Talk:Solubility equilibrium
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[edit] If you edit the table
Note to anybody editing the table: If you add a line to the table, or change a line, please be sure to cite your data source. Various sources disagree when it comes to solubility product data. Hence without citing a source, any data placed in the table is meaningless. The table has a data source column for that reason. Karlhahn 22:47, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Wikify
Not bad. I'm going to do some editing myself though, to Wikify a little and also perhaps get things that don't always dissociate completely and so readily as sucrose (maybe an organic acid). Its certainly better than before. EagleFalconn 20:45, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I like it, but it does seem to leave out solid state chemistry. I don't see an obvious way to fix that now, but perhaps I'll come back to it. Articles such as precipitation strengthening could use a link here; I'll work on that for now.--Joel 03:58, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
== merger ==
I put the merger notice; is there really a good reason to have a separate solubility equilibrium article than solubility. There seems to be a lot of overlap in both. Olin
- Seems a reasonable suggestion, although I think eventually we will need a separate article on solubility product constant. Until that gets written, all of this could be a section of solubility. Walkerma 19:19, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
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- I was just thinking about writing a solubility-product constant article when I found this. I think I might, don't know if I'll get around to it tonight, but hopefully soon. seanm028
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- I suggest keeping it separate, simply because it also has some overlap with equilibrium. Keeping them separate is useful for people interested in equilibrium, and not solubility in general. Pwnz0red
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- try to think BIG, keep the articles separate, the content will evolve (for example solubility constant table ). Also scope solubility is larger should include solubility of gases in liquids and solids in polymers etc. V8rik 00:17, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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I realize the merger was rejected (although more by non-votes than actual votes), but I will express my opinion more completely, and let the crowd decide. I still don't understand the allure of having two articles. Solubility equilibrium is always associated with solubility, and is a proper subtopic. There are a lot of chemistry articles that are quite fragmented, and it would be nice to have some larger, coherent articles.
Furthermore, why should solubility have a solubility equilibrium article? Should we have an electron transfer equilibrium article and a redox reaction article? If you were looking in an encyclopedia, would you really look up solubility equilibrium? (The solubility of gases in liquids and other above solubilities are equilibrium processes.) I will admit, there is no Wikipedia policy to go by here (just my opinion!), and hence I will let it lie, but I just wanted to express my opinion more completely. Olin 20:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge with chemical equilibrium instead
I think that solubility equilibrium should merge with equilibrium constant, and that page should have a solubility product constant inside the solubility equilibrium section. In fact, I was going to link to it in my post on the discussion of the redox page. Kr5t 02:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- not merge: in the interest of quality of information flow and ease of navigation this type of merged should not take place, after all these are not identical topics but related topics. The article chemical equilibrium should be a qualitative article about equilibria. From this article you get to equilibrium constant and to solubility constant and acidity constant and it also makes sense to keep general introductionary text separated from text treating the mathematics and piling many topics on top of each other does not help anybody V8rik 19:02, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
- 'do not merge see below Anlace 15:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Merge unless...
I believe the pages should be merged. Solubility equilibrium is directly linked to chemical equilibrium and should be placed on the same page in its own sub-section. If, however, someone is to create a comprehensive solubility equilibrium constant table, the page should remain as it is. marcpatt14, May 2006
strongly oppose merger. these are both big topics and very different topics. if anything we need more articles such as total dissoved solids, a major topic in water quality analysis within environmental science Anlace 15:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Table
The following is a rough draft of a sol-prod table (from Lange's and CRC) that I will be adding to the article once I've finished proofreading it Karlhahn 01:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC).
Table has now been moved to main page Karlhahn 01:15, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
