Talk:Star Cruises

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[edit] Accuracy of fleet information

I'm still not clear what's in their fleet currently - their own website is not consistent with itself, with other websites, nor with Douglas Ward's guide. Stan 03:55, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I have obtained fleet information from their annual reports to shareholders (obtained from their web site), hopefully that is accurate enough. =Travisyoung= 01:49, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Constant "disagreements" between Huaiwei and Instantnood

Instead of constantly reverting (for lack of a better word) each other's edits in what seems to me like personal vendetta against each other, may I suggest that when editing:

so as to convince the other party that the edit is made in good faith.

This does not mean I am taking sides, just hoping that this constant sparring will stop, and both of you can work together to create better articles in Wikipedia. =Travisyoung= 01:49, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

Thank you for the edits. "Listed" in HK is quite different from "based" in HK, since the later gives the misleading notion that the company has its operations based there, which is not so.--Huaiwei 05:09, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

You're welcome. From Genting Group's website, I think Star Cruises Limited is indeed based in Hong Kong. Genting Berhad has a 57% stake in Resorts World Berhad, which in turn has a 36% stake in Star Cruises Limited. Star Cruises Limited is an associate company (not a wholly owned company or subsidiary) which operates out of Hong Kong (it has its operating headquarters in Hong Kong, as seen from the annual reports to shareholders). =Travisyoung= 05:42, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

From the above, it is apparant you are saying it is "based" in hk merely by the fact that its corporate HQ is in HK. But a quick check online shows that the company has been called "Malaysia-based" (or simply a "Malaysian company") and even "Singapore-based" at one time (the company started in Singapore in 1993 as a Genting-owned company, before being sperately listed in HK years later [1] due to the "image problem" of its close assocition with Genting. It was previously listed in Luxembourg [2]). For a transportational company like Star Cruises, saying it is "HK-based" gives the impression that it is also operationally based there, which is not true. Its operational hq is in Port Klang, Malaysia, [3], while it has a major cruise presense in Singapore, the largest cruise hub in the Asia Pacific in terms of passenger traffic, a distinction largely thanks to Star Cruise's efforts. It is perhaps because of this, that the company chooses to call itself an "Asian" cruise line then one attached to any one nationality/territory?--Huaiwei 14:07, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
Thanks so much Travisyoung. I just meant to adding back the information Huaiwei deleted without explanation (while maked "expand" in the edit summary), based on the trust to the previous editors of the article :-D .— Instantnood 07:36, July 27, 2005 (UTC)

There is no need to thank me. Instead of arguing/provoking Huaiwei, you could have backed up what you thought was correct by providing specifics and external citations. The fact that I added the bit on Hong Kong does not mean I agree with what you did. =Travisyoung= 08:35, 27 July 2005 (UTC)

I didn't want to provoke or argue with him. I just meant to moving back what was removed unexplained. Anyways.. let's leave it. — Instantnood 08:59, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
Well, replacing information which were removed without explainations isnt exactly going to help the situation at all, as is apparantly so above. It dosent take a genious to predict this, and we shall leave it to the benefit of the doubt as to whether instantnood has "no intensions to cause provocations" as claimed above. Its not as thou we just started our correspondence.--Huaiwei 14:07, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
What does it mean? -- Jerry Crimson Mann 15:28, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
What does what mean?--Huaiwei 15:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)