been passed down over the times by word of mouth, so i am sure the stories have changed slightly. Anyway that is currently "how the legend goes". I would perfer on top of the way it is told now, the origional stories from someone who was there. Also there is definatly alot of content that needs to be filled in about Stevens. I look at other schools with a high percentage of tech savy people and i see alot of time went into their page and that they have alot of content. Anyway thats just my opinion, i could be wrong! -Mkrupnic 16:53, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Given that you're looking for content, is rather odd that you removed my cannon comment. (The comment didn't express a "Point of View", it expressed a fact in a somewhat humorous way. But I understand that some people think Wiki should be entirely serious with no smiling allowed and it wouldn't surprise me that those sorts of folks were the ones who attended Stevens. :) )

But returning to your main point, you'll have to find people who were:

  1. Actually there or directly knowledgeable, and
  2. Willing to expend the effort to write about Stevens.

Personally, I know the ship was there ('cause I was there at the same time), I know there were problems with WCPR leaking out of the lamp string strung high on the ship ('cause I worked at WCPR during that time; I still have at least one aircheck of my shows), but the rest of your story sounds wildly apocryphal and grown large with the retellings. It seems to me that all we did when complaints arose was to stick RFI filters on the ship's lights.

I'd be suspicious of the rest of the stories here as well.

A true fact you might want to include in this article is the naval towing tank that is (or at least was) on campus. You might also discuss the point in history when the college went co-ed (it wasn't that long ago).

You might also want to Google for famous Steven's alumni.

Err, someone gotta do that but not me I lack accurate knowledge and good writing.

And by the way the Tank 3 was, but it will rebuilt - bigger and better. It's former feats include testing of Appolo water landing capsule(and saved it from failure, since computer modelling shown that it is OK, but during real tests it failed by turning over) and wild numbers of less prominent vessels. I know nothing about Tank 1, and I guess that huge square thing with mechanical arm is Tank 2. And that is only the "toys" I've seen, SIT is full of unique devices worth writing about. The number practical education options in Stevens is also a notable thing - co-ed, Technogenesis...Gnomz007 00:38, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Tall Tales

Our intention when posting the Stevens Legends (and yes we were drunk) was to place what we've heard as a starting off point in the hope that people like you would come in with their experiences and knowledge and edit it to be proper(that sounds pretty british). Anyway i am a little confused as to what your saying, but if you know some knowledge feel free to change any of the information there. As for the POV thing, i agree that we should try and keep wikipedia semi-serious because if we do not set the bar somewhere it can get out of hand (not that your comment was out of hand....or foot for that matter). By the way Stevens Class of Dec. 04....woot....5.5 years in the making! Mkrupnic 16:38, 23 Dec 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Attila/ Raveche

Attil was taken down sometime in 2002ish and replace with pipeline a more windows compliant, less shell log in server. We all cried that day. As for content....perhaps the scandal with the finances should be mentioned. Check www.unevenstevens.com Mkrupnic 06:44, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

What about ... - the boat that served as a dormitory in the 1970s - "Big John" the facility (Green tower near the physical plant) that they used to model toilet flushing systems in ultra-tall buildings -

[edit] Improvement

OK, I've started moving this somewhere, not necessary making that article any better. Well it seems Stevens students have low Wikipedia presence, not counting this guy. But right now history part is an enumeration of facts which mostly make sense to a Stevens student, and need a good explanation for an outsider, at least for the flow's of the story sake. I guess copy/pasting official site would be stupid/inapropriate/illegal.

[edit] Improvement

I give up. Where to find the official seal image, is it ok to use. The logo is from here, but there is no seal. I know that resource is for newspapers but ahem, Wiki is not newspaper.

[edit] Making sense checklist

  • Big inventions (bubble wrap?)
  • Does the history has to be the biggest section(Stevens is the future, not past)?
  • What makes Steves stand out?
  • Technogenesis(what's that in a nutshell?)? coop?
  • Unique experimental devices (Dav Lab is not the only one, and I know that every lab has at least one many hundred dollars "toy")
  • University culture, what is special? Honor System in a Nutshell
  • Student-faculty interaction (any notes, I mean that is different)
  • Architecture(is the campus worth walking through)


So one comment - tell me about Stevens, I can not research that all Gnomz007 05:40, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Technogenesis

I broke out the description of this and added info on the trademark. The description is pretty concise, although sort of meaningless, but it doesn't seem to conflict with the 'party line' at http://www.stevens-tech.edu/iti/Technogenesis/ The TM info comes from http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=8p2o7t.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=technogenesis&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query&a_search=Submit+Query If that link doesn't work, you can verify at www.uspto.gov/ and seach trademarks for Technogenesis.

[edit] Free Speech challenge

FIRE, a non-profit group based at Penn has criticized Stevens's sexual harassment policy as being over-broad and in violation of Stevens's first amendment pledge. I've included a section on this.

That's nice, but the fact that FIRE does this to a different university every month or so makes it really peripheral. It's not like FIRE is a significant organization or anything. Their issuing a press release doesn't really give them the right to use Wikipedia to publicize themselves. - Nunh-huh 02:42, 3 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] WCPR Record Collection

The following statment has been moved from the fact section of the main article to here until a source can be cited:

"The campus radio station (WCPR) has the largest private record collection in the state of New Jersey "