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[edit] Unsectioned comments
The radical rockmusic read over it and looked for grammar errors.
The allmighty Ashuku from the smosh.com forums overhauled this wiki page.
The naive NGard started the article.
These kids annoy me.
How does this sound like a advertisment? The only thing that "possiblly" (sp?) sound like an ad is the mention of smosh shirts.
- You are completely correct. Thanks for speaking up, I have replaced it with the cleanup tag. --mboverload@ 06:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
Does anyone know what facts need to be cleaned up? Can Mboverload be more specific to what guidelines it fails to meet?
Who's IP is 71.155.146.61? I was just wondering because they've fixed a lot of stuff.-NGard
[edit] Overhaul
I think we need to cut and rearrange a few things on this wiki article to give it a NPOV. It looks like a friend of the Smosh boys created this article as an advertisement. I'll start editing in a day or two. It does not need to be restarted, most of the facts seem to be correct, but the wording should be changed.Zeketheo 13:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
As an advertisement? What exactly is being advertised? Did you even read what the moderator said before?
I agree on the cleanup, but nothing about this page advertises anything. Alteast not more than any other page on wikipedia. -Ashuku
Who deleted my links to sites that showed the newspaper articles that included Smosh? Those were some cited resources there.
Anthony was in my math class at Del Campo High School 2 years ago.... and I had no idea that he was so popular on the internet.
[edit] Hebrew
I made a smosh page in the Hebrew wikipedia, you can see it from the left side of the article here, in other languages: עברית. --80.230.4.130 10:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Sources needed
The article contains quite a lot of utterly unsourced statements. Among the worst (in this respect) sections, I would name "Website history", "Removed/Altered videos", "Equipment", and "Trivia". "Video history" could also be a little more precise when, for example, "critical acclaim" or "good reviews" are mentioned. While I do not doubt the truth of these statements, we should still give reliable sources for them. If none are forthcoming, I might remove all unsourced statements in a few weeks. --Huon 17:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
Thats pretty much my fault. I've been an active part of the smosh community for over 3 years. When I saw this article I just sorta started writing pretty much everything I knew about smosh.--Ashuku 07:15, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Lets just cite what we can from the New York Times article, the magazine article, that interview with Anthony on the Smosh myspace blog, and the rest we can say was confirmed by the webmaster of Smosh or Anthony --Ngard039 14:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, but no. We can't say something "was confirmed by Anthony". Even if Anthony edited the article in person (and I believe people are discouraged from significantly adding to articles about themselves), he would still need to give reliable sources in order to satisfy WP:RS and WP:NOR. Actually, I believe everything that can't be sourced is not notable enough to be included in the first place. For example, "Equipment" - is it really notable that Anthony uses a Dell? Does it have any impact on the quality of Smosh's work? --Huon 15:41, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
Actually it is, one of the questions frequently asked on the website is "what equipment do you guys use for the videos?" The inclusion of that into the article helps to answer this and cut down on people's questions.--Ngard039 21:23, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
- I don't object - if it is verifiable. If it is not, then it does not belong on Wikipedia. After all, Wikipedia is not Smosh's FAQ. --Huon 12:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I have verifiable sources, but do I really have to put a newpaper quote verifying that Anthony and Ian are really 18 and attend Amercain River College?
- If there is a newspaper article mentioning those facts, sure, go ahead and put it under "References". I wouldn't even know where to look for such an article. --Huon 15:57, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
I actually had links to the articles in exterior links, but someone deleted them.--Ngard039 01:00, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
Ok, Huon. Is that better?--Ngard039 20:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that's quite a lot better. I would love to add the Sacramento Bee article [1], too, but unfortunately it can only be read by registered users. --Huon 09:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Smosh's Clothing Page
This link needs to be removed as wikipedia is not an advertisement venue, nor should there be links to provide profit to an external entity. ←ΣcoPhreek→ 04:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC) For more info on this see this #1. ←ΣcoPhreek→ 05:09, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Vandalism
Can we have this article locked from vandals? There's been way too much vandalism on this page.--Ngard039 20:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
If you used Wikipedia for anything other than creating and editing the entry about yourself you might better understand wikipedia's Wikipedia:Semi-protection policy.
"Semi-protection should be considered if it is the only option left available to solve the problem of vandalism of the page, if the amount of vandalism is difficult for editors to keep up with. Like full protection, it is usually a last resort, not a pre-emptive measure."
Jaderaid 08:15, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Age?
How old are the boys? What's their date of births, are they still 18 or is that info old? JayKeaton 14:52, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
- According to the Medium article, both were eighteen in March 2006. Their birthdates seem to be difficult to trace. Maybe we should just give their ages at some important event (e.g. creation of the Pokémon theme song)? --Huon 15:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Oh cool, I got the dobs, just emailed them. I will also create stubs for both of them. The rationale behind it is that they are pretty well known, one of their videos is the second most popular of all time on YouTube and there is a strong possibility that their website and community may expand a lot in the future, like other sites that have turned into industries, like PennyArcade and newgrounds. JayKeaton 19:12, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Clean up
This page could also use quite a bit of clean up, I'll add it to my things to do but any suggestions, or better yet some cleaning up itself, please report here JayKeaton 19:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
It's much too breezy, in a fannish tone, and the article should not repeatedly call them by their first names. User:Zoe|(talk) 02:03, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Why can't they call them by their first names? A lot of people don't know their last names and besides, look at the "Brookers" article: Brooke_Brodack. That seems way more fannish than the Smosh one. --Ngard039 15:20, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
- Encyclopedias don't use first names except to distinguish people with the same last name. User:Zoe|(talk) 21:10, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
There's other articles that call the subject by their first name Kimbo_Slice, do they all need the cleanup stamp? --Ngard039 14:39, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Almost everywhere it said "Ian and Anthony" I changed to "Padilla and Hecox" it sounds kinda weird in some of the places so feel free to change them to "the boys" "smosh" whatever.
- I fixed the brookers article too. :) Jaderaid 08:18, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Smosh Criticisims?
Should I include a section about the criticisms of the website? I think it'll help with the NPOV.
[edit] "Cruft"
I fail to see how including their dates of birth is "cruft." illspirit|talk 23:23, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
- Agree, calling something cruft ("low-quality things in general") that's point of veiw, an opinion, dob's can be found all over wikipedia, please don't start a Revert war --Sirex98 00:46, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
[edit] YouTube
This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it. Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed. I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy. In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed, feel free to ask me on my talk page and I'll review it personally. Thanks. ---J.S (t|c) 17:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
