Talk:Sonny Rollins

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I removed the following for vagueness and bias. Tuf-Kat

Sonny's improvisation skills are known to the world as some of the most unique, talented and innovational improvisation styles ever. His great song, St. Thomas remains a favorite of jazz lovers worldwide.

Contents 1 ====== 2 Compositional acumen 3 Featured Music Project evaluation 4 GA Re-Review and In-line citations 5 copyright vio Biography 6 Unjustified Reverts

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Are links to say a discography site appropriate to add?

[edit] Compositional acumen

Though he is not well-known as a composer, several of his tunes (including "St. Thomas", "Oleo", "Alfie's Theme", and "Airegin") have become standards.

This incorrect remark must have been wrote by somebody not entirely au fait with jazz. Sonny Rollins' is well renowned for his compositional skills, which have produced many standards, such as 'Airegin', 'Doxy', 'Oleo', 'Blue Seven', 'St. Thomas' et cetera. As a result, I feel this needs to be changed--Knucmo2 22:18, 12 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Featured Music Project evaluation

Sonny Rollins has been evaluated according to the Featured Music Project criteria, most recently affirmed as of this revision. The article's most important issues are listed below. Since this evaluation, the article may have been improved.

The following areas need work to meet the criteria: Lead - Comprehensiveness - Sales - Pictures - Audio - References

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• Lead: No sectioning whatsoever
• Comprehensiveness: What's there is nice, but there must be more
• Sales: Not mentioned
• Pictures: Needs a fair use rationale, more pics probably needed
• Audio: One present, more needed, integrate into article
• References: Needs inline citations and scholarly works that aren't biographies
• Discography may not be complete, but much more info would probably be better in a subpage
• Format and style are okay, but it needs some copyediting and sectionizing

[edit] GA Re-Review and In-line citations

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[edit] copyright vio Biography

The entire text of the album review that had temporarily replaced the Biography section is from http://www.tedkurland.com/pbuild/linkbuilder.cfm?selection=doc.112 - in case anyone needs documentation to justify its removal. - Special-T 13:05, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Unjustified Reverts

There have been two reverts of reference to Rollins' nickname in the past 24 hrs. It is bad practice to revert without explanation. For external references to the nickname, see [1] and [2] and the title of Rollins' own lp "Newk's Time". AllyD 11:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

I meant to only change two aspects of your edit: 1. the edit to the opening sentence - his nickname is not something that needs to be in the lead sentence of the article, and putting it there made the sentence clunky; and 2. it is 'Ira Gitler', not 'Ira Gilter'. I did not notice the 'Newk' reference later in the article and inadvertently reverted that also. - Special-T 18:01, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

OK, just to be clear though, that it wasn't me who had added that edit. Seeing the succession of edits and reverts and the original editor's comment "no explanation given for reversion of useful information" I thought it better pulled onto the Talk page. Probably better to find a way to embrace and extend the added text rather than revert? AllyD 19:52, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Also, changing an existing valid spelling (Rollins') to another (Rollins's) that a particular editor prefers is against the manual of style - Special-T 18:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)