Talk:Set (game)

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Contents 1 Image 2 Variations 3 Tarendipitous's edits from article 4 20 card deal

[edit] Image

I'd like to get a picture of some Set cards here. I'm not well-versed in the copyright issues (with respect to Set Enterprises, or whoever holds the copyright, if any, on the cards' design) or in trademark issues (if, again, there's a trademark on the cards' design). Perhaps someone else, who has experience with pictures on Wikipedia (I have none) can deal with this. (Oh, how I love passing the buck.) —msh210 20:38, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

See, e.g., Image:RiskInPlay.jpg. This is a photo of a board game. The photographer released it under GFDL, but isn't the manufacturer's copyright an issue? Or its trademark? —msh210 20:49, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Very good pictures for this article are [1] and [2], but those also require copyright permission from the image-maker, I guess, no? Although, if we already must ask permission for using a picture of the cards, we may as well just ask for permission for using that picture of the cards. (Or just implicitly include both requests: "may we put on Wikipedia a copy of your /images/card.gif?". Hm?) —msh210 20:58, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Why not just take a screenshot of the computer game version, and add the picture to the article under fair use? Use the screenshot template, like so:

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I went ahead and added an image as per Wikipedia:Requested images before I noticed this talk page. The image is my own creation though it uses the Set designs, so I think it falls acceptably under fair use. —Miles (Talk) 00:48, Apr 24, 2005 (UTC)

next step on the image is to add perhaps 1-4 other variations of sets. the one pictured is a "good one" in set parlance, but to best communicate the notion of the game/article, we could perhaps add some more. e.g. three green solid triangles; 1/2/3 purple hollow/lined/shaded all-squigleys; 3/3/3 solid r/g/b. need at least 3 and better yet 6-12 types of examples to best convey the notion. -:)Ozzyslovechild 04:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Variations

I have heard of (and played) other variations of Set, but if they were merely inventions of my friends (or me), are they notable? For example, the memory variation mentioned in the article gave birth to a "Go Fish" game using Set cards: players fish for sets rather than pairs, and may ask other players for cards as specifically or as generally as they wish ("do you have any diamonds?" and "do you have any green solid diamonds?" are both legal requests). My guess is that Wikipedia is descriptive, not prescriptive, and unless it can be demonstrated that enough people play this variation to make it notable, it stays out of the article. Your advice is appreciated . -- Mitchell k dwyer 23:25, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I think the Go Fish version sounds pretty interesting. Do you know whether or not the other variations listed are that common? I had never heard of any of those. None of those are even listed at the setgame.com Other Rules site. I don't see why the Go Fish variation shouldn't be added to the article. --Paulie Peña 16:39, 21 May 2006 (UTC) P.S. For Memory Set, do you lay down all 81 cards or just 12? It seems like it would be hard to know when there are no more sets, if only three cards are turned up at a time.

[edit] Tarendipitous's edits from article

• (I do apologize for the problems with the syntax in this and the next item -- I can't figure out how to make it work. Someone please fix it! Thanks...) The number of distinct Sets in a complete deck of 81 Set cards is Failed to parse (PNG conversion failed; check for correct installation of latex, dvips, gs, and convert): \frac{81 \choose 2}{3}

. Tarendipitous 04:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

• When a complete deck of 81 Set cards is partitioned into two piles of size n and (81-n), the sum of the number of Sets that can be made using only cards in the first pile and the number of Sets that can be made using only cards in the second pile is given by Failed to parse (unknown error): {\frac{81 \choose 2}{3} - (\frac{n \times (n-1)}{2})

. Tarendipitous 04:15, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] 20 card deal

is there some reason why the 'mathematics of set' section gives the probability of any one 20 card deal? not only is this quite trivial, it's also strange to use that number when in the usual set game, 12 cards are dealt at once. i can change this to 12 or remove it, unless anyone feels strongly. Via strass 19:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)