User talk:Stavol2

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Welcome!

Hey, Stavol2, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for your contributions. I hope you like the site and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful (some of them may sound stupid, but I recommend you check them out):

While editing, please remember:

You should introduce yourself here at the new user log. I hope you enjoy editing and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name, the date, and the time.

For your first edits, I suggest searching for articles that you think might interest you. You could also be audacious and try a random page.

If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome and happy editing! Cbrown1023 16:23, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Please sign posts on Talk pages

Just a friendly reminder (I saw your posts at the Help Desk): As a courtesy for other editors, it is a Wikipedia guideline to sign your talk page and user talk page posts. To do so simply add four tildes (~~~~) at the end of your comments and your user name or IP address and the date will be automatically added along with a timestamp. Signing your comments helps people to find out who said something and provides them with a link to your user/talk page (for further discussion).For further info see the talk page guidelines. Thank you. --ElKevbo 17:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 1993 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships

Where is your evidence on the Czech Republic and Slovakia competing as a combined team? Please verify this ASAP oor I will revert this back to the previous edit. Chris 20:26, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Martin Svagerko is a slovak and competed together with 3 czechs in this event. http://www.fis-ski.com/uk/604/610.html?sector=JP&raceid=1290 Stavol2 21:52, 2 December 2006 (UTC) http://www.skijump-db.net/FIS_WM/1993.htm Stavol2 22:24, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Women's 20km event in 1980

Where is the evidence on the women's 20km event in Falun in 1980? Please provide this evidence, What you also have done on some of the other websites was not considered helping an article, but it is considered vandalism. Please provide this evidence or there will be other editors who will be less civil than I am? Chris 20:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Hello Chris I didn't realize I should have started a dialogue with an author before correcting anything. In that case I'm sorry, but if you are interested in achiving correct information on these pages I hope you will talk further with me. Concerning 20 km in 1980 and Ski jumping in 1993, what kind of evidence do yopu want? You can ask any ski historian. I'm not inventing any of this. Hope to hear from youStavol2 21:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Here's a link: http://sports123.com/cco/ww-20.html Please feel free to ask me anything if you have any doubts whether I know what I'm talking aboutStavol2 22:03, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championnats_du_monde_de_ski_nordique_1980 (No mentioning of the venue, though)Stavol2 22:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

http://www.scmotorzella-mehlis.de/chronik/wm.htm Stavol2 22:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

http://www.skidor.com/t2.asp?p=33333 Stavol2 22:09, 2 December 2006 (UTC) http://www.eurosport.de/home/pages/v4/l1/s193/sport_lng1_spo193_sto685578.shtml Stavol2 22:11, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I hope you are convinced, and that my work was not all in vain. Please bear with me, I just want to help.Stavol2 22:31, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Apologies for 1980 and 1993 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships

After looking at your information, I would like to offer you a big apology for my reaction to what you did. I have made the needed adjustments to the information you had initially provided on Saturday. I also failed to realize the you are still a newcomer and still don't know the ropes on the editing processes. Please accept my apologies and I look forward to working with you in the future. Chris 23:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Communications

Regarding your response from earlier today on communications, you can do it on the discussion boards of the respective article as well as do it on the editor's discussion board. Some people prefer to do it on the article's discussion board while others perfer to do it on the editor's. My preference is on the editor because I can deal with the differences on a one-on-one basis, can develop a relationship with that editor, and can resolve the issue in a much quicker manner. Other prefer to have it out at the article's discussion so that you can a more open discussion. If it is with information that is more historical with people who are familiar with it, you are better off with an editor-to-editor discussion like what we are having right now. If you are dealing with a more current or controversial issue, you would be better off having the discussion done on the article. That is a judgement call that you have to make on each article or issue. Please bear that in mind when you do this. I have had to develop this (and am still working on) over the small amount of time I have been on Wikipedia. Chris 15:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 50 km 1937

I am going by the official results of FIS. That was my basis for this. I see that even the official information gets that incorrect. I will make the according adjustments. My reasons for liking nordic skiing and other comments will be given to you later in the day for the UTC. Chris 03:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Response to earlier comments

As promised in my comments from earlier in the UTC, I have adjusted the 50 km from 1937 regarding Ryen and Karpinnen. Also on editing, you can put your comments down on the edit summary which I strongly reccommend. When you put information down, please cite your sources with a suggestion of looking at WP:CITE which leads you into the Citing sources article in Wikipedia in your articles. The more sources that you post, the less likely you will be challenged on them. This applies to everyone who edits on Wikipedia.

Finally, regarding my interest in Nordic skiing despite being an American (and a Southern one at that since I live in Georgia), is that my main preference is in cross country with the stamina that is involved with the event even though I have never actually participated plus the cost involved (The closest to me in cross country in the US is either in Lake Placid, NY or in Minnesota). Ski jumping is still something I am trying to understand though the guides set up be the IOC and the FIS are helping. Nordic combined's interest is increasing with the development of the Gundersen method in the 1980s. Plus, I actually like winter sports over summer sports. I hope this helps. Chris 14:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article talk page discussions

FYI. Whenever a suggestion is made on a talk page and enacted, please do not blank the page. That is considered by some to be vandalism as what you did with the talk page for the 1997 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships. There are people who are vandalism patrollers on Wikipedia and they are a lot less tolerant than I am on that. I have reverted what you had on there as a matter of record. Even after it is done, you are better off leaving it there. The more open you are on what you do in Wikipedia, the better things will be for you. By the way I did that adjustment on the Team large hill for the 1995 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships per your recommended. Also, good job on the List of FIS Nordic World Ski Championships medalists in nordic combined earlier today about the Gundersen method. Usually when I check my watch list and see what adjustments are and they are good ones, I generally leave it alone. You are improving. It is going to take time. Now let's see how you can do in doing these edits by yourself. Chris 21:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Additions to other articles

I did make the adjustment for the 4 x 10 km at the 1937 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships to have it more clear in English on your comments. One thing I might want to add on all of your times and points to the championships done is to make certain that you put in the source to where you got this information. At the end of each article, there is a section called "External links." These are links where you can access information outside of Wikipedia. The best advice on getting this in is to have another Internet viewer screen whether it is Explorer or something else and copy the link onto the page. Some people copy the link as is and leave it while other try to clean it up for readability.

Some of the other ones I have done involving making something more readable was either with Lars Bystøl or Roar Ljøkelsøy, two ski jumpers from your country who competed at the 2006 Winter Olympics in Turin. You can click on the history of either article and you will see my username Miller17CU94 on there. It can show you what that version was before hand and show you the difference between selected versions. These versions can be subtle or just complete whosale difference depeding upon who is doing this and why. It is fascinating to see how all of this plays out over time. Chris 01:27, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

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