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[edit] In-Flight deaths

Sure, the Soviets had fewer in-flight deaths, but overall more Cosmonauts died. Remember many of the failures were kept secret from the public until the fall of the Soviet Union.

Wrong. There was maybe more land accidents, but only 4 cosmonauts died.
Only 4 died during spaceflight, but there were more Soviet fatalities than American during training. (Offhand, I can think of 4 or 5 deaths of active cosmonauts, depending on if Gagarin's co-pilot was a cosmonaut. Most of these were made public at the time, since they were cosmonauts who had previously flown. The main exception was Bonderenko. Also, I'm not counting ex-cosmonauts.) Someone is going to have to do a statistical analysis as to which had a higher percentage, although I suspect that the percentages for the two programs were rather similar. CFLeon 22:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clean-Up, Please

Oh my god, this article is packed with grammar/typo errors. We need to clean this up. I nailed a couple, but am going to bed. Anyone wanna help? --Yeorin

I've done some editing; mainly deleting two sections (In-flight Deaths, and Reliability) that were extremely opinionated and did not concern the SOVIET program but reflected current circumstances. I couldn't rephrase them well enough to save either, so I just tossed them. Sorry, if anyone thinks they can return to a NPOV, please try; but don't just give numbers out of context and then say one is BETTER. (And whether or not companies use Russian rockets nowadays to launch satellites is pointless to discussing the Soviet Program) I also rephrased a few spots to be present tense, gave years for records and firsts, and alphabetized the links section. Still needs a lot of work, though. One thing very important is to decide is this entry on the Soviet Program ONLY? If so, the '90s records need to be excised. Also, there should be more on the years after Korolev, who died in 1965, 25 years before the Soviet Union fell. CFLeon 22:33, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
Some more clean-up today: added some more records and deleted one (1998 orbital launch from submarine) as being non-Soviet. I'm also going to need the actual names of the first launches to Mars and Venus. Or is it better to rephrase it as first probes that actually succeeeded in BEING launched? CFLeon 21:23, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Russian = Soviet ?

Russian space program redirects here: has Russia stopped their space program since the collapse of the USSR?

Good point; I've changed the redirect to go to Russian Federal Space Agency. siafu 14:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Luna 9

It may be a matter of terminology, but this says tha Luna 9 soft landed. But from what I read, it wasn't really "soft", just survivable (i.e. not a crash). Is that right? Luna 9 and List of space exploration milestones, 1957-1969 both say that Luna 9 soft-landed, so they might need to be corrected. Bubba73 (talk), 00:04, 14 September 2006 (UTC)