Talk:Sheffield Wednesday F.C.

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Contents 1 A bit of a clean up 2 History 3 Former Players 4 Scandal of 1964 5 Badge 6 Today's Featured Article suggestion 7 Edits by 195.93.21.70 8 Football Kit Template 9 Champions League 10 Deletion

[edit] A bit of a clean up

I cleaned up the introduction blurb it does not in my opinion reach NPOV standards and was not an neutral point of view Red under the bed 17:18,18 november 2006 (UTC)

[edit] History

The History section of this page has been moved to History of Sheffield Wednesday F.C.

I am in the process of summarising the info in this section to give a brief overview of the history of the club.

Any major additions should be made at History of Sheffield Wednesday F.C. Dan1980 19:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Former Players

This section is currently not adding much value to the article. Its an unhelpful list which most people would simply pass over. My suggestion would be to reduce it down to 10 or less players and then including details such as years with club, position, appearences and goals. Any objections? josh (talk) 16:37, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

I'd remove it for the simple reason that you can't put every former player and on the other extreme it's hard to limit it to 10 players as there will always be a difference of opinion (it's not like ur a small club and only have 5 notable players etc) of which 10 to include, there's a link at the bottom to former players...that should be enough imo. If not, you could base on the Sheffield Wednesday all time XI (I'm sure they'll be some sort of poll in regards to this conducted sometime, I've checked the legends section on the official website and that has too many players to include). Englishrose 18:10, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

A Sheffield Wednesday XI was produced in the last couple of seasons. I'm not sure who was in the list, but I'm sure it will be on the net somewhere. I would have no objection with the section being removed as there is now a seperate page dedicated to the subject. Dan1980 07:17, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Scandal of 1964

Rather surprised that there is no article on the 1964 scandal and have been wanting to write one but have not had a good enough reference. However, good article in The Times, Saturday (23 July 2006) interviewing Swan. I have started the Tony Kay article, I think that it is the easiest. However, the scandal does not seem to have a name. I have suggested Sheffield Wednesday scandal as it is descriptive and should unambiguously describe the event. Other ideas welcome. Cutler 10:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

BTW - any help with giving Vic Buckingham the article that he deserves would be welcome. Cutler 10:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I've been thinking about the same thing, and found the same article, but the name isn't expansive enough. The Sheffield Wednesday players were only involve in part of a larger scandal. Over 10 footballers were jailed over the incident and it would be better if the article could cover the whole scandal rather than the Wednesday-Ipswich match alone. Perhaps British betting scandal of 1964 could work. josh (talk) 11:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm definately with Josh on this one. Sheffield Wednesday scandal makes it sound like it was only SWFC as a club that were involved, whereas the truth is that it was a few SWFC players along with several players from other clubs. British betting scandal of 1964 would be much more appropriate. Dan1980 20:02, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

OK, I hadn't realised that other players were exposed though it always seems to be the Wednesday players who are remembered. I will probably start a stub soon. Cutler 22:49, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Badge

Found a supurb page on the subject here. Its a personal site but well researched. I've managed to match up a couple of the facts with published other sources. There is a picture of the city crest being used on a program in the early fifties in Sheffield Football: A History and the 1970 creation of the modern badge matches up other research. The original badge appears with dates of use. It also comes with a bibliography. Any opinions on the usablity of this material. josh (talk) 12:29, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

I've added a fairly large section on the badges now along with three new images. -- Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 16:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Today's Featured Article suggestion

I have suggested this article for use on the Main Page as Today's featured article. I have used the club crest as the thumb image to accompany it, does anyone think that any of the other images would be better. Please feel free to add your comments here. -- Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 19:48, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations on getting the Wednesday article up to featured article standard. Dan1980 and joshurtree you've done a great job Mick Knapton 20:03, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

Congrats on getting the article to an FA. But they won't bother putting the club crest on the homepage, as it isn't a free image. So the image will probably be something else from the article.--Skully Collins 11:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Edits by 195.93.21.70

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[edit] Football Kit Template

In response to Panarjedde's removal of detail from the away kit design, I reverted this edit as no consensus has been reached on this issue. Your so-called policy agreement was actually two separate discussions (not polls) [1][2] where the issue became rather heated and there was clearly no consensus reached. As per Wikipedia policy if no consensus is reached the article should be left as it is, hence why I reverted your removal of the kit design from this page.

There is no good reason to remove detail from the away kit, the design and colour of the kit changes every season or two, hence detail on the kit is integral to the design. As has been mentioned several times before there are no shortage of people to watch these pages and make sure that the kit designs are kept up to date; this page even has its own Wikiproject that will ensure that the kit design is changed when necessary. It should also be noted that removing content from Wikipedia without good cause is considered vandalism. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 08:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

4 to nil is consensus, according to me. Even 4 to 1, counting your vote against.--Panarjedde 22:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

4 to nil? There were more than ten contributors to those discussions, so where do you get nil from?! Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 19:24, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Pleeeze lemme see the kits :( Chivista 19:13, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

I would like to see the detail on the awayu unis. :( Chivista 18:34, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the colours. :)

[edit] Champions League

This has to be a mistake I recon. The first paragraph of the article states that SWFC have won the Champions League 17 times. Could this be corrected please? Kev. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 217.196.238.157 (talk • contribs).

This vandalism has now been removed. Dan1980 (talk | stalk) 14:31, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion

Sheffield Wednesday F.C. squad, part of the SWFC project, is up for deletion and no-one seems to be defending it (apart from me, a Unitedite for 50 years) although it has been worked on for 6 months or so. (See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sheffield United F.C. squad) roundhouse 14:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)