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Contents 1 AMCOTW 2 Grappler Baki 3 Anime and Manga Project 4 Nice! 5 Subst'ing templates? 6 Invitation 7 Redirect 'fixing' 8 Image Tagging for Image:Gaken alice mikan.jpg 9 Image Tagging for Image:Gaken_alice_natsumi.jpg 10 loving the infoboxes! 11 Rozen Maiden 12 Template:Hdeity infobox 13 Cowboy Bebop 14 About the Project Page 15 Opinion desired 16 SLOW DOWN with the stubs a bit 17 Categories at Air 18 MegaTokyo 19 WP:JA assessment help 20 Re: User 24.4.105.240 21 Bubblegum Crisis Work of Fiction As Factual Topic 22 Transformers template 23 FLCL evaluation 24 Image tagging for Image:Mahoraba.jpg 25 Template talk:Infobox Anime episode documentation 26 Fansites? 27 Assessments 28 Articles you might like to edit, from SuggestBot 29 Assesment of Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san 30 Template:Infobox animanga/Manga 31 Article rating 32 Wikiproject:Italian Football 33 RahXephon assessment 34 Sweatdrop Studios 35 New articles 36 Expansion of WP:A-League 37 Crowd fix for Qld Roar round 9 game 38 Hikaru Kawamura 39 Image:School rumble.jpg 40 Serial Experiments Lain

[edit] AMCOTW

I've seen that you started a new collaboration. To make it work it probably needs to be advertised more. I told people at the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Anime_and_manga that the collaboration exists. It might also be a good idea to inform others on the talk pages of famous manga about the collaboration and which nominations are on at the moment. If you know a lot about the anime coverage at wikipedia, you might find it easy to start the collaboration of with a few good nominations. --Fenice 21:34, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Grappler Baki

The name change is fine. I had named it under the title it was released in the US as because of earlier problems that were had when I created Stratos 4. There's no specific policy on naming conventions, it's just thought that the best title for the article should be the one that is most common in English, which Grappler Baki is. I just didn't want to be caught up in another possible naming problem. - Rudykog 18:04, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anime and Manga Project

I saw what you stated on my talk page, but I'm uncertain as to how to put the new template on my page. I'm rather new to this, so I was wondering what goes into the PAGENAME area of the template. Thanks in advance. ^^ Amina 02:05, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nice!

I love the work you're doing on Ojamajo Doremi's pages. At first I was doubtful, but recently the layout and information have been excellent, and though I know I myself haven't contributed much, I'd just like to say that it's looking really good! Thanks for all your work on it. ^^ Amina 23:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Responding to what you put on my talk page. XD Anyway, I didn't know WhisperToMe was an admin... I thought for sure he wanted to, but wasn't quite one yet. Does it say on his page? Oh yep... in the userbox... I hadn't seen that before. -_- Oh well, though - I guess if another adminstrator sees the page and agrees with us, we could change it back to Ojamajo Doremi. Amina 00:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Subst'ing templates?

I must admit, I really don't understand why you took it upon yourself to go out and subst {{-}} in a dozen articles. You said something about "reducing server strain" but the effect of using a single small template (especially after caching) is pretty much non-existent. In the future I would encourage you to get some kind of consensus before implementing template substituting changes. Thanks. --Cyde Weys 02:57, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Invitation

Please come over to my test page and see what you think. It's really rough right now, but I think we could do something with it to make all the Japan-related articles better, as well as better coordinate everyone's efforts. --日本穣 05:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Welcome to the project. (^_^) --日本穣 Nihonjoe 17:24, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Redirect 'fixing'

You may wish to read Wikipedia:Redirects#Don't fix links to redirects that aren't broken, I think I've seen you adding a fair few roots in [[root|redirect]] when the link was already working as intended. --zippedmartin 22:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for your link to that redirect guideline. I had no idea about that and I was under the misconception that redirects were counterproductive. All that time I spent changing OVA links to Original Video Animation... grr, wasted my time. Anyway I see where you are coming from about the shōjo page, there are a lot of mangaka and magazine articles that refer to shōjo manga specifically but a lot of anime pages refer to the shōjo genre, so yes there definately has to be a shōjo page. It's whether or not there needs to be a separate page for shōjo manga that I'm concerned with. By the way, have you thought about joining WikiProject Anime and manga?

I rewrote it. Not keen on joining clubs really, I wanna edit free! Ehem... er... Anyway, off for weekend now. --zippedmartin 18:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Gaken alice mikan.jpg

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I made the info more clear, Squilibob. It's amazing how often OrphanBot gets things wrong. The source info was already there, but wasn't as specific. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 06:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image Tagging for Image:Gaken_alice_natsumi.jpg

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Fixed this one, too. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 18:45, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] loving the infoboxes!

nice work on ronin warriors and tekkaman blade.--Dangerous-Boy 04:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Rozen Maiden

Hey, do you feel up to splitting Rozen Maiden in the same way we did ToHeart?

And while we're talking about ToHeart, what do you feel needs adding to the ToHeart2 (anime) article, besides summarised descriptions and some pictures?

Karn-b 15:54, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

hahahaha, then get watching! :p But I suppose it would be better to leave it as it is for now, until it becomes really unmanageable. I really like the character format they use.

Have you watched Mahoromatic? It seems there are very few versed with this one and very few edits are being made.

I am guilty of not having watched ToHeart2 myself, but will get around to it soon. I'll probably start work on it around 2 weeks time, when time permits. Karn-b 06:21, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, my bad. When I first came to the Mahoromatic article, there was hardly anything....I recently added the characters and the descriptions, but I haven't watched it in so long that I don't remember everything. The spoiler tag definately needs to be moved though.

The problem is, I'm not versed with other anime in the same way I have ToHeart under my belt...I need to get watching and reading again. Mahoromatic, Mahoraba, Ichigo Marshimaro and Animal Yokocho along with TH2 are all ones on your list which I could help with once I get up to scratch with them again. Yokocho...I need to buy the manga - hard to buy shoujo manga at a store you know! People look!

I won't be able to do much the next month, as I'll pretty much be away. Are there any articles you're actually concentrating on right now?

Karn-b 13:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Hdeity infobox

May be you could lend a hand in making this template since you have godly template making skills. I'm trying to get this Hindu diety indox for the Hindu gods and goddesses sections. I have an outline done but the coding is too complicated for me.--Dangerous-Boy 05:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Thanks a lot, dude. I'll get back to you after I test it out!--Dangerous-Boy 07:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I tested it out on Template talk:Hdeity infobox

Can you make all the tables optional except the image and Devanagari for? Here are the problems that still need to be worked out:

1. Mantra and weapon don't show up probably when filled in with the word test
2. Consort does not show up.

I think that's it for now.--Dangerous-Boy 08:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

Everything seems to work great. just one more thing. can you justify the infobox to the right instead of the left?--Dangerous-Boy 09:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

The article text doesn't seem to realigning itself to the left when the infobox is inserted. The infobox pushes the text way down.--Dangerous-Boy 09:44, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

It's perfect! Thanks a lot for your help. This probably would not have been possible without you.--Dangerous-Boy 10:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

When I insert the template into the Indra article, the Template:IndicText seems to throw off the alignment.--Dangerous-Boy 20:47, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

I tried the alignment thing like you said but it didn't work. I put an example of the problem on the Template talk:Hdeity infobox.--Dangerous-Boy 08:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Hm. I guess it wouldn't hurt to include the indic text template into infobox template. Probably would save space. Go ahead its no trouble for you. --Dangerous-Boy 09:58, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Is the caption table supposed to provide a caption display function when the mouse cursor is over the image? If it is, I don't think it's working properly unless the wikification of a word nullifies the function. I inserted the infobox into a couple of articles. it looks pretty good. Check them out if you're interested:

1. Garuda
2. Indra
3. Yama
4. Saraswati
5. Agni
6. Brahma
7. Ganesha

--Dangerous-Boy 20:40, 17 May 2006 (UTC)

Can you make one more table addition to the template? The section is for an editor to add the local script of the area the deity is from. The editor should be able to input the script name in the blue box and the script itself in the clear box next it. Would it possible? By the way, your box is great. Even with copying someone else's template, there would still be quirks to work out. We probably wouldn't have this without your help!--Dangerous-Boy 07:26, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Perfect! thanks.--Dangerous-Boy 09:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cowboy Bebop

Do you want to moved the characters to their own page? The person on Talk:Cowboy Bebop disagrees with this. Also, can you create a template for cowboy bebop like:

?--Dangerous-Boy 18:45, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About the Project Page

Hi, erm, you seem pretty peeved at me. I'd like to resolve these issues peacefully if we can.

The grading scheme

I didn't move it to another page. That is an already existing scheme created by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for grading all articles. So it seemed space-consuming and redundant to have it there. A general grading scheme not specific to the project was taking up a large portion of the page and I didn't feel that it was relevant.

Infoboxes

I put the animanga infobox example there initially because there already was a Convention infobox there (which I had nothing to do with). If you look at this, you'll see where I got the inspiration to include an example infobox. The one at that project helped me learn the ropes of that infobox very quickly. I believe at the time there were no example infoboxes on the template page. You can remove the Project page examples if you see fit, or ask everyone else what they think.

However, I think we need to revise the template/its examples. For instance, the "ja_name_trans" variable is very inconsistently used. It leads me to believe it wants the translated japanese title, whereas the examples show the romanized title. What's the deal?

The examples also don't encourage the user to use flagicons (not sure what your stance is on those), and they are another example of fair-use images being used on non-article-namespace pages. We need to revise these.

Phorque (talk • contribs) 10:54, 06 June 2006 (UTC)
"I still don't think you understand the point I'm trying to make", but I do. I said I'm fine with those example boxes being removed and I'm going to do so myself right now. I have moved over to your side! We have consensus! The example infoboxes are unnecessary clutter.

But do you not agree we must improve the examples on the template page? I think I'll move the "Adventures of Wikipedia" to the template page too. - Phorque (talk • contribs) 12:43, 06 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Opinion desired

Squilibob, I'm not sure as to the etiquette involed in these situations, so please forgive if I trespass! SeizureDog and I have disagreed on the assessment of Neon Genesis Evangelion as an A-class article, but have agreed to seek outside opinion. Would you mind looking the matter over?--Monocrat 18:40, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] SLOW DOWN with the stubs a bit

• Squilli, most of your stubs are looking pretty pathetic. "____ is an anime." is just too lazy even for a stub. Just for a quick comparision, see an average stub of mine compared to one of yours. Mine: Lament of the Lamb, Yours: Gokudo. There's not much difference, I have a quick sentence telling in very rough terms what the manga is about and also a picture. But that small addition makes a HUGE difference in usefullness. For mine, a read at least gets "Alright, vampires. Cool, I get it." but with yours it's like...no freaking clue. Seriously though, just read the ANN paragraph and rephrase it to something stupidly short. It's better than nothing. Also, adding a picture would be nice, but I'll let that slide for now. Finally, consider adding the following to your pages.

==References==
 <div class="references-small">
 *{{cite web
 | url = 
 | title = 
 | publisher = Anime News Network
 | language = English
 | accessdate = ####-##-##
 }}
 </div>

It's not much more to copy, and we get ourselves a reference section to boot. Serves as a good example for future edits to be sure to cite more often. --SeizureDog 00:31, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• I turn it into a reference because a)references for animes are hard enough to do as it is, b)I AM using it for a reference after all and c)external links to me implies general sites, not specfic sections. How are you sure the description is inaccurate if you haven't seen it? And if you've seen it then why not just write something off of memory?--SeizureDog 01:28, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• "Up to par" = Good article standard.--SeizureDog 03:29, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

• It doesn't cover the game at all. Or the manga. Or the light novels. Or hardly anything else. Right now, it's mostly a character list, and that's a Start.--SeizureDog 06:06, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Categories at Air

Um, yeah. Don't do that. That's not how categories work at all. Plus, the new category would need to be "Air series", not "Air (video game)" but that shouldn't even be made yet. --SeizureDog 05:29, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] MegaTokyo

It's not actually a manga, as the article itself states: "Its writing and art styles are heavily influenced by Japanese manga." We might still can consider it part of the project, but I'd like for it to be discussed first.--SeizureDog 10:42, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] WP:JA assessment help

Thanks for helping with the Japan-related assessment of articles. (^_^) ···日本穣^{? · Talk to Nihonjoe} 18:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: User 24.4.105.240

I sincerely apologize if my reverts were incorrect. I reverted those edits as the statements added were uncited and seemed quite informal, so I interpreted them as vandalism. Also the lack of an edit summary didn't help. Anyway I am not knowledgeable about that particular topic & if you feel the edits were genuine, please feel free to revert back. Thanks --Srikeit ^{(Talk | Email)} 07:06, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bubblegum Crisis Work of Fiction As Factual Topic

I have noted your addition to the header of the Bubblegum Crisis article, and wish to have you clarify certain matters. Having read through the guidelines stated, the article by and large fits them, and specifically sites episodes and secondary material throughout. Could you direct me to some specific reasons that made it necessary for this topic header to be added? I think everyone who has been editing the Bubblegum Crisis article is appreciative of all assistance in making it as good an article as possible (though it needs some revision, obviously).

Wbd 14:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Transformers template

Can you make a standard transformers template? it should contain:

1. Title: Transformers Character
2. image
3. name
4. Affiliation
5. Sub-Group
6. Function
7. Partner
8. Motto
9. Alternate mode(s)
10. Series Transformers:
11. Voiced by

some example are on: Optimus Prime Megatron Metroplex (Transformers)

--D-Boy 06:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you add partner under function? Some transformers combine with another transformer. Everything else seems to be working--D-Boy 08:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Can you add Maximal and Predacon under affiliation? Here's the symbol for Predacon.:Image:Predacon symbol.jpg--D-Boy 04:08, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FLCL evaluation

I'm currently in the middle of a project to improve FLCL and its related family of articles as much as possible, and I've just finished adding A/M Project evaluations to their talk pages. I only changed your assessment twice - on FireStarter and... I can't remember the other one - because I felt they'd gotten better. Thanks for helping us get everything organized, and if you'd like, it would be a great help if you'd vote for FLCL at WP:AID, where it is currently a candidate for improvement. -Litefantastic 23:45, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Template talk:Infobox Anime episode documentation

want to handle this like Template talk:Infobox Oh My Goddess! character? :) --Cat out 20:03, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Fansites?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Catgirl#Fansites
"In line with Wikipedia policy on fansites, all but the webring has been moved from External links again."
Policy? --Raijinili 19:19, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Assessments

Hello! Thanks for your recent assessments of Sailor Moon articles; it's encouraging to know where we stand. :) I have a request related to that. You hit a couple of our villain-group pages right before a big merging effort, and I wondered if you'd be willing to look at them again. They were stubs before, and I think they could be B-class now. The ones in question are Dark Kingdom and, in particular, Shadow Galactica. Black Moon Clan isn't quite done with its merging yet, and Dead Moon Circus needs a bunch of cleanup, but I'll probably eventually drop you a note about those as well. :) Thanks again for your reviews! We really appreciate it. --Masamage 02:29, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

That was fast! Thanks enormously for taking another look--and for the terminology correction, heh. --Masamage 07:55, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

I'd give you a Barnsakura for your tireless work assessing articles, were it not for the Big Red Notice saying not to. Shiroi Hane 12:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

I like my big red notice. --Squilibob 13:02, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

An ASCII Barnsakura, maybe? --Masamage 17:43, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Just wanted to say you're doing an awesome job on getting through all those article assessments. -- Ned Scott 07:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

No one said we couldn't put the thing on your main user page. ;P --tjstrf 07:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Assesment of Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san

History shows you put in that Ichigeki Sacchu!! HoiHoi-san is rated B-class. According to the criteria means that

"it has significant gaps or missing elements or references, needs substantial editing for English language usage and/or clarity, balance of content, or contains other policy problems such as copyright, Neutral Point Of View (NPOV) or No Original Research (NOR)."

If you could be more specific I might be able to do something. As it stands now with no specifics it is hard to do something constructive and adding just for adding will typically attact more negative comments.

Also it is unclear to me just who did the grading and where the log of that discussion can be found. --21:33, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Constructive commenst are welcome. I propose such should always be made available to avoid working blind in attempted but directionless improvements. Edits are underway. More will come. Thanks. Note that I post from a dynamic IP that can change at any time.

--20:10, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Infobox animanga/Manga

I figured out how to make the show/hide list you implemented not be illegibly tiny when expanded. For everyone but one user I've talked to, at least, it now works nicely.

I'm mentioning this for two reasons: 1st, to congratulate you for the excellent idea. 2nd, because I changed the optional parameter name for the manga box from translated_publisher to publisher_other. So if you have added the feature to any articles other than Rurouni Kenshin, it will need fixed. --tjstrf 02:51, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Article rating

Hi again. Would you mind terribly popping over and reevaluating Sailor Stars? We think it's a B by now, but of course we are biased. ^^ Thank you very much! --Masamage 07:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikiproject:Italian Football

Hi ya. I see you add to Italian Football articles from time to time. Just wondering if you want to check out Wikipedia:Italian Football. We are just hoping to organise our efforts towards improving articles better. If you want to sign up just put your name down under participants on the project. You can do as much or as little work as you like and any ideas on improving pages would be great. Niall123 19:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RahXephon assessment

Hi. There's no longer a section stub in RahXephon an the NGE section has been hit with a reliable source hammer. No more forum post references. Care to re-assess the article and comment about what's missing in it? --GunnarRene 12:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

See also: Talk:RahXephon/to do

As far as I understand there needs to be some consensus to assess an article higher than Class-B. Are you pushing for Good Article status with RahXephon? --Squilibob 13:41, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, that's right. It's not ready for Good Article status yet, but after some improvement I intend to take it there. Could you leave the assessment on B, and perhaps add a comment on where the article needs to improve the most? --GunnarRene 13:50, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sweatdrop Studios

Thanks to your recent actions the article has grown into something respectable. Only a few problems remain, like citation for Joanna Zhou's involvementin Future Publishing's ImagineFX. As I previously stated in the Sweatdrop Studios discussion page, there is no simple way to retrieve such information as the serial number that accompanies the barcode contains thirteen digits. Msproduct 17:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New articles

Hello again! We've relieved the strain on the main Sailor Moon article and added a lot of new info by creating Sailor Moon (manga) and Sailor Moon (anime). When you have some free time, an assessment would be much appreciated. :) Now that the crowd is getting cleared out of the main article, it'll be a lot easier to put together the needed reception information and get ready for a peer review. Thanks for your input! --Masamage 20:54, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Oh, I see! I didn't know the system worked that way--very cool. :) Thanks for your time, and thanks for the positive reinforcement! I'm having so much fun with this. --Masamage 20:21, 15 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Expansion of WP:A-League

Hi Squilibob,

Just thought I'd let you know there is currently a proposal to expand WikiProject A-League to include all areas of football/soccer in Australia, including the NSL, A-League, Socceroos, state leagues and more. A more formal proposal page can be found here. Please indicate whether you support the idea or not at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject A-League, and also add your 2c about what the new project should be called. Cheers! – AlbinoMonkey ^(Talk) 04:14, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Crowd fix for Qld Roar round 9 game

Thanks for that - don't worry about recalculating all the tables/averages etc. - I adjusted my spreadsheet that I keep, and the change will be factored in when I update the table on Sunday night. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 12:14, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Whoops, I see you had already fixed them... I'm half-asleep at the moment. Well, my spreadsheet says you're correct, so good work! Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 12:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

Responded on User talk:Daniel.Bryant. Daniel.Bryant 12:27, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hikaru Kawamura

Why did you redirect Hikaru Kawamura to Hikaru Shindo? Hikaru Kawamura is a real person! WhisperToMe 00:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

It's fine now - I found it and made a small stub :) WhisperToMe 00:39, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:School rumble.jpg

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[edit] Serial Experiments Lain

Hi Squilibob! I thought you might want to know that Serial Experiments Lain is going through FAC, so you could comment on it. In this aspect, the article needs serious copyediting to pass, so any help (or delation of good copyeditos) is most welcome.--SidiLemine 17:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)