Talk:Siamese (cat)

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The cat on the picture is not Siamese breed, but rather a mix between a Siamese and a ordinary gray "tiger" car. It can be seen on the colour of the head and the tail. So change the picture.

The picture's caption is "A chocolate tabby pointed Siamese", or Siamese mix. If you have a better public domain or free-license picture of a Siamese cat available, please upload it. – Quadell ^{(talk) (help)}[[]] 18:22, Nov 17, 2004 (UTC)

What's with the links to entries on colors? The only way that is useful is if it links to the actual cat colors. Blue linking to blue just shows normal bright blue, which is the color of no cat I am aware of. The sentence even refers to "cat colours," but each reference is just about the normal color.

Contents 1 pictures of Siamese cats 2 That innocent look. 3 Meowing 4 Crazy Siamese-only stunts? 5 Jake 6 Tail hook for rings? 7 External links 8 Discussion of incorrect name in other sources 9 "They usually get on well with other cats" -- WHAT??? 10 English spelling

[edit] pictures of Siamese cats

I have some great photos of Siamese cats. I will to add them when/if I work out how.

You have to have an account to upload stuff. Click here to create an account. Once you're logged in, click the "Upload file" link on the left side of the screen, and follow the directions. Some good pictures of Siameses would be great. If you need help adding them to the article, let me know. [[User:Lachatdelarue|Lachatdelarue (talk)]] 22:59, 22 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I don't understand this, I downloaded a picture of one of my Traditional Siamese girls to be a part of this page and I can't find it anywhere?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by TrinnyTrue (talk • contribs) .

The image is Image:Niobe050905.jpeg. To use it in the article, simply enclose it in double square brackets, but without the colon (look at wikicode of my message to see what I mean). By the way, you can sign your edits with four tildes.--Drat (Talk) 19:49, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

I added the image because it was a better quality image (no red-eye) than the one that was there. My Siamese is also traditional. Does anyone have a good image of a modern Siamese so we can illustrate that aspect of the breed as well? --Ginkgo100 ^{talk · contribs} 23:22, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

Thank you so much for adding Niobe's image : ) I have a picture of a Classic Siamese I cannot provide a picture of a Modern Siamese as I only breed Traditional and occasionally Classic. TrinnyTrue

[edit] That innocent look.

Is the 'look of innocence' common to Siamese (or rather, is it worth writing about in the article)? You know, when they know they've done something wrong, and they give you that look. Our siamese cats did that from time to time. Damn I miss them (they passed away in '95, '03 and '04 at 4, 13 and 15 respectively). I may upload a cute pic of one of them asleep on a printer (from memory worthy for the page, not just a cute pic).--DooMDrat 00:35, Feb 24, 2005 (UTC)

Our Siamese is perfect in every way, so she's never had to assume an innocent look. Except for hissing at other cats, but she feels no shame about that. SnappingTurtle 13:28, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Meowing

Does anyone know what the genetic basis for Siamese propensity for meowing is? It seems generally acknowledged that Siamese are more talkative than most other breeds. I can personally attest to this.

I don't know about the genetics, but I do fondly remember listening to some of the funny sounds the cats would make. "MaaaaaAAAAAaaaarrowwwwph!" and such. The oldest one, sometimes when she was alone in a different part of the house, and feeling lonely, would boost her volume to insane levels. She had a very distinct voice when she was calling for "her" humans.--DooMDrat 16:52, Mar 12, 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Crazy Siamese-only stunts?

Perhaps a mention of the stunts certain Siamese love is worthwhile. I have a 7-year-old Siamese who gets wound up and will jump three feet off the ground to attack me, or he'll run up, slap my leg with his "power paw" and run off. They're a menace - luckily his loyalty makes up for his insanity. My other cats don't even approach the crazy Siamese.

(new) My mom used to have a bunch of crazy Siamese, one would run around the room in a circle over and over, sometimes running on the wall like matrix. They talk a lot. I want to get I siamese, but I would like to adopt a mature cat who needs a home from an animal shelter so I might not be too picky about the breed.

[edit] Jake

somebody listed Jake from the Cat from Outer Space here. Jake was an Abyssinian (cat), a totally different breed.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hailey C. Shannon (talk • contribs) .

[edit] Tail hook for rings?

Many Siamese cats from Siam had a kink in their tails but over the years this traits has been considered to be a flaw and breeders have largely eradicated it.

I've been told that the tail bend was legendarily meant to have something to do with a princess hanging her rings on the cat's tails. Does anyone have suitable reference matter that mentions this (or something similar) at all? -Quiddity 05:21, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

I've read a different one, about a king in Siam who was being slowly poisoned. All the attempts to keep him isolated were not effective, so his cat kept it's tail curled around his chalice in order to guard it even while asleep. It worked, and that's supposed to be why the cats now have the kink — due to the cat keeping it's tail curled like that for weeks. The problem is that I read this many years ago, and can't remember the book in which I read it. I can't remember if it was retelling of a legend, or a children's story; if it is a kid's story, I have no idea if it was based on a legend or not.--Drat (Talk) 05:59, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] External links

I removed the external links section, in accordance with WP:EL. All but one link promoted various clubs; the link about Siamese history contained redundant information with the article. If any other editors used one or more of these links as a source for the article, please add it back under Notes so we preserve the citation. --Ginkgo100 ^{talk · contribs} 18:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Discussion of incorrect name in other sources

"Several sources give Gould's brother Owen Nutcombe Gould (1857-1929) as the British Consul-General in Bangkok, but Owen was only 27 in 1884 and not known to be in Bangkok." It is valuable that the editor included this information, since many sources do repeat the incorrect name. but seems like this sentence might be better as a note than within the main body of the article? I didn't feel so strongly as to change it but thought I'd mention it here. Wichienmaat 14:15, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] "They usually get on well with other cats" -- WHAT???

Every Siamese I've ever known has regarded all other cats as the enemy. That is true for our Siamese, who hisses and spits at any other cat she sees. She also detests other animals. She loves my wife and me and is generally friendly with other humans.

Really, that statement took me aback. I thought Siamese were known for fighting other cats unless they were all raised together. SnappingTurtle 13:26, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

I don't believe there is a citation for that particular statement, so it is unverified. You should feel free, therefore, to remove it, as it is the responsibility of the editor adding information to provide verification.

As for my own experience (which is WP:OR and can't be included in the article), one Siamese I had hated other cats, while my current Siamese gets along pretty well with my other cat. I have no idea how these experiences generalize to the breed in general. --Ginkgo100 ^{talk · e@} 20:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Unpredictability is more a Siamese trait than amiability to their own kind. Probably (and this is OR) due to the fact they consider themselves superior to humans, let alone other cats. :) Blackjack4124 05:28, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] English spelling

I noticed this article mixes American and British spelling. I checked the article history and first major contributions all used British spelling, so I am going to boldly change all the spellings to British. I normally use American spelling, so it is quite likely I will miss some; if so, please feel free to fix it. --Ginkgo100 ^talk 21:41, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

The folks who are changing back and forth need to stop the meaningless revert war. It is appropriate to use either English or US spelling, depending on the article subject; here, the subject is neither primarily English nor US, and so it's important just to pick one and stick with it. Ginkgo100 was perfectly reasonable in picking the English spelling, so that should be it. Stop the US spelling reverts, other folks! --LQ 22:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)