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Clarification request: 'As may be noted from the name, sexually transmitted diseases are transmitted from one person to another by certain sexual activities rather than being actually caused by those sexual activities. Bacteria, fungi, protozoa or viruses are still the causative agents. It is not possible to catch any sexually transmitted disease from a sexual activity with a person who is not carrying a disease; conversely, a person who has an STD got it from contact (sexual or otherwise) with someone who had it, or his/her bodily fluids.'

So, would two virgins have 0 risk of recieving a disease from one another? That seems to be what this implies. Woudl that be an accurate statement?

Note: This is a non-categorised list of STDs extracted from the promiscuity article: please validate and sort. -

• AIDS -
• gonorrhoea -
• viral hepatitis -
• cervical cancer -
• genital herpes -
• chlamydia

Maybe a few of the above links could go back into the article: the ones actually about venereal diseases, that is. --Ed Poor

Is there a difference between the old "venereal" diseases and the newer term "Sexually transmitted diseases". All of the diseases on the list may be transmitted by sexual contact (or at least the virus that causes it for cervical cancer). However not all hepatitis and, I think, cervical cancer are caused by sexual transmission. How does the nomenclature work. Rmhermen 07:39 Aug 15, 2002 (PDT)

That's really two separate questions.

1. In the old days, when dinosaurs roamed the earth, there were venereal diseases: diseases primarily or commonly transmitted through sex. I don't know when or why they decided to start calling 'em "Sexually transmitted diseases". Maybe they got tired of the euphemism venereal. Or maybe they thought uneducated people wouldn't know what venereal means?
2. I think the article should have a list of STDs, possibly sorted in descending order of seriousness or frequency of transmittal.

--Ed Poor

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The pubic lice article says pubic lice are transmitted by sex, but the STD article labeled it under: "Not actually STDs but often considered as STDs". Is this general knowledge, or someone's POV, or a quibble on disease vs. parasite?

If you go to a doctor for help getting rid of a condition, can't you call it a "disease"? --Ed Poor

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I don't understand this statement in the article:

In the United States the best way to prevent STDs is through abstinence.

Why is the US different? Is the intended meaning "the US governement encourages abstinence over practice of safer sex"? -- Tarquin 18:42 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

I don't understand the whole paragraph. It should probably be moved to the talk page. --snoyes 18:46 Feb 22, 2003 (UTC)

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Does "STD" only go back to about 1990, and I only think it's older because I'm so young? --Calieber 21:11, Oct 27, 2003 (UTC)

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It seems to me that the title should not have a hyphen, and that "Sexually-transmitted disease" should redirect to it, rather than how it is now (where the correct form redirects to the incorrect form). Sexually is an adverb, and does not need a hyphen (as it would if the term were, say, sex-transmitted). --Max power 15:45, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

hear, hear. IIRC, it was that way before until someone "fixed" it. I don't recal lthe reason that was done. Can anyone expand on this? Alex.tan 16:04, 6 May 2004 (UTC)

Wrong, Max power, it's hyphenated because it's an adjectival phrase. "sex-transmitted" would never be a construction. Now, how about someone write about the origins of these diseases? I heard they were called STInfections now. lysdexia 04:31, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I'm afraid it is you who is mistaken, Lysdexia. Adjectival phrases (of two words, but a similar rule applies to longer phrases) are hyphenated when there is a possibility of that the first component could be taken to modify the noun to which the phrase applies rather than the second word of the phrase. For example, the sentence "The board criticized the slow acting director" is ambiguous, as "slow" could refer either to "acting" or to "director", as it is both an adverb and an adjective: are we talking about an acting director who is slow, or a director who is slow to act? If the latter is intended, we must hyphenate: "the slow-acting director". However, this rule applies ONLY when the first component could be read as modifying the noun, in other words, when it is, or could be taken to be, an adjective, as is the case for "slow" in my example. There is no possibility of confusion with most adverbs ending in -ly, and so hyphenation is redundant. (Remember that the purpose of punctuation is to clarify the sense, and no clarification is needed here.) "Sexually" is an adverb, not an adjective. The hyphen should therefore be removed from the page content and the redirect should be swapped round. — Paul G 17:06, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

_______________________________________________________________________ The US isn't different in it's methods of stopping/ preventing STDs, abstinence is a world-wide prevention of STDs. The US's methods aren't much different from those used in other countries, no matter what. Juicyboy 325.

Contents 1 Limerick thing 2 Hepatitis A 3 Pranksters Edit the Article 4 More Pranksters 5 STI's? When did this happen? 6 Requested move 7 transmissible vs. transmitted 8 Molluscum contagiousum 9 Hep C 10 List of STDs 11 Hepatitis D 12 Sexual acts with animals

[edit] Limerick thing

Does that limerick section belong at all? Seems irrelevant and silly to me. -Grick(^{talk to me!}) 04:42, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)

Yes, agree. That section on that limerick does not belong in this article. Removing. Alex.tan 07:54, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Can anyone help with a distinction betweem sexually transmitted and sexually transmissible, please? I was under the impression that they mean different things. A sexually transmitted infection is one that can only be caught throough sexual activity; a sexually transmissible infection is one that can be passed on through sexual contact but wasn't necessarily picked up via sexual activity. An example of this is Candidiasis.

Thanks

[edit] Hepatitis A

The article currently states that Hepatitis A is not transmitted sexually. However, people who engage in oral-anal contact can contract Hepatitis A. Would anybody be opposed if I change the hepatitis section to reflect the possibility of sexual transmission of Hep A? Calindigo

[edit] Pranksters Edit the Article

This article has been vandalized by someone, and a great deal of useful information has been replaced by crude humor. I have reverted the page to the last version without the altered text. However, I believe an administrator should restrict editing of the page in some manner so that this does not happen in the future.

[edit] More Pranksters

This is my first Wiki edit, so forgive me if I've made some sort of faux pas, but I removed the line "michael lichterman is the leading cause for STD's" which seemed to be a little short on scientific validity. I suppose if someone can prove that Michael Lichterman is the leading cause, it can go back up. Perhaps restricting the page would be a good idea.

[edit] STI's? When did this happen?

What the hell?! Is that actually what the medical establishment is calling it now? What kind of nimrods are they? How can you educate the public about the dangers of something if you keep changing its damned name? This is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. "STD" might be 0.001% less scientifically accurate than "STI" but it already has widespread recognition making it a useful piece of terminology for spreading information. The public awareness campaign can only be harmed by the confusion this sort of short-sighted meddling will produce. Someone explain to me why it should be changed on Wikipedia, and give a GOOD reason, not just "everyone else is doing it". Or does "no original research" mean that if the scientific establishment jumps off a cliff, we have to follow? -Kasreyn 06:33, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, my health teacher told us that "they" are calling them STIs now, so unless he got that from wikipedia, there is at least some merit behind this name change. however, someone still needs to change most of the references to STDs in the article to STIs. I would do it, but im not totally clear on the differentiation, because this article still treats STD as a legitimate term, just something different from STIs. so STDs became STIs, and now STDs refer to the diseases caused by those STIs? basically should we change all the "STD"s in this article to "STI"s? Bonus Onus 03:48, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

See, that's exactly what I'm talking about. Changing the name just because a nameless and unaccountable "they" are doing it also is not good policy for an encyclopedia. If no one can provide better reasoning or substantiation than that - such as, oh, say, guidelines from several major, legitimate health organizations providing reasoning for the change - then I'm reverting the article to STD's in the interests of avoiding unneccessary confusion. When people come to wikipedia to research STD's, they type in "STD" because that's what everyone in the english-speaking world calls them today. Why should they be confused to a redirect to "STI"? -Kasreyn 15:09, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

As to STI, my books (Mandell's Principles and Practices of Infection Diseases or this site, Cecil Textbook of Medicine, The Oxford Textbook of Medicine, Harrison's Principles of Internal Medicine, Intensive Care Medicine, The ICU Book) use STD. Clearly STI is an uncommon medical term. --Nomen Nescio 04:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

[edit] transmissible vs. transmitted

While a quick google seems to indicate that the term tranmsitted is overwhelmingly prefered (14,200,000) to the aletrantive transmissible (403,000), this neverthless belies the fact that the latter is in fact more accurate in as much as while such diseases 'can be transmiited by sexual contact, this is by no means the only means of transmission. as such i have edited the text accordingly. [[1]]

[edit] Molluscum contagiousum

Need to add this to the viral infections. Can appear similar to genital warts, but can occur almost anywhere on the body. Easily transmitted by skin contact. It's a raised red bump, that has a hard white core (aka mollusc). Can be effectively treated with Tea Tree Oil. Usually goes away by itself in a few months.

above posted by User:70.132.19.137 12:15, 2 April 2006

• Nonsense, firstly the condition is spelt Molluscum contagiosum, secondingly its NOT considered a "sexually transmitted disease". It occurs most commonly in young children, but can be spread between adults on skin-to-skin contact (i.e. no sex required - and is thus as much a STD as staph aureus in impetigo is not) "and has occurred in wrestlers, patients of a surgeon with a hand lesion" (read the eMedicine link on the MC article). David Ruben ^Talk 23:28, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hep C

This article contradicts Hepatitis C, which states that Hep C is not a STD. On Googling, there seems to be some debate about whether Hep C does actually have a significant risk of spread by sexual contact without blood exposure - see e.g.here[2]. Regardless of whether the answer is 'yes', 'no', or 'uncertain', these two articles should be consistent with one another. --Calair 02:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Hepatitis C is very rarely spread sexually. The best review is the CDC MMWR update on sexually transmitted diseases, which clearly says that sexual transmission of C is very rare. PMID 16888612 [3]. -- Samir धर्म 00:31, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] List of STDs

The list of STDs is garbage, and most of the items on the list lack sourcing as an STD. Please evaluate each name and remove names that are rarely sexually transmitted. JBKramer 11:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Hepatitis D

There is limited evidence on sexual transmission of Hepatitis D. The best study is from Hepatology in 1995: PMID 7489970: this is a study of 52 couples that are HBV and HDV coinfected and showed a likely common source of the HDV RNA in the majority of couples. However, the literature is scant, and more recent worldwide evidence tends toward HDV being spread by a number of mechanisms depending on age of acquisition (as with HBV) PMID 16896150, PMID 15481349, PMID 14708706. The CDC MMWR on treatment of STD's does not list HDV (although this is likely due to the low rate of HDV in the USA). My bias would be to list spread of HDV as indeterminate, and not to put it down as an STD given the evidence above -- Samir धर्म 00:51, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Sexual acts with animals

Although a small aspect of STD's, its not a trivial one. There should be a couple of lines on STD implications of sex with animals, for two reasons:

• There is significant practice of this act, and some diseases can be transmitted from animals to humans (although most human ones cannot; these tend to be animal infections humans can catch).
• In some parts of the world sex with animals is regularly used as a form of safer sex to avoid AIDS.

I don't regularly edit this article; could someone please review Health aspects of sexual acts with animals and HIV and AIDS misconceptions: Sexual intercourse with an animal will avoid or cure AIDS, and write a couple of lines with a "main article:..." link? In the meantime I've added a "see also" but I don't really think that's what's needed. Thanks. FT2 ^{(Talk | email)} 10:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• Article has moved back to original name --> Zoophilia and health Skoppensboer 15:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)