Talk:Siegfried Schtauffen

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[edit] Siegfried as Main Character?

What's the explanation for Siegy being the "main protagonist"? if anything, since he becomes Nightmare once he's consumed by Soul Edge, he seems like the main antagonist since Inferno is really a face-less boss character and Cervy was defeated. i'm not familiar enough with the back histories of all the characters to choose a main protagonist but it seems like Xianghua or Sophitia would fit the role. Bubbachuck 23:29, 25 July 2005 (UTC)

Well, I would suggest that you click on the protagonist link then, because the description definitely fits, especially now that he has possession over both Soul Edge and Soul Calibur, and is guarding them heavily in a cathedral somewhere. The only time he can be described as the antagonist is when he is in the azure armor, but that wouldn't really go on the Siegfried page. At least I wouldn't put it there. And the main antagonist really is Inferno; he is the will of Soul Edge, but since he isn't getting his own page, it can't really be listed. Inferno is a lot more powerful than a faceless boss character. Sophitia and Xianghua are definitely key protagonists in their respective stories, but Siegfried is always clearly the chief character in his story at the time in which he doesn't have the azure armor on. Even his background is just as lengthy--if not more--as any other character, and that's before he even does anything; and once he starts doing things within the games' storylines, he accomplishes a lot. You have to notice that as soon as Nightmare is defeated and he becomes Siegfried again the first time, he is again thrust into the foreground for a whole second half to the Soul Calibur I storyline. --Shackleton (25 July 2005)

OK, read "protagonist" and i see your point now. Bubbachuck 02:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

I seriusly disagree with Siegfried being the main protagonist. Surely he is the most evoled character along the history, but during SC1 and SC2, you could consider Siegfried being the antagist and so the main characters would be Kilik, Xianghua and Maxi. I know he is a great character and is even one of my favourites, but just because Siegfried had been given a great importance at SC3 doesn't make him the protagonist of the whole serie. (In fact, I'd bet that his rol will be much minor in SC4 if there is one) -Alexander

OK, this was enough. Let's put it simple: Games like Soul Calibur does NOT have main character or protagonist. In the game, you choose your character, you play with it, and that character is the protagonist of his/her own history, whenever the character is good or evil, it doesn't matter.

Inferno could be considered the Main Antagonist cause he has been the final boss for EVERY character during the first three games, and even came back for SC3: Arcade Edition, and has never been playable (Without hacking the game)

But Siegfried has no way a rol like that, so he is one more of the many characters, just like any other. Proclaming him the hero, protagonist or even main character is only subjective, so stop doing it. (Alexlayer 19:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC))

[edit] Storytelling

Some of this seems more like storytelling than an encyclopedic article. Thoughts? -Raijinili 05:05, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

There're few who are interesting in answering our "thoughts" call, I bet this will not get too far...on topic, I think the same. I've thinking on re-writing it, removing over-detailed details and those subtitles (which I hate). So, if no one has objections, I'll do it. (Johnny Master 04:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)).

I'll revert once again. The original profile is not better because of the following:

1. Speculation (there's not official account of Kilik defeating Nightmare because he was distracted. Kilik defeating him, nothing more is said.)
2. Over-detailed information (there's no need to write detailed entry about Astaroth or Lizardman's defeat.)
3. Unchanged official info (as already done with Cassandra, the copy-and-paste must go)
4. Things said more than once (there's two instance referring to Siegfried's self-induced ideal of his father's killer).
5. Story-telling (as said above).

The sub-titles can stay, but the profile wrote as it not.

I've found a picture of what seems to be Siegfried! from Soul Edge. The site is in the same picture. Perhaps anyone can confirm it. Image:Sigfried!.jpg

[edit] Siegfried's Ending

There has been a point in the Trivia added more than once about what happens to Nightmare in Siegfriend's Ending if the players input the code. Now, this point in the trivia it's not only wrong (It's state that Nightmare will be striked by a lighting bolt if the players input the code, when that really happens if the player does NOT input the code)

And the analisys are only speculation, wondering what happened to Nightmare after that, when first: We don't know if Siegfried's Ending is Canon or not (His battle against Nightmare probably is, but that's appart from the endings), and if anyone analyzes that ending, it's easy to deduce that those 3 Nightmare were an hallucination caused by Soul Edge, like the fact that Siegfried saw his hand as Nightmare's just before he appeared, and the fact that, whenever the Nightmares are beated by the Thunder or by Siegfried's attack, they just dissapear leaving nothing and it's the white covering the screen is like it's meaning that the hallucination is over. Nightmare probably wasn't even there, and if he really was, what happened to him is left in shadows, and we'll hardly know until Soul Calibur 4.

Because of all this, the mentioned point in the Trivia is practically ridiculous, I'm deleting it, and please, don't repost it anymore neither in Siegfried's or Nightmare's page. (Alexlayer 16:14, 4 August 2006 (UTC))