Talk:Southwestern University School of Law

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[edit] Organization

First of all, this definitely needs to be merged with the "Southwestern Law School" article because the school is unlikely to drop "university" from their name anytime soon. Secondly, in my opinion, the article should include at least the following sections:

  1. History
  2. Campus
  3. Academics and Reputation
    1. Rankings
  4. Notable Alumni
  5. References
  6. External Links

I added these sections and wrote some text including a pretty solid introduction and history section, creating a "skeleton" article that I hope others will expand on. By the way, I'm Josh Kagan, a student at the school, and my web page is www.JoshKagan.com. Jrkagan

[edit] Larry H. Parker

The ambulance chaser Larry H. Parker is an embarrassment, not a "notable alum." Why would you add someone like him to the list?

If he is well-known enough for you to consider him "an embarrassment" then it seems you've answered your own question. Our goal should be to include those persons who are notable--both good and bad. Also, it seems he is the uncle of the user named Sundevil4life[1], who contributed to an older version of this article; that could explain how Parker came to be included in the first place. Jrkagan

[edit] RANKINGS

I made a single edit to this page. Instead of saying that the school has been able to "recruit much more qualified students", I changed it to say "highly qualified students".

I believe that the former version might be insulting to prior graduates of SWLAW, many of whom are successful and well respected in the legal community.

I don’t know who has added insulting language to the Academics and Reputation section, but knock it off. If you want to write an article criticizing Southwestern, make your own page.

[edit] Revert War over Rankings

70.122.38.179 needs to be blocked. How do we go about that? --Josh Kagan

[[I]] [[am]] [[not]] [[sure]]. [[I]] [[will]] [[look]] [[into]] [[it]].--—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.122.38.179 (talk • contribs).

I'm not sure that wikilinks like that are helpful, whoever you were. --Hjal 05:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Photos

Southwestern’s official website has many photos that are provided to the media. Does this mean the photos are open source and they can be posted on the Wikipedia site? [posted by 24.153.196.197]

No that does not make them "open source," but I think there would be a strong fair use argument if we use them to illustrate something we are describing. In the meantime, you can STOP TRYING TO REMOVE THE INFORMATION ABOUT RANKINGS FROM THE ARTICLE. -Josh Kagan

Look... why would you want to support someone that says the following:

    1. "revised very POV and misleading boastings"
    2. "absolutely loathes wikipedians who use articles to brag about the minor insignificant achievements of themselves, their schools, organizations, or localities"

These statements clearly indicate an agenda that cannot be trusted. There are several of us that have come to the same conclusion.

I don't care about anyone's "agenda." It's accurate, sourced information that, like it or not, belongs in the article. It seems more like you have an agenda to censor Wikipedia. -Josh Kagan
  • How is adding ranking info an "agenda"? How can you have a section entitled "Academics and reputation" but not have ranking info, when U.S. News rankings are the most influential indicator of that? Notice that other law school articles have ranking info, regardless of the ranking. I'm not trying to crap on Southwestern, I've added ranking info to schools that outrank my alma mater as well. Ranking info is fact, and not POV.Taco325i 20:32, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I am not familiar with Wikipedia’s policies re: photos. The usefulness of this page might increase if it is possible to add a section which describes various locations on the campus and provides a photos to add context.

Then do it. It would be nice to see you contribute something to the article instead of removing facts you don't like. -Josh Kagan
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