User talk:SportWagon

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Johann Wolfgang [ T ...C ]

00:45, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

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:::Okay, these elephant journals agree with me:
:::* ''Elephants Monthly''
:::* ''Elephants World''
:::— [[Wikipedia:User page|try2BEEhelpful]] 19:09, 12 Dec 2003 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I replied to your comment on my talk page. Feel free to delete this comment if you'd like. Gflores ^Talk 06:31, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Requesting comment...

Hi, I am trying to create a new welcome message. The templated welcome message I feel provides too many links. I started creating one which I feel is better and more suited to a true Wikipedian beginner. I was wondering if you could give me suggestions or just comment on it. Thanks. Gflores ^Talk 20:13, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Here it is:

[edit] Welcome, from Gflores

Hello, SportWagon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for joining. You may be interested in the Wikipedia Tutorial. If there are three things you must know before editing, these are it:

• When commenting on a talk page of an article or user, always sign your comments by typing four ~ like so, Gflores ^Talk 20:14, 7 January 2006 (UTC). this will automatically produce your name and the date.
• Creating an internal link to another page in Wikipedia is done easily by enclosing a word or series of words in double brackets.
• Content you add, whether it's text or pictures, must not violate any copyright laws.

Wondering what to do on Wikipedia?

• Expand an article pertaining to your interest. Browse related categories.
• Join a group of people in one of the many WikiProjects and find out how to help.
• Collaborate with other Wikipedians each week in expanding an article in need of improvement.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on the Help Desk or on my talk page. Again, welcome!

Gflores / ^{Talk to me!}

[edit] Reply to New Welcome

Gflores, I have replied on your talk page to your request for comments. I'll cleanup my talk page soon. Oh. I see you are "taking a break"?--SportWagon 23:58, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

Actually, I've been back, I just didn't take the message down. Thanks for your reply, I'll work on my welcome message sometime soon. Also, if you need some help on the article you created or have any questions in general. Also, don't feel as though you have to make it perfect or have an obligation to edit it. Gflores ^Talk 00:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC)

• By "it" you do mean my Legends of Motorsport article?
• If I don't edit it, others will, unless they just forget about. ;) --SportWagon

Do you have a reason for not simply saying, "There are three things you must know before editing:" ? When creating the welcome message, I wanted to make it as simple as possible and for the new user to not be overwhelmed by a ton of links. I think there are only three things they need to know before editing (copyright, notability, and NPOV). As far as the Wiki syntax, there is a lot that needs to be learned. There are a few questions that are asked over and over again in the help desk, which I would like to cover. (signing, images, searching). I also would like to mention the WikiToolbar that has the bold, italics, etc that may be useful to many people. As you can see I have a lot of ideas, but it's definitely not organized and so that's why I have abandoned the new welcome message. Thanks for the revision anyway. :) Gflores ^Talk 00:00, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Suicide doors

I've done the research on the NPOV check you've requested. To sum up: In my opinion, the disputed portion does, in fact, adhere to a neutral POV. However, it failed a fact-check against citable resources. I've put my findings and a citation on the talk page. -- Shinmawa 06:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Improved version of Gflores Welcome Page

Hello, SportWagon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for joining. You may be interested in the Wikipedia Tutorial. To help get started, you might want to edit this message itself, to see what special codes it uses.

If there are three things you must know before editing, these are it:

• When commenting on a talk page of an article or user, always sign your comments by typing four ~ like so, ~~~~. This will automatically produce your name and the date., For example Gflores ^Talk 20:14, 7 January 2006 (UTC).
• Creating an internal link to another page in Wikipedia is done easily by enclosing a word or series of words in double brackets. E.g. [[Wikipedia Foundation]] to give Wikipedia Foundation.
• Content you add, whether it's text or pictures, must not violate any copyright laws.

Wondering what to do on Wikipedia?

• Expand an article pertaining to your interest. Browse related categories.
• Join a group of people in one of the many WikiProjects and find out how to help.
• Collaborate with other Wikipedians each week in expanding an article in need of improvement.

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! If you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask on the Help Desk or on my talk page. Again, welcome!

Gflores / ^{Talk to me!}

[edit] Legends of Motorsport

I read the article again and made some changes. A link you might want to read (Wikipedia:Avoid_weasel_terms), in addition to No original research. I had to remove a few lines b/c of NOR and weasel terms. I like to keep in mind that this is an encyclopedia, like Britannica, that will be read by many. It should present all the facts and not be like a fan site. Excessive linking is just a guideline, not policy. Lastly, many articles on WP are unfortunately plagued by these issues, so don't fret. :) -- Gflores

Feel free to add some of the stuff I removed rephrased. I don't nearly know as much about the show as you do, so it's up you. :) -- Gflores

Thanks for removing the nasty-looking banners. --SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Some episodes therefore, really did not seem to suit the series title of Legends of Motorsport.

Okay, why did I put that there? If you look through the history, you will see that Matthead, who I suspect may have never seen the series, somehow mistook the meaning of my "all based around vintage automobile footage, mostly racing.", and changed it to "all based around vintage racing footage, mostly automobile". There (nearly?) always was a tenuous link to "Legends of Motorsport". For example, a somewhat bland description of "BMC: The British Motor Car" was documenting the company which produced the Mini-Cooper and other performance cars. But some of the episodes (including the current ones) were/are not about racing and only vaguely about motorsport. I can argue that my explanation was there to explain or affirm the paradox which most readers would notice. I have not put that back. I hope my other changes aren't edit-warring. I've added embedded comments to the article since it is possible. I'm not sure that's the best place to do that, but I thought I'd try.--SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Ok, that seems acceptable. Did I remove something like that? Gflores ^Talk 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

You do appear to have lost the parts which indicate that most episodes were like a true trip back in time to seeing a (nearly) complete film from the time of the event, rather than just a standard narration-over-archival footage format. At the current time I've put half back. Does mentioning that most episodes were complete historical third-party publicity films somehow violate a policy? David Hobbs clearly states the episodes are such in some of the currently-running episodes. I think understanding that adds to a reader's understanding of the series--SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

I think I may have misunderstood here. I got the impression that the episodes, in your opinion, were made to garner publicity (like advertising). Is it really a publicity film? If not, then that word probably doesn't need to be there. Gflores ^Talk 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

P.S. Overall, I'm glad you made it shorter. One approach to clarification was to lengthen, and I really don't think the series warrants that large an article, even though I (obviously?) do like it. I will miss "Now who might that be?", though... --SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Honestly, I didn't quite understand that paragraph, probably b/c I'm not familiar with the show. I should've talked to you about it. If you think it belongs in the article, add it back in. :) Actual subject matter and narration style is ok. Just no opinions or subjective terms. Also, in case you don't know, you yourself can remove the banners (called templates). Gflores ^Talk 00:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

P.P.S. This is the first time I've "crossed edits". I guess you tersely addressed my main concern, and I'm going to proceed cautiously rather than egotistically.  :) --SportWagon 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Legends of Motorsport

Your article is generally NPOV, some might say otherwise. You are not breaking WP:NOR, that applies to something not previously known, or a new theory (for example). If you need any help please feel free to leave a message.
Johann Wolfgang 23:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Temp

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[edit] Re: Adjudicate Gran Turismo intro, okay?

Hello! I have removed the tag. Please feel free to remove such clean up tags whenever you feel the article does not need it anymore. Your introduction is fine enough, and splitting it into sections is most times the correct way of doing so, as it effectively shortened the length while keeping the same information in the article. If the editors of the article later believe it should be longer, they will add more contents. -- ReyBrujo 04:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reference Point for My Watchlist

The creation or changing of this section is a convenient reference point when I view my Watchlist.--SportWagon 19:28, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sudoku Thought -- add later, maybe

It seems to me, but I could be wrong, that there is a distinction between solving a puzzle given the assurance that it has a single unique solution, and analyzing an arbitrary partial grid to determine its number of possible solutions. The knowledge of a unique solution is (a small amount of) extra information. The application of set inference to candidate value elimination seems obvious. I believe it can be done for position elimination as well, but I've never thought of it at all formally that way. (Each value for each region would have a set of candidate positions, candidates of which can be eliminated until there is only one left; in practice, for difficult puzzles I do this by visual inspection of my contingencies on "cheat sheets"--that is, when simple ranging doesn't work or I overlook it).--SportWagon 23:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Testing Welcome

To welcome a new user, you can use the following template, which will one-time dynamically change into text. AFAICT.

See...

• Template:Welcome
• subst

{{subst:welcome}}

Welcome!

Hello, SportWagon, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are some pages that you might find helpful:

• The five pillars of Wikipedia
• How to edit a page
• Help pages
• Tutorial
• How to write a great article
• Manual of Style

I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian! Please sign your name on talk pages using four tildes (~~~~); this will automatically produce your name and the date. If you need help, check out Wikipedia:Questions, ask me on my talk page, or place {{helpme}} on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! 

Perhaps compare with (incorrect to use for this)...

{{welcome}}

• As we later found out, that will attract WinBot which will add the required "subst:" for you.--SportWagon 17:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Perhaps try...

<div style="padding: 5px; background: #B0D360; border: 1px solid #C35817;">

{{subst:welcome}} --''~~~~''

</div>

I'm sure there must be "colour box" templates somewhere, but I've not managed to track them down.--SportWagon 15:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Tempt WinBot again, but with code tags this time

Let's see if WinBot changes the following welcome to subst:welcome (first line is the code)...

<code><nowiki>{{welcome}}</nowiki></code>

{{welcome}}

--SportWagon 15:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

My apologies for changing the code within nowiki. WinBot is designed to subst user talk page templates with list generated from "what transcludes here". I believe that it was the un-susbst'ed welcome template in your user talk page brings WinBot to here and changed the template in the nowiki sections also. It should normally not happen as long as your page don't contain any un-subst'ed user talk templates as stated in WP:SUBST. Sorry for any inconvenience caused. --WinHunter ^(talk) 02:23, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Alright, so there you have it. The incorrect substitution only occurs if you have a true bad example on your page.--SportWagon 17:35, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Color boxes (tables), for adding to my reference later

The following is not terribly interesting, as far as I can tell. Perhaps I am missing something.

{{colorbox|red}}

    

Proper colo[u]red boxes can be created using the table primitives which are often used in template creation.

{|

|-

!bgcolor="green"|

{|

|-

!bgcolor="pink" align="left"| An arbitrarily large amount of text can be placed here. This is a table element, of sorts.

|-

|}

|-

|}

An arbitrarily large amount of text can be placed here. This is a table element, of sorts.

See Help:Table for more info.--SportWagon 18:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)