Talk:Seven Society
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It's not clear from the article what "UVA" actually is. I'm assuming it's a university, but which one? Joyous 16:00, Nov 27, 2004 (UTC)
- University of Virginia
According to Sandy Gilliam, Secretary of the Board of Visitors, the fact that RFK was a Seven is merely rumor. This information appeared in the Cavalier Daily 11/10/2005. I've made the change to the article. Basseq 16:11, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
[edit] William and Mary
William and Mary also has a Seven Society. Is it known if this is a simple impersonation or if the two are linked in any way?
On a hunch, I'd guess there's no connection. So much of the Sevens is specific to UVa (e.g. the chapel bells playing the Good Ol' Song upon a member's death, their UVa-focused recognitions/donations) that it doesn't seem logical/necessary for them to start a "W&M Branch." I suspect the W&M group was "inspired" by the Sevens at UVa. --EEMeltonIV 20:11, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Students
This article is listed under the student section of the general Secret Societies entry. I believe most people think the Seven Society is at the very least predominantly alumni/administrators/"adults". Is there any evidence that there are ANY students in the Seven Society?
- I wonder if the section is named well. Would 'Collegiate' be better? Tom Harrison Talk 13:58, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
Is there any evidence that there are NOT any students in the Seven Society?
It's speculative either way. I think the main reason people suspect a heavy, if not complete, alumni/administrative involvement is the sheer amount of money they dole out. But these are folks who don't realize that there are several other student groups on Grounds that spend as much as the Sevens seem to. Yes, these endowments often are sustained by alumni donations, but students cut the checks from the cash generated by the principal. --EEMeltonIV 13:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
- Whatever is asserted has to be supported by verifiable citation to a reliable source. Tom Harrison Talk 14:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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- Unfortunately, this being a secret society, there are no verifiable citations. Or at least very few. For example, we know for a fact that the chapel bell tolls seven times with a member of this society dies. (I've heard it.) From rumor, I know that there are seven undergraduate members of the seven society at any given time. Thus, when one graduates, a new member is induced to take his place. I have no citation for this. Basseq 17:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I guess you might write an article about what you know and get it published in a reliable source. Some things by their nature cannot be written about in Wikipedia. Secret societies may be one of them. Maybe there are other venues. Tom Harrison Talk 18:17, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
- I think Tom Harrison is taking the issue of quality in Wikipedia too seriously here and not grasping the concept that the Seven Society is an important part of tradition and experience at the University of Virginia. There are plenty of things that we do know about the society, it just seems that not many users have come out to add this information. There are many other pages that need serious quality upgrades - have you seen the dunkin donuts page about brazilians? travel forth away from here!User:Lindsayt930
