Talk:Steve Biko
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Steve Biko Discussion
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[edit] Date Problem
Does anyone have the source that the year 1968 (for Biko starting SASO) comes from? Other sources said he resigned from NUSAS in 1969.
Engleman 00:31, 2004 Jun 1 (UTC)
PS: as well as this: http://www.sahistory.org.za/pages/people/biko,s.htm
Biko became disenchanted with NUSAS by 1968 and began organizing SASO, which held a representative Conference in Dec 1968 at Marianhill, Natal; the date which marks the official formation of SASO. It was officially inaugurated in July 1969 at Turfloop University. SASO adopted a policy of maintaining only a functional relationship with NUSAS, and not a structural one. For this reason, Biko resigned from NUSAS after the inauguration.
'I write what I like' - Steve Biko ISBN 1 77010 006 7 2005 JohD 13:24, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Typo? Or accurate quote of a typo?
3rd item under "Quotes":
"The system concedes nothing without demand, for it forumalates..."
[edit] the book Biko by donald Woods
Hi: I don't know where you obtained that source from, but i can tell you that he resigned from SASO, in1971
I don't think this is correct. Biko's term as Publicity Officer ended in 1970. He began doing voluntary work for BPC. In mid-1972, he terminated his course at Wenthworth and began working full-time for BPC in Durban. Technically, he was no longer a student, and could not remain a member of SASO. JohD 13:29, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Bantu
- An editor removed "Bantu" from the article with the following comment: "the term "Bantu" is actually an offensive term used by the South African government, which refers to the black population. It is NOT part of Stephen Biko's name" – a statement with little truth. Bantu is not a deragatory term (even the words "black" and "African" were used with malevolence in Apartheid lingo, but you wouldnt call "African" deragatory); most biographical sources give his middle name as Bantu; many sources say his father Mzingaye gave him the name Bantu, refering to umuntu ngumuntu ngabantu – a Zulu concept that is translated to English in many ways. --Ezeu 21:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Improvement drive
Black Consciousness Movement has been nominated to be improved on WP:IDRIVE. If you want to see it improved, vote for it here! --Fenice 11:42, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Trial?
- and on 7 October 2003, the South African Justice Ministry officials announced that the five policemen who were accused of killing Biko would not be prosecuted because of insufficient evidence. During the trial it was claimed that Biko's head injuries were a self-inflicted suicide attempt, and not the result of any beatings. The judge ultimately ruled that a murder charge could not be supported partly because there were no witnesses to the killing. Charges of culpable homicide and assault were also considered, but because the killing occurred in 1977, the time frame for prosecution had expired
This is rather confused. What trial? If the Justice Ministry ruled out prosecuting the policemen, who was an trial? The independent article is not working so that's of no use Nil Einne 09:31, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] minor error for nearly 3 years!
Ouch. This edit introduced an error which survived for nearly 3 years. I watched the movie "Cry Freedom" tonight waiting to hear the song Biko, but it wasn"t there. So I looked to see if the song is on the CD soundtrack. No. Pretty sad to see this error last that long.--Jimbo Wales 05:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Reasons for Biko's arrest
I have seen several references in the past that suggested is was possible, even if unlikely, that Biko was involved in gun smuggling, and that was the reason for his arrest. Here is one link that references this idea: http://members.shaw.ca/cartermyths/Carterbiko.htm While it may not be true, I think there was sufficient speculation at the time to warrant mention in the Biko article.--Mike Melzer 17:30, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] POV considerations
Let me say outright that I agree with the tone and facts of this article. If, however, this had been written in the period when the apartheit regime ruled South Africa someone from that camp would very likely have attacked it as biased. Most of us now regard Nelson Mandela as a great statesman and a humanitarian, but during his long imprisonment, he was depicted as a terrorist by his government; some, I expect, still think so. Similarly, some Japanese deny atrocities of the Japanese Empire, and many Americans deny the atrocities of the USA at several points in its history.
There are many articles in Wikipedia which are the scenes of heated and ferocious debates about what is and is not POV or NPOV, and what are the facts in question. The religiously inclined, for instance, usually say things that I view with alarm.
My opinion is that a NPOV is impossible in any but the most innocuous context, and that it would be better if Wikipedia recognised that as fact and devised some mechanism for non-destructive debates in these troubled areas. Perhaps those who disagree with the tone or conclusions of an article could, instead of engaging in unproductive 'revert wars' and outright vandalism, [note the slur on the Vandals] be allowed to write parallel articles presenting their own points of view (or biases)? Too Old 03:48, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Homage
I felt a genuine need within this tapestry of Biko's life for a place where his legacy could be read in the words of tribute from those who have been inspired; or in some small fractional way, stirred by the story of a man in these modern times who walked peacefully from silence to a martyr's death, confronting his nation's oppressors. This homage is meant to be a genuinely respectful tribute. September 12, 2007 will mark the 30th Anniversary of Stephen Biko's death. [ Format: Date of entry (15 Oct 06) - your personal note of tribute. optional name, optional country ]
removed vandalism71.12.194.34 20:16, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
