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Is it more properly Seychelles or the Seychelles? That is, History of Seychelles or History of the Seychelles? I notice they're not all in agreement. e.g. Demographics of Seychelles vs. Economy of the Seychelles. --KQ 20:58 Sep 6, 2002 (UCT)

Short form "Seychelles", no direct article. Long form "Republic of Seychelles". Here's their ministry of foreign affairs. --Brion 05:30 Sep 7, 2002 (UTC)

I think that, as with most archipelagos, common use is to add "the". As in "the government of the US Virgin Islands decided that.." or the "the team of the Maldives were defeated by.." etc. The official French name (French is spoken there) is also République des Seychelles, which I would also translate with Republic of the Seychelles... Anyway, it doesn't really matter, as long as the use is consistent. Jeronimo

Yes, and Canada is le Canada in French. On va au Canada. Voici le site web du gouvernement du Canada. But, we're speaking English here, and the official English name does not have an article, neither for Canada nor for Seychelles. Informal usage with "the" is not uncommon, but what can you do? --Brion

Yeah, the French always use articles for countries, I kinda forgot about that... But in English, it is also common to use articles for plurals: the United States, f.e. But if the official name appears to be without the, so be it. Jeronimo

The impression I get from looking through dictionaries is that if I'm talking about the islands, I can say "the Seychelles (islands)", but if I'm talking about the country (which of course covers the same ground, no?), I probably should prefer to say "Seychelles". Furthermore, I'm unsure about pronunciation... my tendency would be to say "the say-shells" but "say-shell" or "the say-shell islands", but this may just be me. In any case, the official name of the country, for good reason or not, is article-less and that's that. :) --Brion

So the pages should be without "the" in the title? --KQ 14:10 Sep 7, 2002 (UTC)

I say yes. If you're paranoid, make redirects that have "the" in em. --Brion 03:54 Sep 9, 2002 (UTC)

Fair enough. I'm doing this and then going to bed. --KQ 04:05 Sep 9, 2002 (UTC)

Is it worth pointing out that Seychelles (or "The" Seychelles, if you prefer) is one of the most corrupt countries in the world?

• • According to Transparency International Seychelles is ranked 55th cleanest country out of 158. And as 55 is closer to 1 than it is to 158 I disagree with your statement (though I do agree that there is some corruption and that it should be eliminated). RajivShah 18:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

I used to live in Seychelles and family living there, and we say Seychelles, The Seychelles and Seychelle Islands. Im not sure what the official line is, or if it is acceptable to use either. I agree that the redirects should be implemented. And yes, corruption has been a great problem since independance, although the official line says that all has been well hah... Marc

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[edit] Definite article

Is Seychelles plural? Seychelles or the Seychelles? — Instantnood 19:43, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Number of islands

The article says in the lead section that Seychelles is "a nation of 115 islands". In the "Geography" section, however, the count is "41 islands, of which 33 are inhabited." Would someone please edit the article to clear up this discrepancy? JamesMLane t c 14:52, 22 September 2006 (UTC)