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[edit] RE: Designing a Barnstar

I personally am a big fan of good old Adobe Photoshop. I use Adobe Photoshop Creative Suite however, any standard version of the program should give you enough to work with. Unfortunately there is no official program built for designing barnstars :P and lack of a good photoeditor hinders some of the freedom you can create with the design. If you type photoshop tutorials on Google you can get some pretty good advice on certain techniques that can make a constructive design. Try to construct a good concept first. Once you have a good idea you have more to work from. For example with the Wildlife Barnstar I first thought up various animal prints to use. Then from there I made the star look less "cut and paste" by making the prints beveled and added a transparent beveled spoke in the middle. Mixing and matching these techniques adds a bit more realism to your star. If you have any other questions feel free to ask me.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 02:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

  • I think its a start, but rather than a phone representing Wikipedia discussion how about a talk bubble or a head that's speaking next to the star?¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 16:29, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes the first one is still a better design. Why not go a bit more simplistic if you are going to use the talking head idea, such as a silhouette?¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:19, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Yes, that design looks way better than your second try. I think the only thing that needs work is maybe changing some of the colors around. However at this point I think its safe to post that design yourself on the proposal page and begin to get the opinions of others. Its always better to design it to cohere with more than one opinion ;).¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 17:56, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] aWARDS

I'll leave my comments here, Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals. --evrik (talk) 16:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Barnstars

You know, I don't think Evrik has ever gotten over his Scouting Barnstar being demoted to a project award. I have never seen him support any nominated Barnstar. Some people become depressing in their predictability. Jeffpw 22:35, 27 November 2006 (UTC),

[edit] Barnstar

I really wonder if there would be any purpose to adding comments to userpage discussion to the barnstar, considering those are allegedly kind of personal anyway. However, if it were to include regularly informing page contributors about the possible deletion or merger of pages they've worked on, that would be I think be possibly valuable. I know a lot of editors fail to notify contributors about such discussions, which I can't fault, but I wouldn't mind seeing maybe the award including people who notify others of discussions started by third parties. By doing so, we would ensure that the relevant parties are notified in any event. So maybe adding something about editors who go the extra step to ensure page contributors are informed of discussions already begun by someone else might not be a bad idea. Badbilltucker 15:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Focusing on controversial pages would probably be a bad idea. There are already several groups and awards for trying to stifle controversy. And the idea above was simply put forward as it does deal with matters relating to talk pages. The major problem with barnstars right now is like you more or less stated, trying not to make so many that if becomes an effort to determine which barnstar is appropriate. Badbilltucker 16:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply

I'd just leave it as "Talk page". If people want to give it for user talk pages, let them, but the focus (IMO) should be on the article talk pages. Jeffpw 17:34, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Reply to Proposal

I am mainly interested in the history of rail transport in Scotland - mainly the Central Belt (as I live near Glasgow, commuting into North Ayrshire - unfortunately by car!!) Stewart 21:04, 28 November 2006 (UTC).

You might also like to interest:-
This is list is a quick trawl of other I know who have been recently contributing to the railway pages I have recently been involved with. Stewart 21:24, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
No problem - that is why I suggested the above. Unfortunately like you I do not have the time to do it justice, but will be able to contribute. The day job unfortunately comes first (especially when late working and business travel happens) Stewart 21:36, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that. I'm up for it. --Guinnog 23:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
Sure. I'm not an expert, but would imagine the first step is getting a few folk to sign up. I'll have a think. I'll be travelling for the next few days, so I'll check back when I can. I would think at least six or eight for a viable project though? --Guinnog 00:01, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks for the message. Count me in, though my knowledge of Edinburgh's rail system is extremely limited, but I should be able to contribute to the Glasgow area. - Dreamer84 18:11, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Sure go right ahead. --Dreamer84 19:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the Invite. I've added my name to the list. Pyrotec 22:47, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] New proposed project

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I can't help think that a simpler name might work better. Have you considered changing the name, possibly to Scottish Rapid Transit or something similar? I grant you that it might broaden the scope of the project a bit, but it would also be quite a bit less cumbersome. Badbilltucker 22:48, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Good idea to get a shorter title. Stewart 06:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
Had another look at the Temporary Project page. If we are looking at heavy rail that the GARL, Edinburgh Crossrail, etc would fit. Especially when you consider that Glasgow has one of the largest rail networks outside London. Possibly the suggestion for Scotland's Railways is the probably a solution. If you are considering light rail then it will cover Glasgow Subway and Edinburgh trams. Soory I have not given a straight answer to you question. Stewart 21:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broadness of Transport Project

Have to say I'm in two minds about whether including all transport around Glasgow and Edinburgh is the way to go. Someone mentioned in the comments for your proposal that it could be included and just left to whoever wanted to do that particular area, which may be a good idea. Following commuter lines out of Glasgow to Ayrshire eventually leads to other forms of transport anyway, ie the harbours at Ardrossan, Troon etc. And then theres the future airport links and the existing one at Prestwick. I think I'm leaning towards the opinion of Canaen on the proposal page: make it a broad transport in Scotland project, but we can start in a relatively small area (i.e. the Central Belt and surrounding area) and expand from there. I'll be looking to see what the others think though. --Dreamer84 00:09, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

The Project Guide generally has better information regarding how to set up a new project than I myself will generally be able to supply. That is probably the best place to go for all matters relating to projects. Having said that, this is what I see from the Guide regarding the questions you asked. Gernally, I've heard about five members is the minimum necessary. One thing you might consider is whether there is already an existing project whose scope includes all the articles within your project, and see if they would be willing to take on your group a task force. If yes, most of your questions are answered, and that other project will be able to assist you in setup. If not, then you would have to go as an independent project. If this is the case, having looked at your project page, you would have to create a category whose name is more in line with existing categories, like for instance, Category:Transport in Glasgow and Edinburgh, to put your articles in, transfer the signatures from the proposed project page to your specific project page, create a banner and userbox, move the project page to regular wiki-space (Wikipedia:...), remove the project from the list of proposed projects and add it to the new projects section of the Wikipedia:Community Portal (not required but a good idea), inform all the individuals who expressed interest in the project that the project has now officially started, and then the project is ready to roll. I know that that sounds like a lot, but it actually isn't that much. Also, if you wished, you might wish to join the WikiProject Council, where there are a number of people with rather broader experience than I have in a number of fields who might be able to assist you in areas where I am less knowledgable. Like I said, it sounds like a lot, but isn't really that much (maybe 20 minutes work total). And remember you can always copy someone else's banner and userbox and just substitute in the picture and name for your own project, so that doesn't have to be very complicated. If you do have any further questions, please feel free to contact me. Good luck with the new project!! Badbilltucker 00:15, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Changing the name of the project has no bearing on anything, except, maybe, pages that linked to the old page, which I don't think would be a problem in this instance. And, again, if you have reservations about setting up as an independent project, you might ask the Scotland project if they would want to take you on as a subproject. I know several of the broader projects, like Biography, are trying to create subprojects so that there can be greater focused attention paid to specific subjects. Scotland may like to do so as well. And becoming a part of an existing broader project eliminates the necessity of having to create a separate banner (and takes up less space on the talk page too) and other details. Even if they don't decide to take you on, they would probably be able to offer some support to a new related project. If you have any further questions, please feel free to let me know, and good luck. Badbilltucker 14:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Probably the best way to ask the Scottish project would be to post a message on the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland page saying that you have received sufficient interest in your project to create it, but that you personally think it might function better as a subproject of their existing project, and ask them whether they would be willing to formalize such an arrangement. I can't know what their response would be, but I think that it is more likely than not to be a yes. Anyway, once you receive their response, that would probably indicate which direction to follow. Badbilltucker 15:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
I very much doubt your membership in the Scotland project would be an issue. Of course, it would probably be a good idea to join the project if your group does become an official subproject. Alternately, you could consider proposing the subproject arrangement to either Wikipedia:WikiProject Transportation or Wikipedia:WikiProject Rapid transit, both of which would also seemingly qualify as parent organizations. And I doubt if existing membership there would be a factor, either. Badbilltucker 15:44, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Sorry if I keep adding to the wrong heading, by the way. No, it really wouldn't matter if you just copied the names from the one list on to the other, as by adding their names to the list they indicated they would be members of the project. It might be a good idea to drop them a note that the project has been formally started now, though. Badbilltucker 17:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
It takes a while to get any project off the ground. And seven members is still a good number to start out with. At this point, I would start adding the banner to the talk pages of all the articles involved, and work on developing the project page a little. The presence of all those stub markers could be a little off-putting. I can try to add a little myself, but I am much less sure of what the project intends to do, so please feel free to severaly edit and otherwise hack away at any mistakes I put on the page. Badbilltucker 17:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
Wasn't saying it was. However, I got the impression that their manual of style is probably the most applicable of all the existing ones to this particular project. If someone wanted to, they could in effect copy it onto a subpage of the project and make any specific changes, if any, they saw fit. And, of course, it could always be removed later. And whoever adds the banners to the talk pages of the project's articles would probably be in the best position to note which are good or featured articles or candidates. Lastly, I'm not adding this to the new draft (which you are free to revise anyway) but you might consider the rather tedious task of creating a Wikipedia:WikiProject Transport in Scotland/Articles page, listing all the articles within the scope of the project, which can then be used to help display recent changes in the articles which fall within the scope of the project. I don't have the exact code required to make that function happen in front of me now, but I know I could find it if you decided to implement it. And I just added rather a lot to the project page. I know some of it might be falt out wrong, so please feel free to make any changes you see fit. I also added a category at the bottom, Category:WikiProject Transport, which does not explicitly imply that your project is a sub-unit of their project, but is just more or less a category for projects dealing with transport. You probably should have some sort of WikiProject Category added to the page to make it easier for people to know how to reach it. Anyway, please feel free to correct any and all of my mistakes, and feel free to contact me if you have any questions. Good luck with the project. Badbilltucker 18:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
They won't clash, because the typing has to be very specific and I have trouble seeing most people confusing an E and an I. However, if you wanted to change it to WPTiS (lower-case i) that would make it that much harder for people to mistakenly type the wrong banner's name in. Badbilltucker 18:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Elaborate

Regarding the message you placed on my talk page, please jog my poor memory and give me some extra context. I don't really remember what your comment relates to. bibliomaniac15 00:58, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Major UK railway stations

{{Major UK railway stations}} Talk page

In a nutshell, the criteria for inclusion for non-London stations is either:

  1. The station is the top 40 for passenger numbers (see here); or
  2. A consensus is achieved on the talk page that a station is a major interchange (the passenger numbers indicate those starting/ending their journey at the station, so interchanges appear underused). Currently Crewe, Derby and Glasgow Queen Street have been included under this criteria.

Given Norwich doesn't fit under (1), please discuss it on the talk page. Tompw 23:04, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

"Major" as in it's also not just a transport hub, but an interchange betwene major routes, not between just between minor lines or commuter ruotes. Places like Norwich, Exeter, Hull, or Didcot don't cut it. The bar is set high, because the number of stations was getting too large to make the template useful.
I also note that you added Manchster Victoria, Hull and Doncaster without any discussion on the template's talk page.
Usage figures.... yes these aren't 100% accurate, and only show journeys starting/ending at the station, not chnages... and also issues when you get group tickets. This is precisely why option (2) exsists... please, if you want to add a station, propose it on the talk page. The we can (hopefully) achieve a Consensus. Tompw 23:31, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Collaboration

It was a nomination by mself to have The Tube Tv series as the collaboration but because it wasn't supported I scrapped it as it wasn't physically about the tube. You also cannot expand it as much as the new collaboration. The 1992 stock needs a lot more expanding. Unisouth 16:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] About those assessments I just did

I know some of them will be a bit off - I think I'll try to get them across the entire Tube station network over the weekend, depending on work. Thanks for those corrections, RHB 20:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re:Comment

Yes, I am very pleased to have admin abilities, and I wish to put them to good use, so if you ever need me, just let me know. --Gray PorpoiseYour wish is my command! 22:28, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] RE: Proposals page

I was finalizing the Fauna Barnstar :P, I accidently added an improper heading which I corrected now.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:53, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Re: tube stations

Agreed; I've found a few other instances today of inappropriate template parameters. I must've missed a couple while working through Category:Unknown-importance rail transport articles (which still has over 5,000 articles that need an importance rating) today. Thanks for keeping up and catching them. Slambo (Speak) 18:25, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Function

Would this effect PockBot's function if i have just changed the name of one of the stations it is yet to classify? Simply south 20:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Not at all, go ahead - PocklingtonDan 20:31, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion Barnstar

Funny you messaged me, since I was just thinking about it. Last time I checked, it was 6 supports to 1 oppose. If it's been more than two weeks, you can summarize the voting and move it to the Barnstar section if you want. If you're not comfortable with the idea of doing it, I can do it for you. That's assuming, of course, that there hasn't been a significant change since I last checked.Jeffpw 22:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

  • That sounds good. That way, if there are any objections they can be discussed beforehand. This is the way it went when the LGBT Barnstar was nominated and moved. I'll give you support when you post. Jeffpw 22:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • I just posted in support of your summary and moving the Barnstar. I think it's very conscientious of you to alert everyone who has voted. Jeffpw 22:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
  • perfect. Jeffpw 23:07, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
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