Talk:Sheepshead
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[edit] Other Cards needed
The only images i could find were the ones on the right which obviously do not fit into the table. If anyone happens to have the approriate pictures, that would be great :)
RichiH 16:28, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Playing Alone
It's the picker versus the other 4 plays. Picker had better have an awesome hand!
(More information about playing alone later...)
[edit] Schafkopfen entry needs major overhaul
I looked up the wikipedia entry on Schafkopf because I wanted to teach some friends of mine here in the US how to play and found a lot of errors in your description of the game. I think this entry needs a major overhaul. I've lived for thirty years in Munich, Bavaria and grew up playing the game.
Biggest grief I have with the article is the blind.
As opposed to Skat there is no blind in Schafkopf. In a regular 4 player game each player is dealt 8 cards. Each player looks at all his cards. The first player after the dealer announces wheter he wishes to play by saying either "spielen" (play) or "weiter" (next). Then the player behind him can announce wheter he wishes to play or not. If one of the players has already stated he wants to play, the next player behind him can only play if he has a better game. The order is "Sauspiel" (calling an ace), "Wenz" (a solo with only Unter or jacks, Ober or Queens are not trumps), "Solo" (solo with all the trumps). There is a little Variation as in what games are allowed and what not. For example in some places you can play only "farblosen Wenz" (a "Wenz" with no suit being named trump)whereas in others you can name it with a suit. This is regional different and players make sure which rules and games are in place before they begin to play.
Another thing, the default suit for trumps is hearts not diamonds.
Also the game is played by default for money not points. Before the game starts a "Tarif" is agred upon. Usually this is expressed as three numbers.
Example: 5/10/20 "Fuenferl,zehnerl,zwanzig" meaning 5 cents for trumps or other extraconditions as Schneider,Schneiderschwarz 10 cents for a "sauspiel" and 20 cents for a solo
If the "Tarif" consists of only two numbers, the smaller figure is used for "Sauspiel" and extra conditions. The winner has to demand his payment. The loosers pay him whatever he asks. However if he asked to little he only gets what he asked. If he asked to much the loosing side can ask him double the money back. In some places it is only the difference of what he asked to much that gets paid back double. Trumps are only counted as extra condition if you have (or didn't have) them in an uninterrupted order from the top down and have (or don't have) at least 3. In some places 2 are enough to count.
Example: The Game was a called Ace of Diamonds (Schellensau). The players won with 96 points and had the three highest trumps. 10 cents (game) +5 cents (Schneider) +15 cents (3 * 5 cents for each trump) =30 cents
If the player demanded 25 cents he got 5 cents less than he could have had. If he demands 35 cents he has to pay back either 70 cents or 10 cents, depending on the rule being used. So if you're not sure wheter you or your partner had the trump in the beginning you're usually better off asking for less. Beginners have sometimes troubles remembering their cards. Among experienced players this usually doesn't occur.
If the player(s) loose with 60 points it triggers a round of special games, like for example "Ramsch" (leaster) or "Bock" (first player after the dealer gets the two highest trumps and he must play a solo). These rounds are usually more expensive than regular play but the game used is different from place to place.
If you're not playing but you a sure you can win you can declare a "Stoss" (push) as long as you still got 8 cards. So if you're the last to throw there might be already three cards on the table.It adds a x2 multiplier to the value of the game and you're considered the player now, meaning you need 61 points to win. The opposing player(s) can declare "zurueck" (back) as long as he has 7 cards on his hand making him/them the player(s) again and raising the multiplier to 3.
Cards are dealt in sets of four. If no one wants to play the money for a called ace game with no other conditions is thrown into the "Pot". If the players win the next game they divide the money among themselves, if they loose they have to double the money that is allready in the "Pot". It can only be taken out of the "Pot" with a called ace game, but you still have to double the "Pot" if you loose a solo. In some places people play a game of leaster if noone wants to play instead of a pot. This is usually practiced by players who hate "Maurer" (people who are afraid to play if they don't have all the good trumps)as it encourages more risky games. Since leasters pay out like solos it usually works.
And finally as a little sidenote. The game is not named after the head of a sheep. Even though todays german language might suggest that. It is a little known fact (even in Germany) that the name derives from an much older form of german. The term "Schaffen" ment a barrel and "kopfen" ment playing cards. In the 17.th century "Landsknechte" (basicaly mercenaries) used to play cards on overturned barrels. So the name means "playing cards on a barrel".
[edit] Blitz's and Cracks
I've expanded this area to discuss more variations in doubling, but I'm not sure I explained it the best. Would someone check it out? shijeru 07:22, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Major overhaul
I think the article needs an overhaul especially to distinguish between variants played in Germany and in the USA--LN2 11:24, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Major Revision
I just completed a major overhaul of the page, trying to make it sound more formal and to make things clearer and more concise. I rearranged things, organized the page more, and added some new areas.
I apologize for throwing out a lot of the previous work, but I felt that a lot of the examples were unnecessary and made the page less clear and straightforward.
The flow was also in need of work, and now things are all in one place.
If people disagree with the changes I made, I would like to hear your thoughts.--OneTwentySix 07:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
