Talk:Stena Line

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To the person who continually post anti-stena line sentiments on this site- we all know you had a bad experience with Stena Line and do not like the company in any manner, but don't you think that maybe its time to get over it?

Bold text== Largest in the World? ==

Lol. I have also seen BC Ferries described as the World's largest Unsure whether these claims are by number of vessels, number of routes, number of passengers carried, number of miles traversed, or some combinations thereof. -- Geo Swan 13:52, 2005 Mar 6 (UTC)

Contents 1 Neutrality 2 Awful company 3 Largest in the World? 4 External link 5 Discovery

[edit] Neutrality

the last paragraph of the text seems heavily anti-Stena Line. Does this breach neutrality, or are they really that bad? (they just didn't seem to be when I went with them earlier this year) Unsigned comment by 81.102.41.34

I removed the text since it was not written from a neutral point of view. Here is the text: "Stena Lines ferries are generally geared towards cargo and the company is not recommended for passenger transport. In accordance with company policy, Stena Line employees are allowed to leave passengers behind regardless of quoted times to make space available for cargo. There are also reported cases where Stena Line personnel have threatened passengers, denied boarding to disabled round trip guests and actively promoted binge drinking.". bbx 06:22, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Awful company

Stena Line is a horrible company with a clear policy that passengers are second rate to cargo. I was left behind in Harwich for no other reason than that was how they did things around there, even though I arrived well before the scheduled sail time. The ship was still in port, loading cargo, but since I was a passenger they wouldn't lift a finger to help me. This had a knock-on effect that ruined the weekend. Some research proved that they had done this on a number of occasions and I believe that this should be included in the article. Here are some Norwegian newsclippings that prove the point. Stena Line waiter threathens to kill guest Disabled person left on the pier Passengers evacuated after collision Stena Line ignores ban on smoking in public places Three sheets to the wind, ferry company encourage parents to drink

Here is another one, stating once again that Stena Line is a company best avoided. In an attempt to meet competition they refurbished an old rustbucket, only to have the maritime authorities impose sailing restrictions. Maiden voyage cancelled

Stena Line, you won't be having a good time.

Heres yet another one! After the Stena Nautica collision the Swedish maritime investigators found that Stena Line were sailing around with the watertight doors open, the crew did not know how to close them and ship was in danger of sinking. Think Titantic and Herald of free Enterprise. Stena Line, being who they are, just shrugs over these comments. Poor safety with vessel accident Stena Line rejects criticism

In this article and web-cast a Stena Line representative states yes, they do pump sh**t over board and no, they have intention of finding out what the consequences are. That, he says, is not their job.Stena Line dumps untreated sewage in the Baltic

And they are lieing too!

And discriminate

And attempt to exploit forreign crews —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.217.94.254 (talk • contribs).

The article below claiming Stena Line is an "Awful Company" is plain rubbish in my opinion. I have travelled extensively with the company over many years and have found their customer service to be in a league of its own, and feel that the company has the best passenger vessels in UK waters (e.g. the fantastic Stena HSS). Additionally, I have no concerns at all regarding safety on the company's ferries, I have always found safety to be a key priority on the company's vessels. And additionally, the citation of several media/ tabloid articles to back up the author's views does not mean that what is written in these articles is true or factually correct.

I would recommend any one who is doubting the quality of Stena Line's vessels and services to travel with them and decide for yourselves- I don't think you will be disappointed- there is a reason the company is winning so many awards right now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.46.107.205 (talk • contribs).

Yes, it is an awful company with a suspect safety record. The article below, amongst others refer to the Swedish Accident Investigation Board. From the Swedish collision report: "The reason that Stena Nautica became flooded and nearly sank was because the shipping company lacked a sufficiently thought-out and implemented safety policy". But in case that is not enough, on Konigen Beatrix the neglient captain cocked up the rescue efforts of Michael Davis, see DAVIS v STENA LINE LIMITED [2005] EWHC 420 or if it proves to much to read. I don't suppose you would claim that Justice Forbes is not factually correct? But you are right, the customer service is in a league of its own! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 193.217.94.254 (talk • contribs).

[edit] Largest in the World?

I don't know...but I think Stena Line is the largest ferry operation in the world, being followed by BC Ferries. BC Ferries has 35 ships, 47 terminals and 25 routes on the west coast of Canada, which comes to 4,700 employees in all. I can't see how Stena Line has over 5,000 seeing as how they don't operate the terminals (or do they?). BC Ferries operates all 47 of their terminals, and let me tell you, the biggest one (Tsawwassen Terminal) can almost be compared to Calais or Dover. On the major route out of that terminal, between Vancouver and Victoria, they carry more passengers and vehicles than on Dover-Calais. In addition to that route, they also operate one other route to Vancouver Island in Nanaimo and one to the Southern Gulf Islands which are off the coast of Vancouver Island. Also in addition is the Horseshoe Bay terminal (also serving Nanaimo and two other routes), which has room for up to 2,000 American size average cars (many of you may have heard about Horseshoe Bay when the Queen of Oak Bay crashed into the marina last summer). Horseshoe Bay must be the most state-of-the-art ferry terminal in the world, being nestled between steep mountains and ocean, and the entire terminal is built on a grade due to the "Upper Levels Highway", which is further up the mountain-side.

[edit] External link

I saw this reversion for "linkspam" and have now seen it reverted back by another anon. I'm wondering which of these two links is correct. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

http://www.stenaline.co.uk is the official address (with .com for the corporate gateway) - anything else is linkspam (do a google search for "stena line") - we have had an anon (198.54.202.146) from south africa who has been spamming with the extra 's' for a good month or so - and he has had multiple blocks for spamming. SFC9394 10:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

On the link with the 's': http://www.stenalines.co.uk/ I see all options for travel with Stenaline. I do not see undesirable commercial information (i.e. spam). Maybe it is an optional site from Stenaline? Or am I missing something? --JohJak2 17:49, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

The issue isn't about what options it gives - the spammer who kept adding it was just changing the link so that the "official site" link pointed to there, when in fact that website is nothing whatsoever to do with stena themselves. WP can't just list 101 websites that have anything to do with the article, especially on articles that are about subjects where selling products and services are involved. The official site is all that is needed - goods and services reseller website links are the very definition of linkspam. SFC9394 18:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discovery

Any news on the HSS vessel Discovery going out of service now their 10 year contract is expiring and fuel costs are rising? Or is it extended? JohJak2 17:52, 7 May 2006 (UTC)