Talk:Soap
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I moved the following from the Purification and finishing section of the article:
While I get the reference (making soap out of liposuction medical waste, as in the film), I don't really see the relevance to the current encyclopedia article on soap. Maybe it could be rephrased, moved to a section like "Soap in popular culture", or moved to saponification? Saucepan 18:42, 25 May 2004 (UTC)
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[edit] Dubious 'fact'
The article says that a disadvantage of soap and why it is not used to day is that it dries out the skin. This is true of commercial soap which has been stipped of its natural glycerine, but hand-made soap contains glycerine which softens and moisturises the skin. [[User:Whiskers|whiskers (talk)]] 18:35, 15 Sep 2004 (UTC)
The article could use a lot of work, and the "dubious fact" may be a bit dubious, but not for the reason given above. It is not clear that glycerine in soap has the stated benefits or lacks that disadvantage. -- robgood@bestweb.net , 12/18/04
[edit] Castile soap
What is Castile soap, exactly? Is it the same as what the French call savon de Marseille? David.Monniaux 17:08, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
[edit] The "Mount Sapo" hoax
Pliny the Elder, in Historia Naturalis 28:51, writes:
- Prodest et sapo, Galliarum hoc inventum rutilandis capillis. Fit ex sebo et cinere, optimus fagino et caprino, duobus modis, spissus ac liquidus, uterque apud Germanos maiore in usu viris quam feminis.
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- You also have soap (sapo), an invention of the Gauls for making their hair shiny. It is made from tallow and ashes, the best from beechwood ash and goat fat, and exists in two forms, solid and liquid; both are used more by men than women among the Germans.
This is the first mention of soap in Latin literature. The tale about "Mount Sapo" is implausible for a number of reasons; there was no such place, the ancient Roman legend which this claims to relate to appears in no ancient Roman author that I can determine, and the Romans did not sacrifice the edible parts of animals such as the fat. I believe that "Mount Sapo" is a hoax, and it may be a hoax that started here. Smerdis of Tlön 14:07, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- I'm the one that added the reference to the Mount Sapo legend- [[1]]. I also cited my source. Stop overreacting. --Brunnock 17:17, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
- The text at Mount Sapo originally suggested, at least to me, that the story was original to Wikipedia. It isn't, and I've rewritten that one to make it clear. Smerdis of Tlön 20:13, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
[edit] soap
[edit] soap maker
Does anybody know what soap makers in the medieval times wore?
Someone needs to deal with the propaganda against "commercial soap" listed in "disadvantages". I don't have the time now.
--- "Washing agents do not contain soap for cleaning fabric, but to reduce foaming." <-- This needs to be cleaned up for grammar and clarity.
[edit] Etymology
I dont know if you are interested, but "soap" derives from Ancient Greek σάπων, sapon, a Gallic invention (hair-dye) adopted by the Germans acc. to Plin.HN28.191, if you wish to include the etymology section. Kassios
[edit] Usage
Do you have to use soap? Won't water work as well, but just take a little longer? And what if you shower everyday? Then it seems that if you aren't too dirty, you can do without soap and its harsh effects. 165.230.46.151 16:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Body Wash
What about Body Wash and moisterizors? How are those compared to just soap and liquid detergents? 165.230.46.151 16:35, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] what does more suds (soap bubbles) has to do with better cleaning action?
can someone please help me on this assignment?
Produce an experiment that can prove or disprove whether 'more suds (soap bubbles) = better cleaning action' —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.255.133.13 (talk • contribs).
[edit] Sodium Laureth Sulfate
Should some clarification be made about sodium laureth sulfate being a disadvantage of soap? Many people will interpret the cons of soap as a comparison to (non-soap) detergents. Sodium laureth sulfate is in fact a non-soap detergent. The article should bring out this distinction more, that non-soap detergents are chemically irritating to the skin, whereas soap may dry out the skin, but is usually not irritating itself in pure form.
