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If it helps the revert war, I dont think Shadows of the Empire should be included on this template. DrHaggis

Me neither. Copperchair 20:23, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

A template like this does not have to be exhaustive, that is what categories are for. There must be a solution to this that makes all parties involved comfortable.

Proposed Solution: split the template into several templates.

  • Star Wars Movies - episodes 1-6, and the 2 theatrical ewok movies
  • Star Wars TV Shows - The droids/ewok cartoons, clone wars cartoons, proposed live action, xmas special
  • Star Wars "Extra Projects" - Shadows of the empire, return of the ewok, R2D2 beneath the dome.

- Dr Haggis - Talk 22:22, 17 August 2005 (UTC)

I like the idea, sort of. Shadows of the Empire has a place in the template because it is quite unique, compared to other Lucasfilm projects. It was even thought at the time by many to involve an actual movie being made, due to it involving everthing but the movie.The project belongs in the tremplate, I feel, but, just as Drhaggis suggested, it should be in a specific category. Adamwankenobi 02:03, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

I don't quite agree. "Return of the Ewok" and "R2-D2: Beneath the Dome" are documentaries, but Shadows of the Empire is everything but that (video game, book, toy line, etc.) It should go in an "Expanded Universe" template (just a suggestion). Copperchair 03:19, 18 August 2005 (UTC)


So I think we agree that Shadows can be in the template, providing it does not get the same "weight" as the films. Also we wish to prevent future editors from adding all the books, comics and fan films which will just clutter things up. I'm hesitant about classifying anything as EU because I don't want to get into a canonical war. I think the best category for Shadows and all other non film and TV ventures is "Miscellaneous Projects" - Dr Haggis - Talk 15:16, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

As the template stands, it doesn't have the same weight as the films. It has the same weight as the other main EU projects by Lucasfilm. Shadows has the same weight as Droids, the Ewok films, or The Star Wars Holiday Special. All the EU works obviously, cannot fit into the list and would not be practical. Shadows of the Empire is here because it is the only project from the EU that was designed similar to a movie. The fact that it had all the properties of a movie, or any type of motion picture media, gives it a special place in the EU, and should then give it a place in the spinoffs list. Myself, I don't want anything else than what is on the list included. There are no more projects that would fit the categories, to my knowledge. Although the spinoffs section keeps things organized, I think subdividing it will be more self-explanatory, and will specify exactly what belongs in the lists. Adamwankenobi 18:39, 18 August 2005 (UTC)

It is NOT a movie, face it. It wasn't even done in one media only, it was dispersed through several ones. I think Dr Haggis's proposition is a very good idea, by the way. Copperchair 07:02, 19 August 2005 (UTC)

I understand that it is not a movie. I have even changed the format of the template to accomodate this. I'm not saying the project was a movie. I just feel it deserves a special place on the template, due to the media content that makes it resemble a movie. Compared to other EU projects, it is the closest to a movie. Also, I have added the expanded universe article to the template, in order to accomadate every single other EU project. This will make the template exhaustive, without actually being exhaustive. Adamwankenobi 04:37, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

I just made another, more specific version of your template. Let me know how do you feel abot it. Copperchair 05:27, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

I moved the "Other Projects" section areound a little. Maybe the "Featurettes" section should be more specific as to what it's referring to. Adamwankenobi 01:47, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I think it is too big. Check out Template:HitchhikerBooks or Template:Lotr for simliar examples. - Dr Haggis - Talk 14:13, 20 August 2005 (UTC)

It seems to be just as big as the Star Trek template. Adamwankenobi 01:47, 21 August 2005 (UTC)

I think we can do better then the Star Trek people. ;) - Dr Haggis - Talk 18:34, 25 August 2005 (UTC)

Contents

[edit] Template:Star Wars episodes

Is it alright with everyone if I just put this template on the pages for the six Star Wars films instead? The current template is getting dauntingly big... we simply can't have an all-encompassing Star Wars template to provide links to all the Star Wars articles. Pretty soon this template may grow to include Star Wars planets, weapons, authors, conficts, races, places, vehicles, and organizations. On the 6 episode pages, I'd rather just have a compact template with links to the other movies. Coffee 20:52, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

I am the one has has added all of the additions to the template. What I have been trying to do is make it all-encompassing, without it actually being all-encompassing. I have limited the template though, to listing only the media projects. From those pages, you can easily reach all of the other ones you listed. For example, the EU section tells you about the EU when you click on it, but if you are interested in the star wars races, weapons, etc, there are links in that article to all of that. Please don't remove the other sections from the templates, they are there to allow someone coming to the articles to be able to find out everything they want to know about star wars... easily. TheAlternateReality 21:33, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
As it is right now, the template is just too big. Star Tours? Beneath the Dome? The Official Star Wars Fan Film Awards? Nobody cares about a link to those articles from the individual film pages. Making the template bigger isn't making it better, it's making it worse. Coffee 21:48, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

Look how tight and complete the Template:HitchhikerBooks template is. It has colour, and links to some of the key categories in the universe to be as complete as can be without taking up so much real estate. - Dr Haggis - Talk 22:28, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

The links to the spin-off projects are there not really because I thought that anyone would care about them (not many do). Nor are they there because I think they hold the same importance as the films. The lniks are there just to give a complete, organized collection of links to all star wars productions. It just seems that there should be more listed there than just the films, as there is much more to star wars than that. Adamwankenobi 00:45, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

I also think that "The Official Star Wars Fan Film Awards" should not be there. As it's name says, there made by fans, so there are not too serious projects. Copperchair 03:14, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

Yeah, but they were officially sponsored by Lucasfilm, not to mention endorsed. Since this annual event seems to be a major project that holds much importance to many fans, I feel it should be included in the template. Adamwankenobi 04:04, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
Not everything sponsored by Lucasfilms belongs in this template. Look, if you want a complete organizes set of links to all Star Wars productions, that's what the Star Wars portal is for. If this template starts branching out to things beyond the films, it'll will bloat up beyond control we'll be bickering about it forever. Coffee 07:46, 27 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Revert War

Be advised that reverting the same page more than three times in a day is a violation of Wiki policy. - Dr Haggis - Talk 20:13, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] What's in, What's out

Geez, guys, discuss this stuff on the talk page instead of engaging in back-and-forth revert wars. Coffee 20:14, 30 August 2005 (UTC)

Please. Alf 20:18, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
Look, I'll take out the mockumentaries section, if alinktothepast will leave everything else how it is. Adamwankenobi 20:35, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
It's still too big without the mockumentaries. Shadows of the Empire, Star Tours, and Fan Film Awards... those need to go too (besides, SOTR is part of the EU). Take a look at this Template:Star Wars episodes (I modified it). Can we agree to use that on the 6 film pages? It's compact, the focus is on the links to the six films, and there are links that would lead readers to all those pages that clutters the current template. Coffee 20:45, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
We could actually use two templates. For the pages of the episodes, use the template with just the episodes. And below that, have a template dedicated to the EU. With the EU template, add in all of the listings that "clutter" the current one. This seems to have worked in a similar way on the Lord of the Rings and James Bond series templates. A Link to the Past will probably still have complaints, though. Adamwankenobi 20:54, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
"Template:Star Wars episodes is very nice. We could even have a little icon on it like the Template:NorseMythology has. - Dr Haggis - Talk 21:03, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
I've made two templates. One for the episodes, and one for the EU. Adamwankenobi 21:25, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
The Star Wars episodes template Coffee made should be used. I'm going to slap that on the articles. - A Link to the Past (talk) 01:49, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Seeking for dialogue

As a sign of good faith I will leave this template alone. Copperchair 02:47, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

That's good, you've taken your first step into a larger world. The Wookieepedian 03:09, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
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