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[edit] Greetings

Hi,

I noticed you were new and had been editing football articles, so I thought I'd give you a few links that it took me a while to find. Hope they're useful.

Image:Yemen flag large.png CTOAGN (talk) 21:53, 15 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Glory Hunter

Good work on the Glory hunter article. Mark272 17:12, 29 November 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps your section could be moved into a new article about the rising commercialisation in football, with a link to this article and vice versa. Mark272

[edit] Regarding FYROM vs Macedonia

Talk:Republic_of_Macedonia#Change_of_FYROM_to_.22The_former_Yugoslav_Republic_of_Macedonia.22

Sure, you can use UN provisional reference "the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" (no FYROM), but even it is agreed by our government, it is offensive. I might believe that using 2 letter and 3 letter ISO codes in the tables (MK and MKD) might help a lot. Here's this list for the other countries too: ISO 3166 Codes (Countries) And Wikipedia agrees that the name of my country is solely Republic of Macedonia and mentions that UN is using some other reference...

Regards, Kirev 00:27, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

R.Macedonia is quite OK. Thanks, Kirev 01:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Superslum

Automobiles led me to realize that I live in a "super-slum," Slumgum. I recently espied the name Slumgum, which resembles my name. I'm currently working on generating articles about the contributors to the New International Encyclopedia. Superslum 00:15, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Gordon Smith

Are you going to write an article on the Gordon Smith who played for Rangers and Brighton? PatGallacher 21:56, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] FA Cup Finals

An Award
I award User:Slumgum this barnstar in recognition of his tireless contributions to the FA Cup Finals article. Robdurbar 08:49, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football Aid

I've noticed you did an edit on Kaká back a while ago. I nominated the article at Football Aid/Article Improvement. Maybe you can help out by voting and do more edits. There are also more articles you can do and you can nominate articles yourself.Kingjeff 00:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Shearer

Thanks for pointing out my goal count revert cockup. I should learn to read small print :) IainP (talk) 12:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Anton Ferdinand

Thanks for that correction. I did correct that in my draft, but then my PC crashed before I saved. I'd forgotten about that. Well done for noticing ;-) - Nzd (talk) 01:57, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] ref. desk

I have responded to your ref desk post. Shaggorama 05:33, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] → 2008 European Football Championship (qualifying)

Hi, you left out Moldova vs. Greece in Group C fixtures for September 2 for Euro 2008 but I added it. Don't know if it is in the proper sequence (i.e. 1st, 2nd, or 3rd game of the day), but at least it's included. User:169.133.253.10

[edit] Category:England footballers

Hi Slumgum - I'm thinking of requesting a renaming of Category:England footballers to Category:England international footballers, for the reasons laid out in Category talk:England footballers (too similar, naming scheme becomes problematic when extended to other countries). Do you have any objections? Qwghlm 11:05, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, category renamings have to be discussed & voted on as per deletions etc. but the grunt work in actually doing the recategorising is done by bots, so it's just a matter of getting a consensus in favour. I've done the hard bit and listed the proposed move for both categories at Categories for deletion (confusingly, it's where moves as well as deletes are discussed), so do make your opinion known there too. Thanks. Qwghlm 23:03, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] re: tables

Hi! Thanks for advice - that's my first day as wiki editor. Do you know a fast way to convert from HTML to wiki code? 'cause otherwise it would take ages to change. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sergiyprotsiv (talk • contribs).

[edit] Footballer of the year

Yes, I know about the awards but I feel that overall Keane was a bigger influence in the 90s than the 00's and Zola the other way round, it seems to be convention not to have players in two decades (unlike managers). Bob Palin 02:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gilberto Silva

Thanks for your changes on the Gilberto Silva article.

Where did you find his correct club appearance/goal stats, and what competitions count towards said totals?

Cheers. GilbertoSilvaFan 15:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thanks!

Thanks for the quick answer at the Reference desk! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jp3z (talk • contribs).

[edit] A-Team.

Oh, okay. Actually, funny thing is, I didn't realise until after editing, and referencing the talk page, that both the edit, and the talk page comment to which I referred were both made by you. In essence, I unwittingly told YOU to "see talk page", to see the comment YOU had just left. I felt a right fool, but I now understand what happened. Cheers! (Do they still say "Cheers" over there? Wavy G 23:02, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Alrighty then. Y'all come back now, ya hear? "Ye-haw." Wavy G 05:37, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

Forgive me again. That just screamed "vandalism" to me. Wavy G 11:18, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Dave Bennett

I noticed you'd moved the page from David Bennett (footballer) to Dave Bennett, but moving articles by cutting and pasting causes problems with the edit histories, so I fixed it by deleting Dave Bennett and recreating it using the page move function. I'm pretty sure I didn't lose any content by doing so, but you might want to check it. If you want to move a page in future and aren't able to use the move function please get an admin to do it or list it at Wikipedia:Requested moves as it can be a pain in the arse to fix the edit histories once someone has edited the moved article. Thanks, CTOAGN (talk) 23:07, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] What an ass

71.57.111.238

You really think "I AM RIGHT!!!!!!" is an appropriate thing to leave in a change comment?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.57.111.238 (talk • contribs).

On its own, no. When I am right and another person has wrongly reverted my edit, "rv to last version by me. I AM RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!" is an entirely appropriate thing to leave in a change comment. Think. Slumgum | yap | stalk | 20:29, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Club Emblems

Hey,

I noticed that using club emblems on non-club pages was totally fine, see here, among hundreds of other pages...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yugoslav_League_Championship http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupe_d%27URSS_de_football

If this somehow contradicts the fair law use, I can change the copyright info from Logo to the following...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Dynamo_Kyiv.png

Gimme a heads up really quick, because these are really useful graphics..

--Palffy 21:17, May 15, 2006 (UTC)

I'm looking around the web for the legality of this issue and I will post it somewhere if I can find something. I deleted the cumulative table on purpose actually, because it had no date when it was last update (and I imagine would be a pain to maintain considering theyre only 2-3 regular Ukraine footy updaters..) But yea, apparently its permitted in Ukraine, so if it comes down to it, I can change the copyright info on the logos. I'll keep you updated on this and thanks for bringing this to my attention. --Palffy 21:39, May 15, 2006 (UTC)
After further research, you were correct to make this assumption. Although this will not specifically to the case because of Ukraine copyrights, it will hold true for other football logos, until Wikipedia changes its policy. Read my response here. Thanks, --Palffy 22:50, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Pascal Zuberbühler

Thanks for letting me know. Mark272 00:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Costa Rica Squad

Not one source unfortunately but a combination of FIFA, RSSSF.com and a Costa Rican posting on the world cup squad. I hope/think it's accurate. The real tough one will be Saudi Arabia I'd imagine. Thanks Andrew.batchelder 00:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC+1)

[edit] Template:Arsenal F.C. Squad

Hey Slumgum - having taken a look at the template (and the many others that have popped up mimicking it) I have to say I don't like the "|" vertical bar characters - they're fine for when you have a few links that need separating but when there are 40+ players the bars clutter the space up a good deal, and the broken vertical line effect they give if you run your eye down the middle of the box isn't very pleasing to the eye, IMHO.

I much prefer the neater regularity in the alternative column-based design you made [1] - it doesn't need the vertical bars, and is much clearer as a result. Would you mind if I changed the design of that (and the England squad template) to the column-based one? Qwghlm 11:49, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

Fair enough, it's the not the most important thing in the world so I won't kick up a fuss. And no, I'm not User:Behindcurtain3, it's just sheer coincidence. My sockpuppets are far more subtle ;-). Qwghlm 22:53, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Country Squad 2006 World Cup

Hi there! A user creted the {{Argentina Squad 2006 World Cup}} form your original and I thought about making it wider so it would take less space, since there's empty space on both sides of the template. I cheked and something between 50 and 60 would be just great. I thought about changing the Argentine template only, but it would be niced if they all had the same width. Any special reason to have made them so thin? Good wiking, Mariano(t/c) 12:33, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Template:Ecuador Squad 2006 World Cup

No problem! Feel free to change the colours as you like! Neurillon 23:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] break

AmiDaniel showed me this trick when I was trying to deal with spacing issues in several articles [2]. It seems to work fine (I've made a test), so we could add it (or simply the code "<br clear="all" />") within the Squad templates. Neurillon 01:03, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup squad templates

Hi, I've created Category talk:2006 FIFA World Cup Squad Templates to keep track of which squad templates need to be finished. jaco♫plane 04:53, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Football player infobox

I have read your post, here and may be willing to help implement the process, although I may not ne able to partcipate fully until after June 9th, after my exams finish. - Nick C (Review Me!) 17:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] UEFA U-21 Championship 2006

this news is about attendances. [3]

Hope it is useful. Matt86hk talk 12:33, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit feature on football articles

Yeah, perhaps you're right. I noticed that our Japanese compatriots had emulated our templates and had an edit feature, so I used that on our templates. Thinking about it I guess the Japanese wiki probably has less vandals, and when the world cup starts there will probably be a very large number of anonymous contributors editing these articles, so we should probably remove the easy way to vandalise. I'll remove it from the templates tomorrow, or you can remove it if you have time. Cheers, jaco♫plane 21:59, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you

Hi Slumgum,

Your note made me smile and, I confess, puzzle over the etymology of the word. I must confess to finding words a lot of fun in that our language is ever evolving which both helps and hinders communication. Hopefully the former rather than the latter. You are right, however, my normal instinctive spelling would have been for the double "l" rather than the treble "l" but I have no problem with N. American spellings; indeed, they make the language richer. In short ("Too late!" the invisible crowd silently roared), I shall not trust this Firefox extension again. :-) Regards -- Alias Flood 00:14, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Everton badge

no worries, why is it only allowed on that page? Is there no way to get approval for it on the template?
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by SenorKristobbal (talk • contribs).

[edit] help with templates

your squad templates are brilliant and i coped your Arsanal one and then changed it to New York Red bulls but i need help with with it thsi is what i have so far

[[4]] TrackMonkey 17:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

that is perfect but what is the main page for when the squad changes?TrackMonkey 21:40, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Squad templates

Hi Slumgum and congratulations on the squad template idea, it seems to be really popular. I'm sure you've noticed the disagreement I'm having with SenorKristobbal regarding the EFC template as you've been trying to add fixes based on the outcomes of reverts. I'm hoping that I can convince you that the current implementation is non-standard and an effort should be made to bring the squad templates into a more cohesive group.

I have to say, the whole squad template thing feels strange... It's a nominally standard layout that's being implemented as a template n times for n squads. How well does Wikipedia handle nested templates at the moment? I think it would be a great candidate for an over-arching template that could then have the squad details injected in an intermediate template which could be included on a page.

Anyway, work has been going on with the fb start/end infobox consolidation system. It's being used on somewhere between 1000 and 1500 pages on the English Wikipedia. The benefit this brings is one of consistency to all infoboxes that are used at the bottom of football related articles. I converted the EFC template to follow this approach and then modified all of the pages that included it. I think it works quite well. Do you have any strong objection to the infoboxes being brought to heel under the fb start/end system? ⁂veila# 11:35, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Savo Milosevic

Hi, thanks for the corrections/better links you made to this article.

I'm new to Wiki (only been on it 2 weeks) and one thing I can't work out how to is to insert that vertical line in the link that disambiguates said link. What set of keystrokes do I need to press to get that? Regards Martyn Smith 10:25, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

The | symbol is called a Vertical bar or pipe. There should be one on your keyboard somewhere. Mine is to the left of z, requiring the shift button. Otherwise there should be one in the 'insert character box' that appears when you edit a page. It's between the ~ and ° symbols. Hope that's help.
 SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  14:05, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
Testing.....| ah yes, that's the bunny! Cheers Slumgum! Martyn Smith 18:04, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] North and South

I noticed that you added a comment about the division of the league cup into north and south sections some of the clubs in the northern section are actually located further south than some of the southern section clubs. Do you know if that's true for the forthcoming competition? I seem to remember last time Hereford were in the LDV cup they were in the northern section, despite being some 60 miles south of Shrewsbury, who were in the southern section.
 SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  00:31, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it is true for this season's League Cup. Notts County are in the southern section, despite being located further north than both Derby County and Nottingham Forest (just), who are both in the northern section[5]. - Green Tentacle 17:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. What a fantastic link!  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  17:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Mastermind

Hi Slumgum. Woody Allen was my specialist subject to answer your question. You were born not a million miles from me I see (Sutton Coldfield). You're very advanced for someone who was born on 15 Nov 2005. At your age I was still playing with my abacus :-) Regards Martyn Smith 08:26, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

[edit] Ukraine U-21 Question

Hi again!!

I thought that those records had to be in competitive matches by definition (not that I really care about this..)? --Palffy 05:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

No worries.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  05:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] League matches only

Mate, you mind warning User: Alfmaster on his Talk page as well? I see you've edited many of his edits and I've decided to 'dispute' all of them because he's obviously no following Wikipedia's standards... --Palffy 20:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

I can't say whether or not he's still including non-league-matches, so I am going to assume that he's not, until proven otherwise.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  20:54, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Thank you!

Thank you for my answer on the Help Desk for the song title! You were of great help! --Domthedude001 19:22, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Jamie Carragher

Please stop adding cup appearances to Jamie Carragher's infobox. The football player infobox is for league appearances only. Carragher has made 290 league appearances.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  13:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about me adding them apperances to Carragher's statbox.....am new to all this :D
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by KopiteCarl (talk • contribs).

No worries.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  17:34, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] AC Milan Box

"Current Squad" links to the current Serie A season, which is a good idea. -- Boothman /tɔːk/ 14:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC).

[edit] Football Squads

Just wondering why you removed the flags and club crests from all the Squad Infoboxes. I think they look much better with the flag and the crest in them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Niall123 (talk • contribs).

Just what I was thinking. -- Boothman /tɔːk/ 12:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC).
I agree that they can look better but they are now all in the original club template format to avoid controversy, and make them all look standardised. Club crests aren't allowed, for copyright/fair use reasons, although I would very much like to use them. Reasons are stated further in the templates' category talk page.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  14:19, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] User page

Your football-themed user page is fantastic, have a barnstar. If in future you change it to a more conventional userpage, please put the current version in WP:BJAODN for posterity. Oldelpaso 16:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

The Barnstar of Good Humor
For having a thoroughly entertaining themed userpage, I award you this barnstar. Oldelpaso 16:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)


[edit] Gerry Armstrong (footballer)

What an excellent job you did. Huge congratulations. --Dweller 09:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

The Running Man Barnstar
I award Slumgum "The Running Man Barnstar" for outstanding contributions to football-related Wikipedia pages Dweller 09:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] World Cup squads

When will the squads be taken down? The World Cup ends on Sunday. Kingjeff 15:50, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Indefinitely usually means never. See Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 June 30 for what's happening for the 1990,94,98 and 2002 templates.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  15:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

First of all, I don't see anything related to the 2006 England squad template and why should we keep a soon to be outdated template? Kingjeff 16:05, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Don't ask me, I'm the person that wanted to get rid of them. All the old ones are proposed for deletion, the current ones will become old ones and will (highly likely) be treated as those are. If you want to delete the old ones, please make your opinion known at the TfD page.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  16:09, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Slumgum, just on the Italian Squad templates. I know for a fact that the Italian ones represent only players loaned in and have never contained players who are at present loaned out as they are simply not part of the squad. Including loaned out players (while owned by the club) would be wrong as they are not technically registered at the club). As it stands, none of the Italian club templates contain loaned-out players. Just thought I'd let you know. Niall123 18:10, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

And what is current situation with Argentina squads templates? May I delete (tfd)tags and create some other old squad templates? --Repli cant 23:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

The debate should be closed by an admin. Looks like it's a stalemate, so they'll get kept, I think.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk   00:55, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] thanks

thanks for the information on "move" function. take care. Squadoosh 01:00, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Function

Fair point on the vandalism point. Was cut and pasting and just got around to changing all the links to what they should have been btw. Niall123 21:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Overlinking

I think you incorrectly reverted my revert on the Scott Carson page. His infobox was overlinked and it shouldn't be that way. I had this argument a few months ago with an admin who basically told me "I don't care if you think it looks messy, but wikipedia policy says that it shouldn't be overlinked". It'd be cool if you revert it back, cheers, aLii 16:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

erk.. you did Zenden too? Revert it please. aLii 16:29, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Overlinking rules do not apply to some categories of pages or sections, such as lists or formal definitions.
 SLUMGUM  yap  stalk  16:30, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I take that to mean that the article and the infobox are both allowed an instance of the same link within the same page, not that an infobox should be allowed infinite instances of the same link. Your interpretation is certainly against the spirit of the overlinking policy, even if not explicitly stated. aLii 16:42, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Gilberto detailed stats

Hi. Since you guided me with Gilberto Silva stats in the past, I hope you can help me again. On http://uk.sports.yahoo.com/fo/profiles/16281.html under "Career History" it has some stats from his previous clubs. Would you use these on Wikipedia? (Are they reliable?) - Are they ok to add to Gilberto's infobox? Thanks very much for any help you can give. --GilbertoSilvaFan 16:50, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cinema Paradiso

Hi! The scene is after about 38 minutes, just after when the Neopolitan wins the pools and before the children tie together the shoelaces of the cinema manager who's putting up a poster. Thank you for replying, I didn't think anyone was interested.  :-) Gillean666 21:26, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

I'll have a look tomorrow.  SLUMGUM  yap  stalk   01:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
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