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[edit] Sozialisticher Jugendverband Karl Liebknecht

I am sorry, but its Sozialistischer Jugendverband Karl Liebknecht. greets guety

[edit] Explicit copyright

You uploaded two of your own photos for the article on Goa: Image:Goaskepp.JPG and Image:Kyrkagoavelha.JPG, what terms do you license them under? GFDL? PD? Boffy b 12:57, 2004 Aug 28 (UTC)

[edit] List of Communist Parties

Thanks for correcting me re the DKP, I hadn't realised they were still around. Could you please weigh in on the issue of listing the Sparticist League. I think that since they are a Trotskyist group and there are no other Trotskyist groups on the list they should be removed (or all other Trotskyist groups should be listed). Another editor, Shorne, insists there are other Trotskyist groups on the list but I see none. AndyL 22:01, 18 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Swedish Social Democratic Party

Could you explain why you changed the name of the party in the lead section from Swedish Social Democratic Party to Social Democratic Party of Sweden, when the article is named Swedish Social Democratic Party? It looks odd. Furthermore, on the party home page the translation "Swedish Social Democratic Party" is used. Also, "Swedish Social Democratic Party" gets 1 690 Google hits and "Social Democratic Party of Sweden" only 127. Although your way might in theory be more accurate, the Wikipedia standard for most Swedish organisations seems to be to adopt the translation used by the organisation itself, and use redirects for other alternatives.

It might be a good idea to create a redirect from Social Democratic Party of Sweden, though. Alarm 16:34, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Sveriges Socialdemokratiska Arbetarparti translates Social Democratic Labour Party of Sweden. Swedish Social Democratic Party would be Svenska Socialdemokratiska Partiet, which would be the different name. However, the day-to-day use of a name might be different from the formal name of an organization. In Sweden the party is generally referred to just as Socialdemokraterna ("Social Democrats"). --Soman 19:33, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Since you talk about the usage in Sweden I get the impression that you read Swedish, so I'll reply in Swedish to save us both some trouble. If I'm mistaken, just tell me, and I'll translate the following into English.

Det finns i mitt tycke tre mycket tunga argument för att behålla "Swedish Social Democratic Party". Två av dem har jag redan nämnt, det tredje kräver en längre förklaring.

Det första, och mest uppenbara, är att så vitt jag kan se använder partiet själv denna form. Det indikerar att man valt den som någon slags officiell översättning, och då finns det goda grunder att använda den. För att göra en analogi med andra svenska organisationsnamn vore det fullständigt vansinnigt att försöka göra en ordagrann översättning av "Landsorganisationen i Sverige" när LO själva valt att använda Swedish Trade Union Confederation eller "Tjänstemännens Centralorganisation" när TCO använder "Swedish Confederation of Professional Employees".

Det andra argumentet är att formen "Swedish Social Democratic Party" också tycks vara den mest använda på engelska - 1 690 träffar på Google. "Social Democratic Party of Sweden" får 127. Och ditt förslag "Social Democratic Labour Party of Sweden" får bara 10 - och de är dessutom från bara fyra olika domäner.

Det tredje argumentet är att ditt påstående att det finns en enda godtagbar översättning av "Sveriges", nämligen "of Sweden" inte är så självklart som det först kan verka. Eftersom du uttrycker dig väldigt bestämt och detta kan ha bäring på fler artikelnamn (du är ju en flitig medarbetare här) så ska jag utveckla vad jag menar. Jag är nämligen mycket tveksam till om en översättare skulle hålla med om ditt påstående. Även om både svenskan och engelskan har samma grammatiska strukturer, med nationalitetsadjektiv ("svensk" och "svenska"/"Swedish") respektive nationsgenitiv ("Sveriges"/"of Sweden") så betyder inte det att användningsområdena är helt identiska från ett språk till ett annat. Det svenska framförställda genitivet i ett ord är mycket smidigare än engelskans prepositionskonstruktion, och därför är det mer använt. Detta går att testa på Google. Om vi för att undvika mätfel väljer länder som inte har något språk vars namn är identiskt med nationalitetsadjektivet (som det är i t.ex. "svenska"/"Swedish" och "turkiska"/"Turkish") så kan man se att de engelska nationsgenitiven proportionellt sett är mycket mindre använda i förhållande till nationalitetsadjektiven än vad fallet är i svenskan. "of Australia" ger 5 miljoner träffar, "Australian" 27 miljoner. Nationalitetsadjektivet är mer än fem gånger så vanligt. Söker vi på svenska sidor (annars får vi en massa tyska träffar) ger "Australiens" 10 700 träffar, medan "australisk OR australiska OR australiensk OR australienskiska" ger 22 900. På svenska är nationalitetsadjektivet alltså bara dubbelt så vanligt. Samma trend får du om du kollar på "Canadian" - nationalitetsadjektivet förekommer proportionellt sett mycket oftare på engelska än på svenska. Det visar tydligt att svenska nationsgenitiv som "Sveriges" ibland kan motsvaras av nationalitetsadjektiv som "the Swedish" på engelska. Det är sannolikt också förklaringen till att många svenska organisationer på samma sätt som de ovan nämnda fackliga centralorganisationerna tycks ha valt "Swedish" snarare än "of Sweden" i de officiella översättningarna av sina namn. Alarm 09:14, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Ok, detta är kanske inte världens viktigaste stridfråga, men ändå. Jag vet att socialdemokraterna använder andra namn på andra språk. På arabiska kallar de sig Demokratiska Socialistiska Partiet. Man kan se detta språkbruk som kontextualiserande. Det är också så att t.ex. svenska riksdagens pressmaterial på engelska översätter Moderaterna till Conservative Party och Folkpartiet till Liberal Party. Jag menar dock att man på Wikipedia bör eftersträva så nära former av översättning som möjligt från orginalnamnet, för att undvika eventuell förvirrig. T.ex. tror jag faktiskt att det skapar förvirring att riksdagenspresstjänst i kortform kalla Moderaterna för PC (Partido Conservador), vilket i de flesta spansktalande länder betyder Partido Comunista.

När det gäller LO så tycker jag det blir lite annorlunda. Språkligt skulle "National Organization in Sweden" låta extremt märkligt. "Social Democratic Labour Party of Sweden" fungerar dock språkligt.

Jag vidhåller att det finns en skillnad mellan Svenska och Sveriges, och att det bör efterspeglas i översättning. Ta exemplet med Svenska Folkpartiet i Finland.

Gällande att sätta nationalitetsgenetiv i artikeltitlar, så tycker jag det är bättre att sätta nationnamnet i parantes, t.ex. Centre Party (Sweden).

Men slutligen tycker jag det bästa vore om artikelnamnet var på orginalspråket, och olika namnformer på engelska omdirigerades dit. --Soman 10:12, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)


Tja, visst finns det viktigare frågor i livet, men jag skulle nog säga att detta har viss betydelse för konsekvens och klarhet. Eftersom du inte ger dig får jag väl försöka förtydliga mina argument, även om det kan tyckas onödigt långrandigt när reglerna stöder min linje. Men jag tycker inte om att bara reverta andras ändringar, jag vill gärna nå konsensus.

På den allra sista punkten håller jag nog med dig, att konsekvent ha organisationsnamn på orginalspråk vore det enklaste och mest konsekventa sättet att hantera saken på. Men nu är det inte så på Wikipedia, och då tror jag att vi får rätta oss efter det (eller driva på för en förändring, men det vet jag inte om jag orkar). Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) börjar så här: "Convention: Name your pages in English and place the native transliteration on the first line of the article unless the native form is more commonly used in English than the anglicized form". Den talar också om att man bör använda "the most commonly used English version of the name for the article" (även om den inte specifikt nämner organisationer som exempel där denna fråga kan komma upp). Det tycker jag i sig glasklart talar för "Swedish Social Democratic Party", som både är det namn organisationen själv använder och det vanligaste på nätet.

(Men visst blir en märklig effekt av policyn att organisationer som inte har mer officiella engelska namn ofta listas på orginalspråk. Jag ställde nyligen en fråga om den bristande konsekvensen vad gäller utländska och engelska namn på Village Pump: Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#The use of English or foreign language names of organisations. Tyvärr har bara några få personer svarat och deras svar är inte helt raka, men de svar som gavs tycker jag ändå ger mig stöd. "If there is an official translation, I'd generally use it. If there isn't one, it's more complicated. At least, we wouldn't want to be the only ones to use a translation", skriver en användare. En annan säger visserligen "Not every organization with a non-English names has one single official English translation for that name. Often the native name is more commonly used in English than an English translation, or there are more than one ad hoc translations in circulation. In such cases, the native name should obviously be the one used", men avslutar med att säga att "when it can shown that a single English name is used in English more often in English than the native name, should the English name take precedence".)

Dina övriga argument tycker jag inte riktigt håller. Hur riksdagens presstjänst översätter och förkortar andra partiers namn är knappast relevant i den specifika diskussionen om hur socialdemokraternas partinamn ska översättas. (Jag noterar dock att man på hemsidan använder "The Social Democratic Party". Inget "Labour" i sikte där heller, således.)

Visst är språkbruk kontextualiserande. Men med den argumentationen blir översättningar i princip blir omöjliga eftersom i stort sett alla politiska ord har olika valör på olika språk. I vissa fall är detta uppenbart, som med den amerikanska användningen av ordet "liberal" eller i faktumet att det portugisiska högerpartiet Partido Social Democrata är att betrakta som ett högerparti. Om de hade valt en officiell engelsk översättning av sitt namn som hade varit mer begriplig i en europeisk eller internationell kontext, hade du då ändå hävdat att deras namn borde översättas ordagrant? Även exmplet med LO visar, som du själv konstaterar, att det inte går att hävda "ordagrann" översättning som regel. Är det då verkligen rimligt att hävda "ordagrann" översättning i andra fall? Jag tycker inte det.

När vi nu talar om möjligheten att vara "ordagrann"... Skillnaden mellan "Svenska" och "Sveriges" är egentligen inte av så stor betydelse, eftersom Wikipedias regler entydigt borde avgöra saken utan att vi behöver gå in på översättningsdiskussioner i den högre skolan. Men det verkar som om du missförstått min poäng, nämligen att gränslinjen mellan dessa två ord i svenskan respektive mellan "Swedish" och "of Sweden" i engelskan helt enkelt inte befinner sig på samma ställe. Att återspegla den distinktion som finns i den svenska anändningen blir då helt enkelt inte möjligt. Självklart ska "Svenska" i Svenska Folkpartiet översättas med "Swedish". Det betyder inte att det inte kan finnas goda skäl att översätta också "Sveriges" i "Sveriges Socialdemokratiska Arbetareparti" med "Swedish" - vilket ju uppenbarligen är vad partiet i fråga själv valt att göra, sannolikt som ett medvetet val. Eftersom ordens användning i olika språk inte exakt motsvarar varandra kommer en del nyanser oundvikligen att gå förlorade vid översättning. Det finns en skillnad mellan "mormor" och "farmor" också, men det betyder inte att vi brukar översätta de orden till "maternal grandmother" och "paternal grandmother" eller något dylikt otympligt, utan låter helt enkelt båda motsvaras av "grandmother".

Slutligen, att sätta nationsnamnet i parantes är en självklar lösning när det officiella eller mest använda engelska namnet inte är entydigt. Det är ett klargörande av vilket "Centre Party" det handlar om. Finns det bara ett parti i världen som har det namnet är ett klargörande onödigt.

Dock: jag har ett kompromissförslag. Jag skulle tycka att det var okej om man efter att ha angett det svenska namnet skrev något i stil med "Literally, the Swedish name translates into Swedish Social Democratic Labour Party but in English the name Swedish Social Democratic Party is generally used, perhaps due to the fact that the party in Sweden is generally referred to simply as "the Social Democrats"." Alarm 16:46, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Jo, det blir bra. --Soman 17:42, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

[edit] People's Labour Party

Blanking an article is never proper procedure. If you wish to see it deleted list in of Wikipedia:Votes for deletion, if the title is misspelled create a redirect to the proper spelling. - SimonP 13:26, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Naming conventions

Thanks for your comments. I am just applying the general convention tu use the English titles. There are some exeptions, one of them could be on CCM. On Nahda: it is just the translation used in the standard work: Political parties of the World by Alan J. Day (John Harper Publishing, 2002). But the translation that book uses is Renaissance Party., so I will return it to that translation. Then on Bund and Alliance, League is indeed better, so I will rename it into League. Thanks a lot. --Gangulf 20:38, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Communist India

Just saw your article on a communist part from the 1970s, and saw the abundant category of other communist parties there. I was curious if you've ever written a general history of communism in India, for Wikipedia. That would be really interesting. -- user:zanimum

[edit] Other wiki's

Hello Soman.

I see you have been making many contributions. Some people have come to Wikipedia but found it inhospitable, with right-wing users reverting changes, and not much of anything to stop it. Some trace the root of this to the person who funds Wikipedia, the millionaire Jimbo Wales. Anyhow, different people come to different conclusions, and you may come up with a different one.

Anyhow, just wanted to let you know there are other wiki's out there where your articles would be appreciated. Namely Anarchopedia (English) and Infoshop's OpenWiki.

Neither site is perfect, Infoshop seems to go down a lot, and Anarchopedia seems to be another kind of flux, but they are free from the ideological bias prevalent at Wikipedia. And they are GFDL as well. I might copy some of your articles there.

Perhaps Indymedia or the Marxists Internet Archive will open a wiki at some point. I'd love for there to be a wiki on politics and history where one didn't have to deal with some of the people here.

Anyhow, you're doing a good job as it is. Keep it up. Cde Laski 09:12, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

P.S. I've been looking a lot at the Great Soviet Encyclopedia. It has three editions, the first two of which I believe are public domain, the third I'm not sure. The third edition is online (in Russian). A Russian/English automatic translator doesn't do a bad job. My library has the GSE in English published by Macmillan. I'd guess that translation is copyright Macmillan. Anyhow, it's something I always keep in the back of my mind. Much of the "History of so-and-so country" here comes from US State Department papers originally, so the GSE might provide some decent balance to that, if the copyright is good. You can even hook into it with an automatic Russian/English translator like Voila and use it as a reference. Some of the prose even I balk at (The CPSU was the vanguard of the world proletariat, led by Lenin blah blah blah) but some of it is quite good.

I'm aware of the criticism against wikipedia. Also, I am at many times irritated by the right-wing hegemony on it. However, I don't find setting up alternative wikis as the solution. If wikipedia is used by 100 000s, then it makes much more sense to make edits here rather than establish parallell sites visited only by the already converted.
Also, I don't agree with the causal explanations to the reason as to why wikipedia gets a right-wing twist. I think that its a pattern repeated in most mainstream internet forum. The users are generally 1) Men, 2) Western, 3) Middle-Class and 4) generally more oriented towards technology rather than social sciences, which is also mirrowed by character of the ideology expressed. --Soman 10:38, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)

[edit] Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:

To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:

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Or if you wanted to place your work into the public domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

[edit] Unverified image

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

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I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}}:

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if you claim fair use, etcetc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page and I'll tag it for you. Thanks so much. Denni☯ 04:23, 2004 Dec 13 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at Wikipedia:Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

  • I've got another unverified image for you to take a look at: Image:Cpimllelectionsymbol.gif. The above applies to this one as well, either tag it or shoot me a message detailing where you got it, and I will be happy to tag it for you. Thanks! --MaxPower 19:53, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)

Also:

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[edit] Various Images

Soman, I've also tagged a bunch of your images as {{GFDL}} which is the license you agree to when you upload pics to the wikipedia. Anyway I just wanted to drop you a line and let you know. --MaxPower 20:07, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)

[edit] Yadavs

I'm sorry, I was under the impression that the Yadavs were a kshatriya jati. My source for that is the article Yadav. I thought it would be more convenient to say kshatriya, since this was a more widely known term; but if I'm wrong, by all means let's change it! (By the way, is it not possible for sort of lower-end kshatriya jatis to be OBCs?) QuartierLatin1968 23:49, 19 Jan 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Seeking you support

I am seeking your support and participation for starting the "Indian Collaboration of the Week". Please enlist your support on the page Wikipedia_talk:Indian_wikipedians'_notice_board if you would like to support. Thanks Arunram 09:36, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for enlisting. I look forward to editing collboratively with you. Regards Arunram 12:46, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I seek your support in bootstrapping WP:INCOTW. The infrastructure is in place. We only need a popular support and participation for the COTW. Please spread the word around. Also nominate / vote for your topic/article. Regards Arunram 15:19, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] SKU

Shouldn't the Sveriges Kommunistiska Ungdomsförbund page be formatted as a disambiguation page, as it is about different organizations? / Tupsharru 20:05, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

I could, but at the moment the article isn't very extensive. Also, out of the three organizations the third can be seen as a somewhat direct continuation of the second. --Soman 20:34, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)

[edit] CP Nepal

Hi...over at Anarchopedia and Infoshop's OpenWiki I'm doing articles on the CP's of Nepal. So any info you have is great.

Most of my info not coming off the web is coming from stuff I find at the local Revolution Books, which is run by the RCP, which is in the RIM with CPN(M). Padaloo 03:01, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Whatever info I have, is posted on the wiki-articles. More on the CPN(ML) is coming shortly. --Soman 11:35, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Image copyright tags

Thanks for uploading Image:Cpmrabindeb.jpg. I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much, Tagishsimon (talk) 18:35, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

[edit] VfD

One of your articles has come up for deletion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Union of Revolutionary Workers of Austria - Marxist-Leninist. I thought you might like to respond to allegations that this party never existed. —Seselwa 01:49, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maharashtra

Image:Maharashtraellora.jpg does not have a tag. I'll be doing up the page this week and I would need it to be tagged so that I can raise it to FA status.  =Nichalp (talk • contribs)= 20:28, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Partido Comunista de los Menadores

Hi, Soman. I left my best attempt at translating the PCM's name at the article's talk page. Hope it helps. Taragui 13:57, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. --Soman 15:37, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Index of political parties

As you might have discovered I am working on the Index of political parties for some time. I am trying to have an article on each of the parties listed in this index. It will be a long list, so I thought it might be good not to include regional and not to include mini-parties. So therefore I deleted parties I included earlier. These mini-parties can be found at the national Lists of political parties or at list of parties by ideology. The Greek and German parties I deleted are extremely small or never participated in national elections (like the German SSW). The MLPD is as far as I know a very small party, there was no article made on that party and it didn't take part in the last federal elections, it had in 1998 at the federal elections 4713 votes and 0.0095% of the votes, so why include it. The same goes for some of the other parties, like the Union of Centrists from Greece etc. Electionworld 12:45, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Festa do Avante!

Hey friend! I appreciated your work of creating the page about the Festival, but I moved it to Festa do Avante!. Although in many posters it appears only Festa Avante!, the real and common name is Festa do Avante!, "do" is like "of the" or something like that. In some years, it appears writen like that in the posters. official website.

Continue your good work!

[edit] Communist Party of Peru

If we look at the picture of active political parties in Peru, we can only see that the Peruvian Communist Party (founded by Jose Carlos Mariategui) and the APRA (by Haya de la Torre) are the only ones from the 20's that still have political power (sort of it, specially in the case of the PCP). About the other ones, Patria Roja and Marxist-Lenninist, the fact that they have a more recent history (since they are relatively new in the political arena) does not make them a "political partiea of Peru". In this case, I believe that is far more important to put only the Peruvian Communist Party because of his history, and because of its founder, an importan political figure of Peru.

And about Sendero, I see no point in putting in the article, since the organization has not being a political party in any tipe of election. Would you considerate the FARC or the ELN as political parties as well? In this case, Sendero has never attempted to refound himself as a political option and, as a matter of fact, is still an insurgent organization in Peru.

Also, I'm moving the "Communist Party of Peru" to the historical part, since there has been a lot of Political parties that at some time claimed to be the "real" CPP. Messhermit 15:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

First the listing in the "Political Parties of X-country" does not imply that all the parties are of major strength. All parties that exist, they be five members and a bullentine, may be mentioned. In some cases a differentiation is made between "major" and "minor" parties (see List of political parties in Nepal). The criteria for being a "major" party is generally that it has, in recent history, held seats in parliament.
As to Sendero, the definition of a political party on Wikipedia is not linked to electoral performance. A political party that chose to stay out of elections is still a political party. In the end it generally comes down to whether the group itself identifies itself as a political party. FARC-EP identifies itself as a guerrilla movement rather than a political party (the "party referent" of FARC was historically the PCC, thus FARC never claimed to be a party). Sendero identifies itself as a political party with a (theoretically speaking of course) separate armed wing (EPL) under its control. However the is no inherent contradiction between listing an organization both as a guerrilla group and a political party. --Soman 15:43, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
The list is a complete mess now. Several of those names have already dissapeared from the political arena. Also, most of them are irrelevant, since only the mayor parties play a important role in peruvian politics of our time. I'm reverting to an early version of the page, since it the one that you have now is confusing and it appears that the model that I'm proposing doesn't fit your standars. Please, feel free to answer in my talk page. Thanks Messhermit 18:13, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Aidyokolkatamural.jpg

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[edit] template:communism

Hey Soman, what would you replace the current 'schools of communism' with? Also, I could use your help talking some sense into the advocates/promoters of anarcho-communism on the talk page. —thames 04:44, 23 May 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Image copyright

Hey, for the stuff you took yourself, can you tag it as {{GFDL}} and mention that teh uploader took the picture. For the picture, it is not Public domain, it is copyright anon author. We can use it fairuse, and it may PD is some jurisdictions where anon authors get less copyright (which is against the Berne Convention on Copyright). Cheers. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 17:40, May 24, 2005 (UTC)

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[edit] Image copyright, the final round

Soman, here is a list of all images you have uploaded that are currently without a copyright tag. Those that you created can be tagged as you see fit. Some images you have already uploaded and indicated that you took them have been tagged by other people, mostly GFDL but also copyrighted free use and public domain. I suggest you dig through your image uploads and confirm that those are the licence they are under. If you any questions regarding what to tag them, contact me.

Also, if you upload any further images without tags, I will DELETE them on sight, and consider having you blocked, for vandalising Wikipedia and wasting our time.

That being said, thank you for the images, and I hope we can work this out with having to resort to the above. Burgundavia (✈ take a flight?) 09:10, May 30, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Baathpartyflag.PNG listed for deletion

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[edit] Image:Cpiflag.PNG listed for deletion

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[edit] Idea for your parties

Hello, fellow Swede.

If you don't link your parties to anything no one will ever find them.

If you create a page for local Swedish parties, you can add a link from the page of the city / region where the Party is located.

I have now done this for you pages of the local parties of Ronneby, Falun and Sölvesborg. --Fred-Chess 02:48, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Maps of Valresultat 2002

Counties of Sweden

I don't know where you have gotten those maps from? Perhaps you have made them yourself?

If you haven't, I have made a GFDL map that you can easily color yourself and upload which would solve the copyright issue and possible deletion. Upload them to commons even. If you upload it to commons, I think it is preferably not to include any English text in the image itself, but then again I'm not sure.

--Fred-Chess 03:32, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Lankan parties

I restored LSSP and BNP. But the article on DJVP was allready named in the native name, So waht do you expect me to do. BTW: What would you use as translation for DJVP? Electionworld 20:44, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] lots of edits, not an admin

Hi - I made a list of users who've been around long enough to have made lots of edits but aren't admins. If you're at all interested in becoming an admin, can you please add an '*' immediately before your name in this list? I've suggested folks nominating someone might want to puruse this list, although there is certainly no guarantee anyone will ever look at it. Thanks. -- Rick Block (talk) 14:18, Jun 25, 2005 (UTC)


[edit] World Federation of Democratic Youth

With due respect: since you do not want the WFDY to be called Socialist - how would you call an Organisation consisting in its vast majority of socialist members and led by such members?--Ulula 16:58, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

The organisation should be described in its historical context. There is no doubt that the organization was linked to the Socialist Bloc during the Cold War. But WFDY is not a socialist or marxist organisation, by the simple reason that it does not advocate nor socialism or marxism, and their is no requirement to be a socialist organization for membership. --Soman

[edit] Possible Copyvio

hi,

I'm writing to you as you appear to be one of the major contributors to Maneka Gandhi from the page history. There seems to be some copyright violation - pl. see Talk:Maneka Gandhi for details. I thought I shd check it out with you before taking it to WP:CP. Also, i'm unable to check the history of each edit due to internet connectivity problems - hence this msg. ---Gurubrahma 06:47, 26 August 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Sri Lanka parties

Two questions:

  • Could you provide the romanization of the Sinhala resp. Tamil names of the parties in Sri Lanka (List of political parties in Sri Lanka)?
  • Do you know if the Desha Vimukthi Janatha Pakshaya and the National Liberation People's Party (Desha Vimukhti Janatha Party) the same parties?

Electionworld 19:13, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

  • Yes, the two DVJP articles should be merged.
  • I would suggest using Lanka Sama Samaja Party, Sri Lanka Mahajana Pakshaya, JVP, DVJP, in the list.
  • I can't give a general account of all the names. If a native Tamil-speaker could go through the list on Tamil wikipedia, it would be better. --Soman 19:46, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Venstres Ungdom

Hi Soman

Just for the record. The name "Venstres Ungdom" is never translated into other languages. I've been a member of that organisation for 8 years, and we never translate the name. It is official policy. --Valentinian 13:06, 25 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Catalonia

Is not Catalonia part of Spain? You could add the Catalan political template to Initiative for Catalonia Greens but the Spanish one must appear. Please don't assume the theses of Catalonian independentism. We are in a Balcanization progress, I hope, the EU won't treat us like it did with Serbia.--Xariegu 09:50, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

Yes Catalonia is a part of Spain (and France). However, its political paranoia to assume that having a separate Catalonia template automatically indicates support for separatism. Catalonia has a political life with its own caracteristics, and it is quite natural that the region has its own template. Moreover, "must appear"? According to whom? Wikipedia is not the UN, afterall. --Soman 09:57, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

According to a neutral point of view, of course. Wikipedia is highly politizised, you know, let us be a little bit neutral. I don't say Catalonia musn't have a political template of its own, I would just like to say that you cannot write an article about a Catalan political party without any reference to Spain and Spanish politics, and since we have a template for Spanish politics let us use it too. --Xariegu 10:27, 29 September 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Answer on portuguese left-wing parties

I'm sorry for not answering earlier, but I'm now too busy with my course and I also don't have an internet connection at Aveiro.

  • UDP ran in PCP's lists, I don't recall now in what elections it happened, surely in some local elections but also in parliamentary elections, at least in some districts, that's why it continues appearing in the result board because there are 22 different lists, 18 for each district, 2 for the archipelagos, and 2 for europe and outside europe emigrants. But you may check that website, everything there is official: [3]
  • About the three groups that founded UDP, I think that their members became party members of the UDP, and developed their action inside UDP, the groups just disbanded inside it and no one heard from them again, that was quite common during the revolutionary period of 74/75/76 in Portugal, with lots of parties and organizations being formed and disbanded.
  • I don't really know lots about the Organization for the Reconstruction of the Communist Party (Marxist-Leninist), but it may have not been formed after a split or something like that, perhaps it was just a group formed by an individual or a group of people with a good ideologic knowledge that gave it that name aiming the anti-revisionism tactic against the PCP, that kind of stuff. The Portuguese Communist Party was attacked by almost every side of the political spectrum, as it still does nowadays, but a lot less, because it is now much less influent.
  • The Communist Party (Reconstructed) was the real deal, but their leaders, aiming a strict theorectical correction, stated that it was not a real "Communist Party" in the true sense of the concept, it had not the overwhelming support of the workers, bla bla, and stuff, you know. So, another organization was created, like an umbrella, in order to unite the workers and the support to what they wanted to be a real Communist Party and when that process was complete, the UDP would become the Communist Party again, now fulfilling the theorectical conditions to be considered a communist party.
  • I don't have nothing about the PC(ml)P, it is a bit confusing, having to deal with so many parties with similar names, but, at least here, I have nothing about it. Perhaps in my father's stuff I might found something.

Sorry again for taking so long to answer, and sorry for not being able to answer with precision to everything. Keep the nice work, when I'm able to come back to wikipedia, I'll pay more attention to the Left-wing stuff and colaborations.

Afonso Silva 23:38, 4 October 2005 (UTC)


[edit] Angående KU-SKU-splittringen i Gävleborg i slutet av 70-talet

Du säger här (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Communist_Party_of_Sweden_%281995%29) att KU Gävleborg följde med APK (rättare sagt SKU) i splittringen 1977. Nej! Det var några som lämnade, majoriteten stannade kvar. Sen gick inte KU-individerna med i SKU i splittringen, utan de lämnade först ett eller ett par år senare, enligt min mor, dåvarande ombudsman. Min far, som då var revisor, stannade också kvar.

Jag vill gärna veta var du fått din information ifrån. Jag tror inte på vad du säger. Jag kan till och med NAMNGE vilka som lämnade respektive stannade kvar i splittringen om du vill. Det du!--83.226.184.147 17:52, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

Min info är ifrån saker jag läst i gammalt KU-material. Bl.a. att de som gick över till APK var en ansenligt del av distriktet och att de bl.a. fick med sig en mängd material i splittringen. Det sistnämnda, taget från en intervju med Zethraeus, var något som fick mig att förstå att det var lokalorganisationer som sådana som gått över. Jag har aldrigt nämnt exakt när splittringen i KU-Gävleborg skedde, bara att det skedde efter själva APK-splittringen. KU-Gävleborgsplittringen var intressant, då Flammananhängarna i stort rensats ut ur KU redan 1975-76. --Soman 18:15, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Elections in Sweden

Hej, jag fick se att en: nu, tack vare dig, har artiklar om alla riksdagsval sedan 1928, jättebra! Fast har du märkt att riksdagsvalet 1958 saknas? Thuresson 10:56, 28 October 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Happy Diwali

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Tamaso ma jyotir gamaya ( Lead me from darkness to light.)
Wish you Happy Diwali
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[edit] Christian Democrats (Sweden)

Hello whoever you are :) Thanks for joining the discussion. I get so tired trying to argue with those people, it's like talking to a brick wall. I quit reverting back to my own version because it seemed childish. I would hope some kind of majority vote could decide what stays and what goes. To me it's a rather undisputable fact that the party has been much criticised and I don't know what he means school children's knowledge of the party has to do with it. (Entheta 14:43, 3 November 2005 (UTC))

[edit] Re: Asian Fetish

You remarked that Taiwanese are Chinese. Remember that there are Taiwanese aboriginal peoples that speak Malayo-Polynesion languages, and are not ethnically Han Chinese. - Dalbury(Talk) 19:18, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, I'm aware of the existance of indigenous populations on Taiwan, and that Chinese ethnic identity is not homogenous. However, the way it was mentioned in the context of the text, I didn't really see any reference to the indigenous minority. --Soman 20:24, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Help with Translation!?

Can you help translate this for me to swedish? Many thanks in advance!

The first railroad line in Albania was built in 1948 linking Tiranë with Durrës on the coast and Elbasan in the interior. The main ports are Durrës, Vlorë, Shëngjin, and Sarandë.

Albania has a somewhat limited telephone network. There is a fairly extensive broadcasting service, however, and television programming began in 1971. Newspaper circulation is quite limited. There is a state university at Tiranë.

--Armour 09:59, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

Albaniens första järnvägslinje byggdes 1948, sammanlänkandes Tirana med Dürres vid kusten samt Elbasan i inlandet. De största hamnarna är Durrës, Vlorë, Shëngjin och Sarandë.

Albaniens telenätverk är något begränsat. Dock så är etermedia väl utbyggt, och TV-sändingar började 1971. Tidningscirkulationen är ganska begränsad. Det finns ett statligt universitet i Tirana. --Soman 11:29, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Shawarma

Interesting addition to shawarma re street food — that article is a bit of a pet of mine, and I'd appreciate it if you would look at it and see what you could add. Cheers, and thanks! --Mgreenbe 17:01, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Images of Austrian Parties

hello Soman,

just a question where did you get the images for [Image:At-spo.gif] and [Image:At-ovp.gif] from? First of all I cannot find a source. Second, these images look pretty dated to me, because we already have logos for the SPÖ and the ÖVP. Don't we need permission first before we use logos? with kind regards... Gryffindor 04:35, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

i picked them at www.politicalresources.net/austria.htm. the problem with the existing logos at wikipedia were that they were extremly large, and didn't fit well in the table. however, i can't really judge if they are outdated or not. The relevant issue is whether the logos were used in 2002. If they were not, they should of course be changed. In general, we don't need explicit permissions to use logos, as logos qualify for fair use. --Soman 09:05, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
I see, because as far as I know for every image and logo there needs to a source given, regardless of the status and license. Concerning the two particular logos, in the 2002 elections the current ones were used. So should we tag them for deletion in that case because it's redundant? Unless you want to use them for other articles... Gryffindor 17:17, 28 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Categorization

Hi Soman,

First, congratulations for the fantastic work you've been doing on Communist movements and parties worldwide. Category:Communist parties is much too large, though. I had an idea to create subcategories by continents (African Communist parties, European, American, Asian, Oceanian) and move the articles to the corresponding categories. What would you think about it ? -- Ze miguel 10:59, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Thank you very much. If the category is to be split up, i'd suggest the folloqing sub-cats:

--Soman 15:20, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

Makes sense. I'll start working on it. Thanks. Ze miguel 16:24, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Kpö.jpg

hello Soman, could you please state from which source you got this (very nice) poster from? I'll add it to the image. also if you could respond to the previous message I left you, that would be greatly appreciated.... with kind regards. Gryffindor 13:11, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

I found it on the web, in some sort of leftwing archive. Can't remember the url now. The copyright, if applicable is with KPÖ, but posters are ok for fair use if they are not in hi-res. --Soman 15:15, 2 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Ramvilas Paswan

Might it be too much to ask for an explanation for reverting parts of my edits to this page? WikiSceptic 06:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

I think that the translations into English of Indian party often becomes redundant or confusing. Dal means, in this context, "Party" and not Army. Secondly the meanings of Lok Dal and Janata Dal are virtually identical. Lok Janshakti Party is better not given a literal traslation, as that doesn't really translate the meaning of the name. --Soman 09:31, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
People have a responsibility to be gadflies, not only towards corruption, but also foolish ideas and concepts, and this is an essential part of the political discourse. Improvement can only come when legitimate criticism is permitted and addressed. Paswan's party's name is ridiculously redundant; likewise with the other parties, the names of which I had provided translations for. This needs to be brought home to them, and I was doing it in a way that was not insulting, though mocking. Secondly, there is a tendency for politicians to secede and erect one man parties at the drop of the hat, which seem to be harking back to the feudalist phenomena of strong individuals setting themselves up as "barons" and "nobles" ("Sardars" in Indian history), and this tendency must be checked; ridicule is the best means to this end, the ridicule of nonsensical variations of party names, that often are nothing but emply slogans masking egoist ambitions. Politics in India needs to be encouraged to coalesce into a smaller number of better-organized parties, and that can be done only by discouraging fissiparous and individualist tendencies.
I believe that the democratic system of the U.S., besides that of Germany, Spain and probably Canada and Australia (with which I am not acquainted) should provide a pattern for democratic reforms for India. Democratic reforms in India — decentralization down to divisional, district, taluka and block levels and making offices such as the Police Commissioner, Mayor, District Magistrate, Collector, Block Officer, etc., elective rather than appointed offices — will reduce jingoism over the long term, and benefit the world, India being a long-term threat to world peace, a la Meiji Japan, Hitler's Germany, etc.
What do you think? WikiSceptic 06:06, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
But you're missing the point, namely that Lok Janshakti Party is not a ridiculous name in Hindi. It just becomes weird when literally translated. As per the analysis of the international situation you're presenting, I do not agree. --Soman 09:28, 5 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] ICP slogan

Hi there

I think "free country" is a better translation of watan hurr than "free nation". "Nation" has all sorts of connotations that "watan" doesn't have, crucially in this case the idea that Iraq was a nation as opposed to being part of the Arab nation or indeed a binational state. The Arabic word for nation, "umma", was as far as I know never used by any progressive movement in the Arab world to refer to the states that exist currently. "Watan" strictly means something like "homeland" or "fatherland", but I think "country" is an adequate translation here. Palmiro | Talk 15:05, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

Looking at the page on Yusuf Salman Yusuf, it seems to me that it was me who introduced the translation I have objected to here in the first place. Apologies for any annoyance. Palmiro | Talk 22:27, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Stalinism

Hello you have delite the Stalinism from Communism Template ! Stalinism like theori opposition to Trockism mus be.

[edit] UGT sticker

Image:Ugt31.jpg: any idea what year? Or any indication of where it came from? -- Jmabel | Talk 01:04, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[4] --Soman 09:58, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Greek Communist Party

I believe your contribution: At the end of the war, fighting broke out between ELAS and the Greek monarchist forces, backed by the British army (later to be aided by the U.S.A. under the Truman doctrine). Following a cease fire agreement known as Varkiza pact, ELAS laid down arms with the hope of democratic solution to the problems faced by the post-WWII-occupational status quo (the Anglo-American occupation and the re-installation of the Monarchy). However, following the killing of 1,192 citizens,the rape of 165 unarmed female sympathisers of the ELAS, the forced head-shaving of female suspected-communists and the persecution of over 100,000 left-wing activists or citizens loyal to the Democratic (as opposed to the Monarchist) agenda, ELAS (by now reformed as the Democratic Army of Greece or D.S.E.) reversed its stance and restarted armed fighting in 1946. The Greek Civil War was to last until 1949, with the defeat of the KKE-led D.S.E.

I highly POV. First of all the war of ELAS was not against monarchist forces, but against the Greek government.

1. Non Communists af all stripes (including republicans, monatchists, and non-Stalinist lesftists) fought against ELAS.

2. Yes, the British sided with the government. But you cannot state that one side was backed by the British and withhold information as to who backed the other side! ELAS was backed militarily by Greece's communist northern neighbors. When Tito broke off with Stalin, Yugoslavia stopped training and supporting ELAS/DS guerillas, which was decisive for the outcome of teh civil war.

3. Your contention that the Anglo Americans occupies Greece may sound be self-evident to a Staninist, but would insult just abiut everyone else's intelligence.

4. Who raped whom and who shaved whose head really debases the discussion. Heinous crimes were committed on both sides. You cannot just highlight the victims of one side and ignore the victims og the other.

5. The war was not against the Democrats and the monarchists as you state. It was against a communist minority against just about everyone else (democrats, monarchists, non-communist left.

Please lets try to respect peoples' intelligence and keep things balanced and NPOV! Rastapopoulos 12:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Image replaced and up for deletion

Hi, I've replaced the JPEG flag of the Limonese Authentic Party, uploaded by you (Image:Autentico limonense.jpg), with Image:Limonese Authentic Party flag.png. The new version lacks JPEG compression artifacts. I've listed the original for deletion—Hope this is OK. –Mysid 07:16, 13 December 2005 (UTC)==WPSU==

[edit] WPSU

Hi, wondered if you'd like to join WPSU, you seem to edit some relevant articles. :) - FrancisTyers 22:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Subramanian Swamy

Hi, you added Template:accuracy to the above article. It is common practice for people who add the tag to discuss what statements are not factually correct on the article's talkpage. --Gurubrahma 13:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Africa Award--hot off the presses

Hi Soman, unlike the two other people I left these for this morning, you don't seem to focus primarily on Africa--however, your thoroughness in running down political party articles has greatly increased our coverage all over the continent. I've long admired your articles and I'm glad we've finally got just the right award to show it. Cheers! --Dvyost 17:23, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. --Soman 17:56, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
Soman is presented this Africa Award for excellent contributions to Africa-related articles, particularly those relating to politics. Presented by Dvyost from the Africa-related regional notice board
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Soman is presented this Africa Award for excellent contributions to Africa-related articles, particularly those relating to politics. Presented by Dvyost from the Africa-related regional notice board

[edit] Samfylkingin (Iceland)

I saw your move request on WP:RM. I copied your text to Talk:Social Democratic Alliance (Iceland) and made a comment on that page. That also reminds me, a while ago I had a stab at the translation you posted to Talk:Icelandic_language#Translation_from_Icelandic. I don't know if you saw it, or whether it is useful to you any more. Anyway, keep up the good work. Stefán Ingi 13:47, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Now I noticed. Essentially what I would like to know is whether Samband ungra kommúnista and Félagi ungra kommúnista were completly separate organizations or whether it was the same movement who just changed name. --Soman 16:25, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
Hmm, the text doesn't say anything explicitly about that question. My guess would be that Félag (society) ungra kommúnista (which might be mainly focused in Reykjavík) and the few other Félög ungra kommúnista from around the country that had been founded got together and formed a union (Samband) over the country, where each society was a member of the union. So these would be different organisations but very much part of the same movement. But now I am beginning to draw inferences that are not in the text so I'll stop. Stefán Ingi 19:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstar

I award this Society Barnstar to Soman for his extraordinary contributions to politics related articles. deeptrivia (talk) 04:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
I award this Society Barnstar to Soman for his extraordinary contributions to politics related articles. deeptrivia (talk) 04:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi Soman! I was amazed to see your fantabulous contributions to articles related to political parties and politicians. Probably you haven't noticed, but recently you also crossed 10000 edits. Keep up the good work! deeptrivia (talk) 04:52, 16 December 2005 (UTC)==Bharatiya Mazdoor Sangh== Hi Soman I need your help in fixing up this article. I tried to edit it however i dont know why a box is comming up. It would be great if you could help me in fixing this code and bring to back to good stadards. Thanks --Aravind Parvatikar 06:38, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Bharatiya Mazdoor Sangh

[edit] Bharatiya Mazdoor Sangh

Need Help this is urgent. --Aravind Parvatikar 06:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] LPMCOTW

You showed support for Leftist Parties and Movements Colloboration of the Week.
This week Popular Front for the Liberation of Oman was selected to be improved to featured article status.

--Revolución (talk) 05:22, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Country Userboxes

Hey, your country userbox templates don't seem to display properly when put to use on user pages. I've switched Template:User Canada to use the userbox template, which works. Is there any reason you're not using the userbox template to make country-of-origin userboxes? Carson.talk 05:58, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Leninism

I have partially restored some of the changes you revered away. Perhaps post something to the Talk page if you;d like to discuss. --DuncanBCS 12:33, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

I agree, self-critically, that I should have motivated the reversion more clearly. --Soman 16:29, 22 December 2005 (UTC)== Image:Flag of Mexico.png ==

Hello. I was wondering if you could use this flag image on your travel template, please. Thank you. Zach (Smack Back) 01:51, 24 December 2005 (UTC)==bangarappa== FYI: Bangarappa was a former cheif minister of karnataka


Could you please add S.Bangarappa to the category Cheif Ministers of karnataka
[[Category:Chief Ministers of Karnataka]]
I have a tech issue and I cant edit any article's heading section.

--Aravind Parvatikar 11:38, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] bangarappa

FYI: Bangarappa was a former cheif minister of karnataka


Could you please add S.Bangarappa to the category Cheif Ministers of karnataka
[[Category:Chief Ministers of Karnataka]]
I have a tech issue and I cant edit any article's heading section.

--Aravind Parvatikar 11:39, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Happy New Year

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[edit] Afonso Silva

Hello Soman, I'm back in wikipedia, if you need help and colaboration in left-wing about articles just send me a message, I will be glad to help if I can.

Another thing, do you think I should request a peer review to the PCP article? Do you think it could be a featured article? It's the most complete article about a Communist Party in english wikipedia, please say something about it.

Thanks for your time, keep your good work!

Afonso Silva 19:47, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

Yes, do so. The PCP article is well at a standard of FAC. You're doing great work. Also, I've nominated Lanka Sama Samaja Party for peer review. --Soman 16:13, 27 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Movement for Socialism

Hi there - you requested Movement toward Socialism be moved to Movement for Socialism - however an article already exists at Movement for Socialism.

What were you intending to do?


Thanks!

WhiteNight T | @ | C 05:31, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

Shift the existing article to Movement for Socialism (Britain). --Soman 09:04, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Template:European communist parties

I've added the Ukrainian party. Do you think The Left, from Luxembourg should figure? And what about the german PDS? They are politically much closer to parties that are present there, like the French, than other communist parties, including the Portuguese. Afonso Silva 12:36, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I've also spotted some missing parties which have articles, such as the Communist Party of Albania (1991), Communist Party of Belarus. Some important are missing, like the Catalonian Communist Party (Parti des e dels communistes de catalonia, PCC) which has no article. Afonso Silva 12:59, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

I would vote for keeping Lenk and PDS out. The template needs to be delimitated in some way. Already now its quite big. The idea was to include the major party with the mainstream international communist movement from each country. 'European Left' would be another possible template. Also, I've not included parties for which I lack a graphic symbol. PCC definately needs an article. --Soman 14:02, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] DYK

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[edit] WFYS

Greetings! I started creating the pages of the World Festival of Youth and Students, the first is done, 1st World Festival of Youth and Students, it has few information, as the page of WFDY is under construction and the old one is gone. Keep an eye on it, if you want, and suggest ideias, I thought of a template, with the logo, the motto, the place, the year, that stuff. I will continue the work. My source is the website of the last Festival, in spanish [5], I don't have a spanish dictionary, so I hope the translated stuff is correct. Afonso Silva 18:27, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

Greatv initiative. I'll keep an eye on it. --Soman 18:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Fair use images on templates

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[edit] Interesting article

Yes indeed, though a couple of points in it strike me as being at odds with what I've read elsewhere - I'd have to check that out to be sure though. If you read French, here is another interesting one: http://www.lorient-lejour.com.lb/page.aspx?page=article&id=303392 Palmiro | Talk 23:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)==DYK==

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[edit] Wikiproject Organized Labour

Hi Soman, I just wanted to say hi. I've noticed your name on a large number of labour related articles, especially Indian trade unions that I've been "re-stubbing", as it were. So I thought I'd mention Wikiproject Organized Labour. It's only been running for a couple weeks, but have a look if you're interested. Cheers. --Bookandcoffee 18:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Greetings

Greetings on India’s 57th Republic Day. --Bhadani 08:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Palma de Mallorca - Illes Balears

Hi. I have been dealing with articles related to spain provinces, and have seen that there are a lot of wrong references to the only province of Illes Balears as Palma de Mallorca province. Since the democracy, the actual name of the province is Illes Balears, alike the Autonomous Community name. I'm so telling you because I've seen you've made several edits relating Spain.

I've redirected the Palma de Mallorca Province to Illes Balears, and I think that this redirection should be deleted, since it leads to confusion. But there are two sub-articles in your user page that still redirect to them (User:Soman/tempspainparties2 and User:Soman/tempspainparties2).

So, I would like to know if you agree with that and would eventually support the deletion. Thanks -- John C PI 12:44, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

National Liberation Front-Bahrain

hi. thanks for your wonderful works on communist parties. can i ask you what is your source about "National Liberation Front-Bahrain". i am really interested. --Arash red 08:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Kommunistinen nuorisoliitto ry.

I moved your article, Kommunistinen nuorisoliitto ry. to Kommunistinen nuorisoliitto. I don't speak Finnish, so I don't know if that is correct, but there are technical problems with articles that end in periods (the talk page doesn't work). The Finnish wikipedia lists the same organization as fi:Kommunistinen nuorisoliitto, so I don't know if the "ry" part is in the name. Like I said, I speak absolutely no Finnish, so let me know if I shouldn't have moved it. --Descendall 10:42, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

my Finnish is also, mildly said, limited. "ry." implies that its a registered association, and is often included in organization names in Finland. The article might be moved to Communist Youth League (Finland). --Soman 21:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Please check your WP:NA entry

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[edit] Image:Nepal-Communist.jpg

Hi, just out of interest, how do you know the image isn't a CPN(M) banner? Also who are SJM? Thanks. --Horses In The Sky 15:21, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Two reasons. The hammer and sickle with a star below was the electoral symbol of SJM. See [6]. The swastika denotes (in South Asian context) an electoral connotation. Secondly the letters (in devanagari) San. Ja. Mo. are written below. SJM was the Samyukta Janamorcha Nepal, the electoral front of Communist Party of Nepal (Unity Centre). --Soman 15:26, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
Ah, thank you, at least I now know who to ask about any matters relating to this etc. --Horses In The Sky 15:31, 20 February 2006 (UTC)



[edit] Template:Communism

I think my change was better than the original. 1: Left communism is a school of communism while Titoism is more a related subject. Not the opposite. 2: World Revolution is just the english section of the ICC. Hence I guess it's better to let it link to ICC and not just WR? 3: And if the marxist-leninists and the lefties got their internationals represented, why not let the trots have theirs too? ;)

[edit] Renaming of the article Central Organisation of the Workers of Sweden

Hi (fellow Swede)!

Upon writing the article on SAC, some questions arose regarding the naming conventions of non-english organisations. It would be nice if you'd help me out, please read the talk page of SAC's article. I figured you should know, as you renamed it from Sveriges Arbetares Centralorganisation in the first place.

Thank you, -- Jobjörn 01:20, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

Ha! From the very beginning, I knew I had seen your name somewhere. Now I know why. You're the one that keeps interfering with Itake's edits on swedish politics - he is a friend of mine. It should be noted, however, that I am entirely on your side in whatever conflict you should ever get into with him. What we see as NPOV, he sees as POV in favor of the left. He is, in other words, nuts. Peace out. -- Jobjörn 01:54, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
I'd suggest that this discussion is taken at Wikipedia Talk:Naming conventions. I can see both pros and cons with translating names of TU centrals. --Soman 10:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image:Red Star.png

Your upload, Image:Red Star.png, has been listed for speedy deletion, because it is redundant to Image:Red star.svg. --ThrashedParanoid★ 03:12, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] All India United Trades Union Congress

Hi! Can you throw some light on this organisation.Please see the article Jogesh Chandra Chattopadhyay where this union is named , alongwith footnote (source of the info).However, I cannot locate this trade union.Is this the same thing as Socialist Unity Centre of India, which is listed in Indian Trade Unions? Any isea?Thanks.--Dwaipayanc 10:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

It is the United Trade Union Congress, the trade union wing of the Revolutionary Socialist Party. --Soman 08:21, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for the info.I have updated this piece of info in Jogesh Chandra Chattopadhyay. I just wonder if you were not there to take care of all these organization, what a disarray this would have been !!Bye.--Dwaipayanc 15:14, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Popular Front for the Liberation of Chad

Thanks for the info; I had first thought it wrong because my two sources said it had been founded in 1979. In the next days I'll try to conciliate the sources; or you can, if you prefer. And excuse me or my rash words wheni called it "full of wrong information". BTW, I've noted you have a great interest for revolutionary and insurgent groups. If you have any time or interest, you may consider helping me in adding info. on the Chadian rebel groups, as I'm trying to do now. Bye. Aldux 22:35, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
My personal knowledge on Chadian politics is quite limited. Unfortunately I don't have the Harmattan book around any more. My spontaneous guess is that we are essentially talking about the same political current, that might have been founded 1968, pacified in 1975 and then re-emerged in 1979. But thats just a guess. --Soman 08:00, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
It is a guess, but probably a correct one, since all sources give the same party leader. Thanks, and bye! Aldux 11:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Democratic National Conference

Hello! The Democratic National Conference article is being voted for deletion here. I thought you could be interested. Afonso Silva 13:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kolkata-left front

Hi! Yes it's true that Trinamool Congress was there in power of Kolkata municipal corporation, I just wanted to point out that Left Front is in power in the state of West Bengal for such a number of year. That the state is under Left Front dor such a long period of time deserves mention in the article of the capital of the state. However, my wordings may have been wrong. Could you please rephrase and put the information in a correct way? Thanks.--Dwaipayanc 17:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

I'm sorry for just reverting your text. yesterday, i didn't have time to rewrite. also, i'm personally not quite sure exactly when LF won CMC in the first place? And they lost it in 2000, right? --Soman 08:35, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Request for assistance

Hello. A user asked on Wikipedia:Swedish Wikipedians' notice board/Other requests for improvement for assistance about Sweden general election, 2006 [7]. Since you've been writing about Swedish elections before, I thought I would direct it to you, if you have the time. Thanks for any input. / Fred-Chess 22:03, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Wikipedia:Wikiethics

Hi,

We started a proposal Wikipedia:Wikiethics to state the existing policies coherently and make suggestions on improving the editorial standards in Wiki. I thought you might be interested in contributing to that proposal.

Unfortunately, a pro-porn and pro-offense lobby is trying to make this proposal a failure. They unilaterally started an approval poll although almost no one including me believe that it is time for a vote, simply because the policy is not ready. It is not even written completely.

Editors who thinks that the policy needs to be improved rather than killed by an unfair poll at the beginning of the proposal, started another poll ('Do we really need a poll at this stage?') at the same time. The poll is vandalized for a while but it is stable now. A NO vote on this ('Do we really need a poll now?') poll will strengthen the position of the editors who are willing to improve the ethics policy further.

If you have concerns about the ethics and editorial standards in Wiki, please visit the page Wikipedia:Wikiethics with your suggestions on the policy. We have two subpages: Arguments and Sections. You might want to consider reviewing these pages as well...

Thanks in advance. Resid Gulerdem 22:14, 22 March 2006 (UTC)


[edit] NEPAL!

Hullo there.

Im user Togrim of the norwegian wiki. As int sec of the AKP(m-l) during the 70s i know a good deal about some of the partys youve written about.

Am writing in nuwiggin about nepal now. Gotta few qs for you. Mebbe you got some for me too?

All norwegian links to your nepal articles are to my norwegian articles ...

My email: tron@steinen.net. you write?

allthebest togrim 2006-03-30

[edit] Political Posters -- India

First off, thanks for providing these images. Very valuable to Wikipedia.

I was wondering if you had a larger file for the following image -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Cpimlposter.jpg .

File is already quite large, but was wondering if a larger one was available (trying to vectorize it--so every extra pixel is very welcomed). My email address is pfehler@gmail.com

If you could provide this for me, I would be more than happy to send you an EPS of my finished product. If a larger version is not available, thank you nonetheless for your contribution.

Much appreciated. Cadastral 05:51, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I think thats the largest version I'm having. --Soman 08:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Ecuador Question

Hi, do you know anything about a grouping called JCE in Ecuador, I think they might be the youth movement of the MPD or something. Thanks. --Horses In The Sky 11:41, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Juventud Comunista del Ecuador, youth wing of PCE (not mpd). youth of pcmle (and thus also of mpd) is Juventud Revolucionaria del Ecuador. --Soman 12:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Excellent--Horses In The Sky 12:10, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] On Estonian language

No difference in meaning (technically), 'partei' is a loan word from German. But the word 'partei' became discredited as there used to be only one 'partei' the CPSU, which the people naturally hated. This is the principal reason, why 'erakond' -coined by our own linguists- is much more commonly used. --Constanz - Talk 16:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

Which word predates which? Was 'erakond' conceived post-Independence? --Soman 16:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

? Erakond dates back to at least late 19th century. Our nationalist-conservative-liberal-centrist parties (1900-1940) preferred 'erakond', for it was an Estonian word. 'Partei' referred to German influence (that's where our socialism originated from), it was used by Socialist-soc.dem-communist parties. Communists used 'partei' so as to emphasise internationalism (and imitate their moscow idol's grouping) --Constanz - Talk 16:39, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Flags of the World (crwflags.com)

This source has (c), but they do permit using their images under certain conditions [8]. Have you uploaded/used in wikipedia any of FOTW images?--Constanz - Talk 14:15, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

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[edit] Solano

Soman, I am not a trotskyist or any kind of communist, so I do not do these things because I would side with a faction. I was wrong in saying you introduced POV (I now notice just how much was in there to bgin with), but I'm working on removing any kind of POV. You have erased some facts with your edits, and did not provide justification for it. Dahn 08:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok, I should have put a notice on the talk page. I felt that the wordings that the Barcelona clashes was a unilateral action on behalf PSUC were POV, and that my text was more neutral. Do note that my text did not exclude the fact that POUMist were jailed by the government, etc. --Soman 08:24, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Nepal Communist League

Was it ever a part of the Communist Party of Nepal or did it form before it? Also I started an article on Pushpa Lal Shestra but my knowledge isn't enormous so you might want to add to it. Thanks. --Horses In The Sky 17:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

It was formed before. In 1947. It had a separate existance, until it merged into CPN(UML). --Soman 09:13, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Kontaktuppgifter

Skulle man kunna få en mailadress till dig, kamrat?

[edit] More about Herasto Reyes

Hi my name is Juan Camilo Reyes Moreno and i needed say thanks for write a note about my father (Herasto Reyes). I will like write more about Herasto, but my englis is limited. I dont Know, if you can helpme. Thanks for all and a fraternal hug.

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