Talk:Seras Victoria

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Contents 1 Age 2 Powers 3 Difference in anime/manga colours 4 Pip's fate 5 Victoria's Name 6 Image

[edit] Age

Any offical word on her age? If so it should be included here.

[edit] Powers

Just wanted to mention that AFTER she drank the blood of Pip she became a full vampire rather then the half vampire that she was before.

Half vampire (although used by the author to describe Seras) is a little misleading, considering she is quite different from typical fictional half vampires, Dhampir, like Blade (From the blade movies and comics) or "D" (from Vampire Hunter D).

[edit] Difference in anime/manga colours

Id just like to see that theres agreement: In the anime Seras had blue eyes for the first episode and red eyes after she was biten, after which they were red, and her Hellsing uniform was blue. In the manga she wore a yellow/tan uniform and kept her blue eyes until she took Pip's blood, at which point her eyes went red, and she was able to change her form and turn her uniform dark red and her hair almost white. The anime colours are probably based on confusion since Kohta's work is so rarely coloured, though there is a manga volume cover with her in a yellow uniform with blue eyes, and the new statue and a cover of YKO suggest the post-transformation colours.

I was at the panel that featured Hirano at 2005 Anime Expo in Anahiem. I asked him about the color difference in Seras' uniform. According to Hirano, they changed Seras' uniform to blue for the anime because they were worried about how bright yellow would show up on television screens. The color wouldn't contrast properly. I don't fully understand how this could be an issue, but that's he said. I'm saying this here because I can't prove it.

Its prety clear at this point, now that the first two OVAs are done, that her eyes turn red when she "goes bezerk" and lets lose her violent tendancies. I would assume that they are permently red when she becomes a full vampire in volume 7 of the manga.

[edit] Pip's fate

It doesnt seem likely he could be a vampire, since he professed to sleeping with prostitutes, and not being a virgin he would turn into a ghoul, a fate she would likely wish to spare him.

Hellsing seems to have pretty random vampiric origins. Spoiler Warning In the latest chapter, 70 Castlevania, Alucards identity as Vlad Tepes is cemented. Considering Vlad was married and had children, it's certain that Alucard was no virgin. In my opinion, Hirano is done with Pip. He's completely dead, and exists only inside Seras (to what degree, I don't know). However, my point is that Pip's fate is really up in the air, as the virgin clause seems to have only ever applied to Seras herself. Considering the evidence from the manga, anything is possible.

True, Pip died before Seras fed off him anyway, bloodloss of any sort isn't going to make any difference to the fact that he's dead. I think that through blood they bind the soul to the vampire, and since Pip's soul left his body, hemay be with Seras in a spiritual sense, but that's as close as it gets. Also, Hirano stated quite plainly that he was expecting to kill Pip off sooner. So I imagine he is not going to make a reappearance.

Sam 12:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Victoria's Name

First off, let me say that it would seem so far the official Romanization of her name is "Seras Victoria", and I'm not looking to change that, but rather to give some food for thought, for as we have seen in the past, "official" does not necessarily mean "correct" ("Ling-Ling" ans "Lung-Lung", anyone?). Looking at the series, it seems more to me that "Victoria" is supposed to be her first name. Use of the term "Miss Victoria" seems to suggest this, as British customs often have young unmarried women referred to as "Miss {first name}" (take the original Dracula novel by Bram Stoker, whose characters often refer to Mina (before marriage) and Lucy as "Miss Mina" and "Miss Lucy"). This leaves a last name of "Seres/Celes/Ceras", none of which are very British, but there is one name that *is* a common British surname, and could become "Seras" for Japanese audiences... "SELLERS". Could it be maybe that her name is intended to be "Victoria Sellers"? Like I said, just some food for thought. (EmiOfBrie 18:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC))

If what you say is true, then the katakana should not be SERASU, but SERESU or even SERA-SU, but it's not so your point of view can in no way be correct. Myself, I have always preferred a version I saw in a FanSub that called her "Celas". Helios 23:13, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

This is more to do with her surname than her first, but I want to point out that while 'Victoria' is a popular first name, there are individuals with possible first names for surnames and vice-versa. I remember an ad for Parker Lewis can't lose pointed out that his name sounds like it's backwards.

• As long as we're speculating randomly (and we are, don't kid yourselves), I might as well throw in that 'Seras' is a corruption of 'Sears,' as was pointed out to me by the spell checker in MS Word. -Litefantastic 18:46, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

You might be right, but I was watching Watchdog a few weeks ago and one woman, a Spanish secretary, had the first name of Sera. Not only is Será the third person singular of ser in the future tense (Spanish for 'to be') but I have just looked it up and Sera is a Latin name meaning 'Heavenly/winged angel' the fact that Seras can use darkness to create wings might have something to do with that.

I think I've got it, following my note on the Spanish I remembered that Victoria comes from Victory, and I looked up 'Victoria' in a Spanish-English dictionary and 'Victoria' is Spanish for 'Victory' so her name in Spanish literally means 'You will be Victory'. Then again, it might be coincidence and I might just be rambling, I don't know.

Sam 13:33, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

That's a pretty interesting theory. I speak spanish and that's a quite valid sentence, Serás Victoria (you will be victory). Although Serás Victoriosa (you will be victorious) would make more sense, it would be less name-like. Helios 23:19, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

The reason it came to mind was when watching the first OVA there seemed to be a stress on the A when Seras's name was spoken, if you watch the scene just before Integra appears in Badrick it sounds clearest in Alucard's voice. Sam 11:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC) Following my last note I found a clip from the Digest for Freaks on Youtube that has what I mentioned. [[1]]

You think we should put this in the article? It seems relevent: "Seras Victoria (Lit. "You will be victory," in Spanish)"? -Litefantastic 20:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

Never the less, Seras is a Spanish last name. My ex girlfriend had the same name and was Spanish. --Bvman 20:31, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

Good point, but I was looking through the volumes before I left for uni and I noticed something. Seras has yet to technically lose a battle. The closest thing was in Badrick when Integra intervened before Anderson attempted to kill her. As for the article note, Hirano has not confirmed it, so it should be more like: 'However, it is possible that Seras's name is in fact Spanish, as Serás Victoria translates literally to 'You will be Victory, however, I think it would be safer to double check by accessing a Spanish Translation to see if they picked that up.

Sam 21:59, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

Bvman, you are right. Seras is a Spanish last name. I looked it up in an on-line phone book and it appeared 54 times. No wonder I had never heard it in my life. I also searched "Celas" and it appeared as well, though only 20 times. It also is a last name. Now, I also looked it up in an English phone book and got 0 hits, interestingly. The question would be "Where did Hirano heard this name?" And "Why did he chose it?", since it doesn't seem to be English and, to be honest, sounds a little off in this context. The same for Yumiko. The fact that she never lost a fight it's somewhat trivial. Besides, to be victorious means to actually win, and in Badrick she was rescued by Integra and Alucard, rather than winning by herself. I propose that, now that we have solved this problem, we agree that her name is ambigous and move on to diffent subjects, such as the order of her name, starting from the fact that her mother called her "Seras" which, if it really is her last name, would be a very unusual practice; even in japanese culture, which is highly polite and respectful. Helios 21:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Image

I was thinking of changing her image in the article. Please give me your opinions. Helios 12:34, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

The current picture is a little silly, I'd like to see something different used.

I agree. The manga picture is nice, but I'd like to see one from either the TV or the OVA. I got three OVA pics but don't know how to add them to this page... and I'm still a bit chicken to try for fear of ruining the article. BiggKwell 02:56, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

What do you think of this one? I managed to erase Integra from the background. It's quite a master piece, isn't it? It took a lot of efford. Helios 20:40, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

That is really well done. I think it should stay, it's one of the best pictures of Seras in the manga. Schrödinger 21:46, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, thank you. Yes, I'm very proud of it. Helios 11:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

The picture could be a spoiler though.

I don't think it's very obvious... I know I wouldn't have had a clue. Thank you Helios for changing that other picture, the new one looks much better! -- itistoday (Talk) 17:39, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks to you, I was feeling a little low, but your comment raised my spirit and now I feel better. Thanks. It's good to have some recognition once in a while.Helios 18:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)