Talk:Simian

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[edit] Why revert my change?

It currently reads, "the 'higher primates' very common to most people: the monkeys and the apes, including humans."

You realize that that makes it sound like humans are included in the category of monkeys or apes. Replacing "including" with "and" shows we are among the higher primates, but we are not apes. It would also make sense to say "the 'higher primates' very common to most people, including humans, as well as monkeys and the apes." When you reverted me without an explanation, that makes me look like a vandal. I don't like that. CanadianCaesar 20:27, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

My apologies if you think I'm calling you a vandal. I'm not. As to the meat of your issue, humans are apes, from the biological perspective, and this is a biological article. - UtherSRG 20:50, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

Aren't we hominids? I've heard biologists say hominids are not apes. Are there two different biologies? CanadianCaesar 21:53, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Did you even look at the listed taxonomies? Look at the last two sections of ape in particular. - UtherSRG 22:03, July 20, 2005 (UTC)

I feel really bad about this. For the record, I thought I was correcting grammar, not biology. The last point was just a question ("Are there different perspectives?" would have been better wording), not an argument. *bangs head on desk, banishes self from Simian article* CanadianCaesar 22:06, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry again CanadianCaesar 22:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

*grins* Not a problem! The problem is that "correcting" the grammar changes the biology, hence the reason for the grammar usage. - UtherSRG 22:12, July 20, 2005 (UTC)