Talk:Skid row
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WHat is there apart from the band? -- Tarquin
The original meaning of the term -- the place where logs roll down a hill and into the water for lumberjacks to move them down to the mill. Or the second meaning of the term -- the bad part of town. -- Zoe
This is the same as red dwarf(stellar object)/Red Dwarf (television)(scifi sitcom) and quantum leap(physics term)/Quantum Leap(scifi drama). --mav
I don't see that at all. Skid Row would have two capital letters no matter what the context. -- Zoe
- Why? The other contexts are not proper nouns but just regular nouns. --mav
They're place names. -- Zoe
You misunderstand - they are place name types. For example one can talk about the skid row in Los Angeles (note lower case). But the proper name of the place would be Los Angles Skid Row, not just Skid Row. --mav
I disagree, but I'm not going to press it since we haven't had to deal with it up to this time. I'm sure it WILL come up. So, what about the original one, in Seattle? -- Zoe
- IMO opinion when somebody writes Skid Row (note caps) they almost always are talking about the band. Therefore dominant usage wins. The name of the skid row in Seattle would be Seattle's Skid Row in the same way as there is a San Francisco's China Town. Make a disambiguation block at the top of this page. --mav
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- Mav is right, "Skid Row" is the title or formal name of a spacific place, while "skid row" is a type of place that could be named something else. Jake b 04:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
I have never heard of the band.. sorry. For me the dominant usage is the run-down area and the Little Shop of Horrors song! Zargulon 08:51, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
I concur with Zargulon and Zoe, and I disagree with mav. Yes, skid row refers to the generic concept of a run-down area for homeless people, but Skid Row in caps, as used by most journalists, usually refers to a well-known particular Skid Row. The largest and most well-known Skid Row is Skid Row in Los Angeles. The band is obscure, as are most metal bands, due to the fact that most of them lack street cred, as opposed to people with genuine issues to sing about, like 50 Cent. It's true that the band is the first thing that comes up on Google under "skid row," but most of those Web sites (including the band's own Web site) would fail to qualify as reliable sources as to its popularity or notability.
As a better measure of the band's notability, I ran a search on the 46 million articles in InfoTrac OneFile, which your local public library should have access to unless your local library is a total joke (most English-speaking North American public libraries have InfoTrac access). Nearly all the 2,114 hits were about Skid Rows (with capitalization) in Seattle, Portland, Los Angeles, and New York. And we're talking about articles in well-established publications, like U.S. News and World Report, Time, Newsweek, Variety, the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, etc. If this Skid Row band is getting any media coverage, it must be in metal-specific magazines so tiny that they aren't even carried by InfoTrac (which carries the full text of every major magazine in North America back to 1980 plus most smaller ones). --Coolcaesar 07:21, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Skid Row, the band.
Skid Row is also a band, fronted by Sebastian Bach. Classified as 80's hairmetal, but also loved by every genre from classical rock, to punk.
[edit] The Real Skid Row is located in Downtown Los Angeles
You can read the hell we go through at http://Robertocarbajal.itgo.com Hope to never see you there.
- This isn't a pissing contest as to which Skid Row is the "real" one. LA's may be horrendous, but until you've seen East Hastings Street Vancouver's Downtown Eastside (one of the two original Skid Roads, with Seattle's Yesler Way) don't presume that LA's is any worse. I've had visitors to the city from New York and Chicago express amazement at the highly-visible conditions in "our" Skid Road/Row. LA may have borrowed the name Skid Row, as have countless other cities across North America as the term is now idiomatic in English, as is its derivative "on the skids". But LA wasn't even a twinkle in Cecil B. deMille's eye when Vancouver's and Seattle's residents coined the name Skid Road for the back-end of their rough little settlements (1860s, roughly). And BTW the form "Skid Row" is decidedly a Britishism, as a "row" is a British term for a street lined by houses/rowhouses, or perhaps situated on a path along a hedgerow; its original form would appear to have been Skid Road, after the method of building "roads" out of logs to skid freight over the surface of; and the Skid Row adaptation of that is likely British Columbian in ultimate derivation because of the heavy British flavour of Vancouver's dialect, especially from 1885-1914 (the opening of the railway to WWI) when the city's 4/5 male population was decidedly British-majority, and among that overwhelmingly Scots. I can't see the "row" adaption emerging in American English by itself, except perhaps by consonantal laziness dropping the final 'd' off 'Road'.Skookum1 22:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
[edit] disambig
I'd prefer a disambig page for all the Skid Row related articles. I came here looking for the band (with both caps) and was redirected to this one with the small r. Let's just make the first page disambig since there are so many uses for the term. For some of the users here it's a certain street, but for me it's always been the band. *shrug* So let's disambig it. Mithridates 12:26, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
