Talk:Sir John Lauder, 1st Baronet

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Kittybrewster states he created this page. That is untrue. I created it under its earlier title of Lauder baronets. David Lauder 10:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Correct. - Kittybrewster 11:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry, but since when it is importantly who has created an article? May I remind of WP:OWN. ~~ Phoe talk 18:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC) ~~

It is not a question of "ownership" rather that credit be given where it is due. David Lauder 10:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reduced

Who challenged the patent, the eldest son? I'm slightly puzzled as I can't see any legal grounds, LPs to younger sons were valid in both both English and Scots peerage law. Alci12 13:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Rayment says it was annulled. He says nothing about any reduction. By contrast, David Lauder says it was reduced then cancelled. - Kittybrewster 14:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Rayment is wrong here. The eldest surviving son, Lord Fountainhall, engaged in legal battles to have the first Lauder of Fountainhall baronetcy patent overturned. It is worth reading the four long pages of the transcribed and tightly typeset pages of Lord Fountainhall's Legal Memorandum on this issue when he raised a libel action against his step-mother in relation to the destination of the 1st patent, the same Memorandum being used in the action in parliament against the original Patent. The full transcript appears in Appendix XIII, pps: 403-406, in The Grange of St.Giles by J.Stewart Smith, Edinburgh, 1898. David Lauder 10:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)