Talk:Spring (device)

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This article needs a major rewrite. (Springs are not just toys...) Jorge Stolfi 12:40, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Go on then! - 82.33.96.38 13:28, 14 May 2004 (UTC)

Contents 1 Proposals for improvement 2 Suggested Deletion 3 Plagiarism by another site? 4 Captions 5 Merge in of Coil spring

[edit] Proposals for improvement

This article would be much better if it had photos of the various spring types. The descriptions given here leave the novice completely confused.

I am seriously thinking of rewriting some sections from the point of view of a retired machine designer who has experience at selecting and specifying springs of all types. Before doing this I have to take time to learn how to work with wikipedia.

Don't worry too much about learning to use Wikipedia; as I'm sure you know, one of the best ways to learn how to do something is to simply do it! Wikipedia has a motto: be bold! The Wikipedia FAQ has lots of helpful info as well. And if you screw up a little, there are folks watching this page who can help out. (Remember, all the old versions of a page are saved and easily accessible via the page "History" so you can't do any permanent harm.)

By the way, it's usual to sign posts to "Talk" pages by typing ~~~~. This adds your username in a handy format and also includes a timestamp of when you made the edit.

Atlant 11:46, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the encouraging words and the tip on signing my posts. I have a lot of information that I would like to publish on the subject of selecting and applying mechanical components. Now if I could only find that damned spell checker. ~~~~.

Apparently my I did not succeed at signing the above paragraph. I was logged in as "Renard". What did I do wrong? ~~~~.

Don't use the nowiki tags! I included them just so that the four tildes that I put there to show to you wouldn't automagically be turned into my signature. Just type four tildes with nothing special around them.

Atlant 19:25, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

OK let's try this again. Renard 21:54, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Bingo!

Atlant 00:04, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just to echo Atlant's comment that you don't have to worry too much about formatting and learning wiki syntax before editing an article. If you have useful material to add, you can just hit the edit button on the article page and start typing and save the result. One of the marvels of Wikipedia, is that before long a couple of other editors will pop out of the woodwork and fix up the formatting, typos, links etc. Its almost worth doing just to watch it happen. :) -- Solipsist 05:52, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Just to re-echo Atlant's comment, Wikipedia only works well when it's fun. This is fun. See User:Andrewa/creed. Andrewa 05:59, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Its almost worth doing just to watch it happen.

Oho! So you're the wiseguy that does that! :-) (Actually, there are several typos that I routinely make, and no matter how many times I Show preview, I can't be sure of catching them all so I really, really appreciate the fact that someone always saves my bacon on them. What Solipsist said is definitely true!)

Atlant 11:14, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

I have tried several times to get started without success. It looks like I am going to need some help. I understand that this is not the place for general questions. Where should I go to ask some questions re starting a new page, and uploading photos? Renard 21:46, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

A good place to ask general How-to questions is at the Wikipedia:Help desk. The starting point for instructions on uploading images is at Wikipedia:Uploading images. -- Solipsist 08:07, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Suggested Deletion

I think that the entire paragraph titled "Custom Fabrication of Springs" should be eliminated. First, it is NOT easy to fabricate springs as the author states. To simply wrap some music wire around a bolt by hand would not work very well. The coil spacing would be irregular, and the spring rate would not be consistent. In the case of extension springs (the type where the coils are wound adjacent to one another) you would have to twist the music wire while wrapping it on the mandrel in order to generate a pre-load. This is not feasible to do by hand. Renard 21:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Plagiarism by another site?

I was doing a search on google and I noticed that this site: [1] appears to have copied the contents of this article without any mention of wikipedia in an attempt to get people to click on the ads that surround the page. I'm not sure what to do about this, so I'm posting it here and hoping a more experienced user can inform the right people. Oh and there seems to be a claim in the bottom left corner that this is their content: “2000-2005 guideofcasinos.com” --Canageek 21:49, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

Good catch!

It's been listed for at least a month at Mirrors and Forks with its non-compliance noted. Hopefully the person who listed it also sent a standard GFDL violation letter. It should also be listed at Wikipedia:GFDL Compliance but doesn't seem to be yet. That's about all we can do, other than sticking pins into a wax model of their server. Andrewa 05:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Captions

I'm not convinced that this edit is an improvement at all. Designed to be used for isn't accurate IMO. We could say designed to be used under or designed to be used in, but I don't see what was wrong with the original designed for. Andrewa 08:46, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

In that no-one speaks, I've gone back to designed for. This is accurate, and IMO perfectly good English. I've left the or coil although I think that would be better placed in the article rather than in the caption. Andrewa 15:48, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Merge in of Coil spring

I think Coil spring should remain separate because there are dozens of links to it, mainly from car articles, which are only concerned with this type of spring. It could then be further expanded to cover its particular properties and characteristics. Indeed Torsion spring, Leaf spring, and cantilever spring each have their own articles. Perhaps the piece about coil springs in 'Spring (device)' should be reduced a bit, and rely on the link to 'coil spring'. -De Facto 15:20, 26 May 2006 (UTC)

Flags removed after a month with no support. -De Facto 20:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)