Talk:Srirasmi

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[edit] moving

Please consult Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles)#Cast votes 217.140.193.123 16:26, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

proposing compromise solution. Antares911 13:38, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Move to Princess Srirasmi of Thailand? (the vote was started 22 July 2005 and ended by Violetriga 23 July 2005, around 25 hours after the start of the vote)

  • support User:Arrigo and later User:Ahoerstemeier moved the original name of the article without posting a discussion on it first. such a move is unwarranted under Wikpedia rules. on top of that, there are no clear rules regarding the naming of Thai royals. therefore propose to restore the original name until consensus is found. Antares911 13:29, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  1. Oppose proposed move. Princely title unnecessary for any encyclopedic purpose (such as disambiguation). Spirit of naming conventions do not require princely title to be used in heading here. Simplicity in headings is desirable. (If a reader already knows so much about Srirasmi that the reader knows she is a princess, why the reader even comes here? Explanations what someone/something IS belongs to the text of the article, not to the heading.) Arrigo 20:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
  2. Oppose - keep it at the simple location "Srirasmi". "of Thailand" is not necessary, such country-disambiguation is only necessary for the western royals where it have several with the same name, and it's also not part of any official name/title. And the royal title "Princess" isn't included neither in EB nor encarta, and also not included in WP articles normally, so why should the Thai royals be dealt with otherwise. But I agree with Mark - instead of moving around the pages again and again (the editing history of some has more moves than edits!) it'd make sense to get a consistant policy, yet the discussion at the Manual of Style for Thailand articles is just the same points as the one spread over the various single royals talk pages. BTW: This vote also applies to the other Thai royal move-arounds. andy 11:03, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

(Not a vote)Please don't vote on moving individual articles. We need a consistent policy. Mark1 04:17, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

This wasn't actually listed at WP:RM but I think the monarchical title naming conventions of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (names and titles) are pretty clear. I hope that "Srirasmi of Thailand" can be an acceptable compromise between the two choices. violet/riga (t) 14:27, 23 July 2005 (UTC)

I think the formulation "Srirasmi of Thailand" is one of the worst choices for this. Arrigo 08:48, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

That's your opinion and that's fair enough. Now please open discussions about policy rather than individual articles. violet/riga (t) 18:46, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

I want to know more about her bakground, can anyone help?????

Princess Srirasmi was born commoner in wealthy family. HM King Bhumibol Adulyadej allowed HRH Crown Prince Maha VajiraLongkorn to marry her (this mean she is accepted as royal daughter-in-law). After gave birth of Prince Tipangkorn Rassamichoti, she was given a royalty to be HRH Princess Srirasmi, the princess consort of HRH Crown Prince Maha Vajiralongkorn.

What was her surname, as commoner. I presume it was not Mahidol and it was not Ayuddhia. Arrigo 10:38, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

In the name of Thai I don't like to call my royalty without title, ex: Srirasmi of Thailand, it disrespect my monach. In the other hand, because Princess Srirsasmi was born commoner her name is very common. There are so many girl name Srirasmi, how we know which Srirasmi if don't add Princess?.--Pudtipong Nawasornyuttana 02:56, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

When we need to disambiguate members of royal families, we do so with "of Thailand/Spain" etc. The current title is correct. Mark1 03:10, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

As I am Thai, I am not offended by seeing Srirasmi without royal title, but only in English academic writings. Although the name 'Srirasmi' is different to other royal names such as Bhumibol by the reason Pudtipong has mentioned, I don't see the necessasity of using Princess Srirasmi to identify her from other Srirasmis in the title. And in the future, if there are other Srirasmis in wikipedia, disambiguation page can be used. CW32 16:37, 16 August 2005 (UTC)

If Srirasmi really can be the first name of several Wikipedia-notable persons and at least one other of those persons uses it as her main name, and not some longer and thus disambiguate name, then Srirasmi's own current name has a reference to her husband by his title, crown prince of Thailand, whereby we westerners probably would regard Srirasmi as recognized Crown Princess consort. Thus, in last resort, she would then be here Srirasmi, Crown Princess of Thailand. 217.140.193.123 22:34, 23 August 2005 (UTC)

Not much people in Thailand know about her family, even I'm a Thai. Her Family is very common and not wealthy, what I know is her family is a middle class. The king give her royal status because it effect to her child. Prince Dipangkorn Rasmijoti, Her son can not bear the title as Prince(style as HRH) if his mother is a commoner. But he is second in line of succession, so the king raise his mother to royal status. This is never happened in Thai History that the wife of crown prince raise to

I removed "Mom" from her born name ,because "Mom" is the common title for kings or princes 's wife who don't have a royal title/name yet.She used to named "Mom Srirasmi Mahidol na Ayudhaya" before she got a royal name/title from the king.But her original surname is not know by most people... included me. 203.172.255.150

[edit] Background before she met/married Crown Prince

Have any solid details of her background before she met/married Prince Vajiralongkorn been made public? I haven't heard anything, except for rumors. I'm not really sure what the secrecy is about - King Bhumibol's mother was a commoner. Patiwat 03:35, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

  • Done. Turns out there wasn't that much secrecy about things - just that there isn't that much information to go around. Her original surname is nowhere to be found. Also not sure exactly what she graduated with at Bangkok Accounting College: high school diploma, vocational degree (Por Wor Chor), or associate degree (Por Wor Sor). Patiwat 04:19, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Most of us know her real back ground but we cant say it or make it public

Have any of you seen those pictures?.....nice huh?

Yes!!!!


Actually, the name Srirasmi is not at all common. She might not have been born with that name. Most likely, she was uniquely re-named to fit the royal title. Simply making it different from ordinary people. However, this is only the probability . By the way, those photos are dangerous materials. Rachmaninoff

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