Talk:Steaua Bucureşti

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It wouldn't be a bad idea if people that start editing this page would take more care of the way they use the English language. It's pretty annoying to read a page when it's full of grammar or spelling errors, especially when you're a fan of the team. Also whenever you create a link, make sure it is a valid link. It's really annoying to see the page full of red links or links that instead of sending you to the page of a football team they send you to the page of the city or of the quarter where that team plays. I've tried to edit as many mistakes as I could find. Giuseppe86 19:25, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

And one more thing - a little bit of modesty never hurt anybody.Giuseppe86 19:30, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

I've edited some more club links and I think all of them work. Also I think it makes sense to use the old name (like Croatia Zagreb, instead of Dinamo Zagreb; the same applies to Casino Salzburg and Red Bull Salzburg), since that was the name the club used when it played Steaua. A question though - isn't it a bit confusing to sepparate a season between two years (like the 2004/2005 season sepparated between 2004 and 2005)? I mean in football the division used is the 'season' and that in most cases doesn't match with a year. I hope to get some thoughts instead of people that come around without announcing what they want to do with the page Giuseppe86 10:55, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

You can say either that you 'win on penalties' or 'win after the penalty shootout'. The form 'penalties shootout' is wrong (a simple check on the internet is enough to prove it). Giuseppe86 13:15, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I've changed a line where it said 'the frantic Steaua's fans' with 'the frantic Steaua fans'; 'Steaua's frantic fans' is also an option Giuseppe86 16:58, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I have doubts about the statement that Steaua's 104 matches without defeat is a world record. RSSSF, one of the best sites in the world when it comes to football statistics, shows under Miscellaneous - Unbeatability records that ASEC Abidjan is the holder of the world record with 108 matches. If it is true then Steaua's record of 104 matches is only a European record. Giuseppe86 11:28, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

You are right. This has now been changed.--Oliviu 10:13, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Two different pages...

This page (Steaua Bucureşti) has become too large and therefore needs to be split. This makes sense as long as Steaua Bucureşti is a sports club with quite a number of departments and not only a football team, which is actually FC Steaua Bucureşti.

I suggest to make a brand new page named FC Steaua Bucureşti (at the moment it redirect to Steaua Bucureşti) for the football team and leave Steaua Bucureşti for the sports club. However, I don’t have the right knowledge to do it myself and I require some help.

Also if someone changes please note that there are many pages which link the page Steaua Bucureşti at the moment. They all should be changed (maybe using a robot?) to link to FC Steaua Bucureşti.

[edit] Message for SupervladiTM

I understand that you are a big Steaua fan and considering the amount and the relevance of the information you added on the page you probably work for Steaua in some position, however you must always obey a Wikipedia rule: You must always be neutral. Thanks for understanding. --Oliviu 10:09, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Issue of racism involving Steaua

Several times in the last six months, I've edited this page to include information that I think is important: the fact that Steaua Bucuresti's fans have been involved in some notorious incidents of racism in recent years. See, for example: http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/UCL/news/Kind=1/newsId=327828.html

http://www.farenet.org/news_article.asp?intNewsID=663

This does not make Steaua unique, unfortunately; Lazio-Rome, St. Germain-Paris, one of the Belgrade teams, and numerous other European clubs are plagued by racism. But the fact that Steaua has been sanctioned by UEFA in the last two years should be known, and is relevant to the recent history of the club. Yet the Steaua fans who dominate this page has always removed any references to the history of racism (both anti-black and anti-gypsy). The removal of this information violates Wikipedia's guidelines on neutrality.