Talk:Sergeant Stubby
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[edit] Breeds like Stubby are now banned in Denver, CO.
It's amazing how times have changed since Stubby was honored in WWI. In 1989, the Denver, CO City Council passed a resolution banning these types of dogs from the entire city and county of Denver.
Though this Wikipedia article doesn't say that Stubby is a "Pit Bull", the laws of Denver and many other cities would include Stubby in their breed specific ban only because of his physical characteristics without regard to his temperament or military status. According to the City and County of Denver, Colorado, a pit bull is defined in the ordinance as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one or more of these breeds. If Stubby were caught by Denver city or county goverment officials today, he would be put to death.
Denver's pit bull law prohibits any person from owning, possessing, keeping, exercising control over, maintaining, harboring, or selling a pit bull in the City and County of Denver. The misdemeanor penalty for owners harboring an illegal pit bull is a fine of up to $1,000 and a year in jail.
In 2004, Colorado Governor Bill Owens signed a bill prohibiting local governments from regulating a specific breed - which applied to pit bulls, although technically they are not a single breed. Denver suspended enforcement of its ban, but successfully challenged the state law and resumed enforcement of the ban in May of 2005.
The Humane Society of the United States opposes breed-specific bans such as Denver's because the organization says many factors, including how the dogs are treated, determines violence.
According to figures from the American Temperament Testing Society, a national nonprofit organization that promotes uniform temperament evaluations of dogs, the American pit-bull terrier passed its evaluations 83.4 percent of the time, just behind the golden retriever at 83.6.
Between May 9 and June 17 of 2005 more than 150 pit bulls and dogs with pit bull characteristics were put to death by order of Denver city and county government officials. --mtnkjn 16:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Pit bulls are banned in the entire province of Ontario now, I do believe. - Lucky13pjn 07:39, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Poor pit bulls
Those poor pit bulls. Stubby looks so cute. This is a very adorable article. Any dog could be sweet or vicious depending how they are raised, so I guess I oppose a breed-specific ban too. It doesn't make sense. It would seem to only have PR benefits. Astrophil 17:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Military service
Interesting story, but when and how was Stubby promoted to sergeant? (Who gave him the stripes? was it an honourary title, or did someone actually file the paperwork?). Just curious. Rod ESQ 17:17, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
I would have to do some more research, but as I recall the Marines gave him an honorary rank of sergeant, and then he was actually promoted by the Army and the paperwork was filed. I had to use the name "Sergeant Stubby", as "Stubby" was too vauge, and there were other entries with that name. Jai Raj
[edit] Georgetown
Interesting article. I do have a problem, however, with the sentence "Stubby attended Georgetown". Isn't it better to say "While John Robert Conroy attended Georgetown, Stubby was named mascot..." J. Van Meter 19:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Circa birthdate
For Stubby to be several weeks old in 1917 could possibly indicate that he was born in late 1916. Unless a source can verify his actual birth-year of 1917, then it must be indicated as (c. 1917–1926) instead of just (1917–1926). However, in this source from the external links, it states, "Stubby was a mixed-breed mongrel, at least part Boston terrier, whose story began in 1916 at the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Conn." So, what's the birth-year: 1916, c. 1916, or 1917? According to this source, it is simply 1916. —№tǒŖïøŭş4lĭfė ♫♪ 03:19, 6 June 2006 (UTC)