Talk:South Australia-Victoria border dispute

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[edit] Copyediting

I've done a run through wikifying and copyediting this article. Should the Lord Stanley in para 2 be disambiguated to Edward Stanley, 13th Earl of Derby or Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby? --Scott Davis ^Talk 02:34, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

That is a good question-I dont know-one would have to check the british civle service lists,and check which one had a suitable career. Eric A. Warbuton 04:39, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

The second one became Lord Stanley in 1844, the year in question, according to his article. The first was still alive and had been a politician, too. I lean towards Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby, but am not 100% certain. --Scott Davis ^Talk 05:11, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for your interest in this matter-arcane but important. Have just checked this page Edward Smith-Stanley, 14th Earl of Derby--and your right. Mystery solved Thanks again. Eric A. Warbuton 05:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ambiguity

"This led to the proclaimed border on the ground being at least two miles and 19 chains (3.6 km) to the west of reality." Does this mean that Smalley and Todd's line gave more territory to Victoria? "This 'Disputed Territory' as it was termed contained over 500 square miles (1295 km²) of which 47% had already by 1849 been sold freehold or leased out by the Victorian Government." Why was this a problem? Had the remaining 53% been sold freehold or leased out by the South Australian Government? - Diceman 15:13, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Yes I can see your point-possibly a victorian POV operates. However two different land tenure regimes existed- freehold versus long term tenure. In the end it was about political control of land grants. The land around Mt Gambier is relativley high quality with high rainfall. So Melbourne wanted to hold onto as much of it as possible. Feel free to reword if you want. An entry on the differing land tenures and freehold would be very useful. What do you think? Eric A. Warbuton 03:41, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm still confused about who got more land and what was specifically disputed by the South Australian Government. - Diceman 11:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)