User talk:Skip Jordan
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[edit] BizLink - Page deletion
Dear Skip,
can you explain me please why a page like "BizLink" is deleted (reason CSD G11 - product/service promotion) and a page like "Borland" or "T-Systems" (for exeample) not? I really don't understand. Both pages can be interpreted as "promotion" for the company products/services. I've thought that wikipedia is a enciclopedia.
A friend of mine (the webmaster of BizLink) has tried yesterday to find "BizLink" ... and no information was found. He was not sure if is possible to publish any information about BizLink ... so ... he made a "test" search for "Microsoft", "T-Systems", Borland and so on ... and he found similar "product/service promotion" information published (for example "T-Systems"). In concordance with the "T-Systems" template he made a short description of BizLink. After few minutes, Cholmes75 has deleted the page. His e-mail answer (for the deletion reason) was:
"The article was written like a press release, using phrases like "BizLink is a leading provider of business development services" and "BizLink is the right destination for companies seeking capital." Someone else flagged it as a candidate for speedy deletion, and I agreed so I deleted it.
As for the T-Systems article, no one had marked it as a promotional article, so that's the main reason it wasn't deleted. After reviewing it, it too seems to fall under the same criteria that the BizLink page did, so I've marked that as a speedy deletion candidate.
One last note - when an article on a company is created or heavily edited by someone whose name matches that of the company, that's usually a red flag for someone reviewing the article. The idea being that if your company was truly notable, someone outside it would have written an article.
Regards, Chris"
Now i've create a absolut neutral description of BizLink, and you come with the proposal for deletion. I really don't understand (you make also "promotion" for your page on your user page or?). If you want to delete this page ... no problem (i don't think that Bizlink need anay promotion at wikipedia). But if you do this, than please delete all similar cases!!! Be consequent! If this will not be the case, i will have no other possibility as to contact wikipedia responsible, to clear this problem. As normal individuum i can't understand why the "conditions" are not the same for all pages published on this platform.
Best Regards, glemm
- Hi Glemm,
- I'm not sure who Chris is.
- The BizLink article hasn't been deleted yet, so it is possible that I made a mistake. If so, I apologize. The speedy deletion tag simply suggests that an admin review the article. If the article has been deleted in the past, it is considered bad form to recreate it repeatedly.
- I agree that T-Systems also reads like an advertisement. I'm not an admin, and as it's already tagged for speedy deletion, there's nothing I can do there. Borland is listed on Nasdaq, was historically important in computing, meets WP:CORP, was presumably written by people unattached to the company, and has multiple references and facts. The article has existed since 2001 and has been edited by hundreds of different people. I believe that it belongs in Wikipedia.
- The link on my userpage to my homepage is specifically allowed by WP:User_page, and exists to show my identity and that I have at least some minimum knowledge of my major. A link to a personal website on one's userpage is fine. The main article space is a little stricter: my homepage certainly doesn't belong as a link on any article, and so it isn't.
- I tagged the BizLink article for speedy deletion because it does not assert notability, sounds like a press release, consists solely of links to the Bizlink homepage, and I felt that it was an advertisement. I've also tagged a fairly large number of other articles for speedy deletion, all of which have been deleted in the past. The normal policy (WP:COI) is to wait for someone else to write about a company that you are involved with. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising.
- As I am not an admin, I can't delete any pages. Due to the sheer number of new articles, I'm certainly not able to review all of them under WP:CSD, nor do I have an obligation to.
- I see that you've placed {{hangon}} in the article and argued for it on the talk page. An admin will review that before deciding. I've answered you on both my talk page and yours, you can answer on either place and I'll see it. Thanks!
- skip (t / c) 08:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
[edit] thanks
thanks for the edit of the typos insearchofwater 04:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
