Talk:Seizure

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There is a question whether "temporal lobe epilepsy" (the more common term these days is "partial complex") is actually overdiagnosed in surrealists and individuals sympathetic to surrealism who are self-consciously attempting to practice surrealist theory, particularly as regards the interictal aspects of TLE (though the notion of an "interictal personality" has come under some question). The practice of automatism, for instance, tends by its nature to result in hypergraphia, and, moreover, the founder of surrealism, Andre Breton, wrote that "here as elsewhere, quality becomes a function of quantity" and "there is no subject upon which one should refuse to speak and write voluminously."

Daniel C. Boyer

Added external link to my article on temporal-lobe epilepsy and surrealism in Brand X.

Daniel C. Boyer

Mention of automatisms in particular should bring up question about existence of the Pre-automatic dictatorship. --Daniel C. Boyer

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[edit] Grand mal/petit mal

I noticed that petit mal seizure has its own article, and assumed that the link provided at the bottom there for grand mal seizure meant that the latter also has a seperate article. Oops. siafu 18:36, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Perhaps petit mal seizure should be merged here. JFW | T@lk 18:45, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
The terms petit mal and grand mal (as well as a few others) have fallen into disuse. The accepted medical phrasiology is used almost exclusively now. The seizure types article goes into detail about this. sinewaveTalk   23:10, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Management

I've largely replaced the text here. The phrase "semi supine position" is probably unintelligable to 99% of the population and the recovery position is well known and recommended. In addition, the advice to "apply strong upward pression on the chin" goes against recommended treatment and is potentially dangerous. Finally, the need to call paramedics is overstated, causing additional embarrasment to those with epilepsy who have a typical seizure.

I am aware the Wikipedia is not a First Aid Manual. However, removing this section will merely perpetuate the ignorance of the general public in treating seizures. The section "Responding to a seizure" in epilepsy covers similar ground. IMO, the focus of the two articles is not currently well defined, with the epilepsy article covering much that should be in the seizure article. --Colin Harkness 21:20, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure, but I heard of a treatment in psychology class where there was some kind of left-brain right-brain ectomy to stop some kind of seizure. I'm not familiar with the term, but it involved cutting the connections that where between the left and right brain. Just wondering if anyone knew the info. I'll look through my old notes just to make sure I'm simply remembering something else from psych.

Have a look at epilepsy – surgical treatment. You are probably thinking of callosotomy --Colin Harkness 09:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seizure response dog

I think the bit at the end about animals sensing seizures before they happen is at best controversial. -paul 22/4/06

It is extremely controversial and actually ridiculous. -Rob 30 May 06

Agreed: unnecessary, bordering on ridiculous. Preacherdoc 21:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)Preacherdoc

Well, have a look at seizure response dog, follow the links/references. (Note: I have modified this article since the above comments were made) Colin Harkness°Talk 22:12, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

The first aid treatment for sezure is don't touch or press the patient, don't put any thing into the patient's mouth and remove all dangerous stuff away from the patient. When the patient finished with the fit, put the patient into a recovery position, by put one hand under the patient's head and another hand acroos over the body,the led of the side that the arm across over also across the body so that the patient will have a good airway and won't roll around, if the patient is unconscious. Then call the ambulance if there's injuries to the patient or the fit lasted for more than 5 minutes or another fit start. Fist aider of St. John Ambulance

[edit] Types

The terms here are out-of-date. Phrases such as "petit-mal" and "grand-mal" were consigned to the medical history books long ago. The International League Against Epilepsy have classified seizures and defined the terms used by doctors today. This section would be much improved if it was more complete and used the modern terms. There is duplication here with the epilepsy article section "Types of Seizures". I think the section belongs here and the epilepsy article should concentrate on seizure disorders, associated diseases and chronic management of the condition. --Colin Harkness 21:20, 16 September 2005 (UTC)

Agree 100%. Epilepsy classification by etiology and syndrome; seizure classification by clinical semiology; up-to-date ILAE terminology in either case; with 'grand mal' and 'petit mal' defined for historical reasons. I'll undertake to do this sometime when I have 4 or 5 hours free unless there are further objections. -Ikkyu2 21:36, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

Please do so, Ikkyu2. I think you're qualified enough for that monumental task. References especially welcome. JFW | T@lk 21:52, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

I have removed the parenthetical references to grand mal and petit mal throughout. I included a brief statement about them falling into disuse after 1970, and encouraged readers to visit the Seizure types main article for details. FractureTalk   08:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Seizures Hints

Sorry to be an uninformed person here, but can anyone exactly say what a seizure is. I had some in 2004 so I really still do not understand any of the information provided. Send the info to my chat box if anyone knows it. Is it a cause in a person's attitude, a change of mentallity, a sexual thing that occurs from certain sensations, or a taste of liquids?--Zhang Liao 06:42, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] engine seizure

In a seizure, the pistons expand from too much heat, become too big for the walls of the cylinders, seize them, melt to them sometimes, and lock the engine and rear wheel and start the whole cycle into a skid. -- Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

I didn't see a place to put this, so I'm going to put it here. Maybe there will be a disambiguation page created one day. -- Sy / (talk) 17:25, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

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