Talk:Shane Bugbee

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This article was nominated for deletion on July 20, 2006. The result of the discussion was no consensus.

[edit] Article Revamp

The article has been significantly modified given the concerns, comments, and facts that came to light during the AfD discussion. Please do not revert or re-enter deleted parts of this article without discussion. Detruncate 23:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

I added "Dana Plato of Diff'rent Strokes fame who later made bi-sexual porn films". This is a hard fact and is of encyclopedic value because the external links all mention Plato's porn career in realtion to Bugbee. 617USA

I reverted the page back to the previous version by SarekofVulcan, as IP 70.100.87.53 added everything in that had been excised after the AfD. Do not add in previously deleted material again without offering sufficient explanation on the talk page. Detruncate 15:51, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

I have reverted this entry back to my last edit which includes a more complete list of Shane Bugbee's releases and works. Please stop this ridiculous behavoir of removing and slandering Shane Bugbee, you only continue to make yourselves look foolish and petty. Amy bugbee sept. 20, 06

Thank you for using the discussion page. However, article information needs to meet some standards. It has to be reliably sourced and notable. For instance, there is no evidence whatsoever that Mr. Bugbee had anything to do with a 'A question of doubt.' Furthermore, there is no evidence that he manned an underground press tent or that there even was an underground press tent at the first Lollapalooza. These are just a few examples. The article is literally filled with more of the same. Self publishing is almost always non-notable, and that makes up the bulk of his accomplishments. Given that he's likely not even notable enough to have a wikipedia article, continually adding in self promotional material only increases the chances that the article will be deleted. Please refer to the deletion vote archive (top of the page) for more information on why the current version is preferred. --Detruncate 14:18, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

SELF PUBLISHING???? Shane Bugbee has published underground cartoonist Mike Diana, Randall Phillip, Al Frank, among others, not to mention he put out the Dorothea Puente cookbook, all of these things are documentable and noteable. While I can understand your desire to remove "Self Promotion", and I am certainy willing to play by those rules, Mr. Bugbee is at least as noteable as many of the "transgressive artists" listed, as much as Randall Phillip, Jim Goad and Mike Diana who all have entries. Certainly the publisher is as important as the artists he published, and beyond that, he has been recognized in numerous magazine and newspaper articles. If Shane Bugbee is not noteable enough, then many of the people and things listed on wikipedia should not be. I would also like to point out that most of the living artists that are on wikipedia, all have links to their personal websites. Please stop eliminating his very large list of releases, Answer Me and Might Is Right are but two in a long career of work. I will avoid adding overzealous promotion, but facts are real, and documentable. [User: Amy Bugbee], Sept 22, 06

Thanks again for using the discussion page before initiating large scale changes to the article. Your point about publishing is a good one, but the issue here is the breadth of the publishing. Paying to have the works of others printed up is not really notable unless they are integrated somehow into a distribution network. For instance the 'Cooking with a Serial Killer Recipes From Dorothea Puente' appears and is availible on amazon.com so it would probably be fair to have it listed in the article. Possible the Dana Plato's last breath cd as well, though that's more questionable as it's not availible currently and was of limited distribution to begin with. Anything that can be verified from a source that is itself notable can be reasonably included within the article. Detruncate 22:44, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I have tidied the article up a bit by correcting some minor grammar and removing some non-notable, unsourced info. I have also now updated to reflect the true status of the association with Dana Plato. I am wondering if an article is even appropriate for this person; I have doubts he is considered noteworthy enough. He also seems to be simply using the link to this article on his website(s), perhaps to make it look as if someone else has written an article about him and that he is "famous". Edited to add: I have now read the deletion discussion. [User:porpita]5 November 2006

Again, Shane Bugbee's ownership of Radio Free Satan has been taken out. Also, there is a full chapter on him in the book 'Art That Kills' by George Petros talking about his importance to the transgressive art movement of the 80s and 90s. Why does that keep being removed? Shane Bugbee has not written any of this article. I, Amy Bugbee have, and have made no secret of the fact I am one of the authors, he is worthy of an entry not because I am his wife and think he's great, but because he has done a great deal for underground culture, the fight against censorship, and as a journalist. Amy Bugbee 12-6-06